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hedgehog1979 · 04/01/2009 10:22

Bit bored so thought I would start the new thread

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Rolf · 09/01/2009 12:01

I didn't realise the word "mush" was derogatory. Sorry if I offended anyone.

Over breakfast this morning we were playing the Alphabet Game with imaginary cereals (Acorn porridge, Banana flakes etc) and when we got to U DS2 suggested Uranus Pops . He said it innocently but my dirty mind has had me sniggering all morning.

Essie3 · 09/01/2009 12:04

I think Iestyn had an Uranus Pop this morning...

josey · 09/01/2009 12:05

Josey storms on to the post to hopefully make some of you feel better!

There is NO right and wrong on how to feed your baby....what is Right for You and Your baby is what is best.....and dont let some book or jumped up faceless made up name on any of these Bloody threads make you feel like sh**. You are your childs mother and you do what is best for your child which will always make you a better mother not doing what some latest trend insists on!

Did no-one see the News yesterday about how mothers need to go back to being mothers and not book twitching insecure mouses that are too terrified to do anything for there own kids.

Josey is very bossy today and says BRING BACK MOTHER POWER and hold on to your bras dont burn them or your tits will hit the floor

AH is doing well settling in still no Fn internet as I was told on last update

Ok I shall skuttle away and wait for my head to be shoved in the docks

Rolf · 09/01/2009 12:05

Hope babypearls and Iestyn are feeling better soon.

Sponge your friend has got the measure of my approach to weaning! Like "here you are, pet, have a suck on my apple core"

josey · 09/01/2009 12:09

Oh as for temps Kick your dock up the bum, 102 can be usually sorted with cool bath calpol etc...but very high temps can cause seizures in babies and the likes of the temp oli had is usually coma inducing....so if calpol and colling doing work and temp still rising get seen again!

Amberc · 09/01/2009 12:16

sponge - yes do send me the details and I will look on t'interweb

neenztwinz · 09/01/2009 12:47

Essie, you are exactly where I was six weeks ago. IIRC I had a mini rant about BLW then too. But I am over it now - and you will too when Iestyn starts to eat more (fingers crossed) and starts loving the food you give him (which he will). And when he starts to sleep! Then you will not care what anyone else is doing because what you are doing works for you. And yes the whole thing has made me empathise a whole lot more with Sponge and others who feel like second class citizens on MN cos they don't BF.

I have to admit I laughed (in a good way) at your post and I am just so glad you felt able to come out and say you were p*ssed off! Well done you.

BTW I think maybe some people call it mush cos they like you feel they are doing something wrong (which they are not) so make a joke of it.

LOL at BLW being for lazy arses!

Amber, I totally understand. I hope I didn't come across like I was saying 'why don't you like being at home, it's great!' cos I wasn't at all. I was just interested. I know I am very lucky to have so many people around even if my mum is 55 miles away (not too far but it is a day trip). I really for you not having your parents any more. I know that must be really tough to deal with.

Go Josey! I agree with it all. And yes Purees if you are still worried just go back or go to A&E - you know your babv best.

Well the DTs lasted till about 10.45am without a nap but then went down for 15 mins, then I gave them lunch at 11.30 in case they got too tired to eat but they ate loads (chicken for the first time - pureed of course!). Theo was ready for his lunch nap by 12 so he has gone down and I've not heard a peep. Esther is still sat here playing and doesn't show any signs of being ready for her lunch nap . She is going down at 1 whether she likes it or not.

I have done most of the ironing and I am having lunch which is why I am on MN .

Upsidedowncake · 09/01/2009 13:32

Sponge, Essie, Neenz, phew, thank you for airing the BLW elephant on the thread. (Now the elephant would take some getting into your mouth, wouldn't it?) I'm so relieved; I'd become a bit too scared by it all - and as you all know, I'm the Gina Ford addict ...

Essie, sorry that we didn't speak again yesterday. Dorothy's tum only matured on her six-month birthday (had been throwing up and sometimes gagging, yet HV had insisted I give her solids because she was so thin). I also know another baby who wouldn't eat until she was eight months. It's very stressful. I am paranoid about D's weight and sleep now. But IMO, both Iestyn and D look great. They wouldn't be growing lengthwise and rolling etc if they weren't healthy.

whinegums · 09/01/2009 13:33

What Josey said! I am doing what I think is best for my baby. Quite honestly the little monkey is a bloody mystery to me, so I'm muddling through as best as I can. He seems to be mostly happy and healthy, and I am mostly happy and sort of healthy too, so that works for me. Although, Neenz, can I send him on his holidays to you and you can work your magic on his sleep...??!!

Rolf · 09/01/2009 13:43

wot josey said!

Upsidedowncake · 09/01/2009 14:07

Ditto

poppy34 · 09/01/2009 14:33

just marking my space and standing in awe of super josey

neenztwinz · 09/01/2009 14:45

Whinegums, course you can, as long as I can send the DTs the other way

poppy34 · 09/01/2009 14:47

just reading through the moldies thread..it beggars belief that some people think this is adult (although was heartened by some responses that shows people who have posted good stuff in past for me are actually ok).

pleasechange · 09/01/2009 15:08

Re. weaning - I don't really fit into any camp. Alexander is having porridge & puree for breakfast, but for lunch and dinner will have whatever I'm having. Though I have actually changed what I eat to suit him. It's not necessarily finger food, but he can feed himself with a spoon. And sometimes I pick the food up for him and hold it to his mouth if he's having trouble picking it up.

I guess it all just goes to prove that we do what we think is right. As long as A is getting some food down him and it's healthy, I'm not too bothered how I'm doing it.

Can I just ask your opinion on something? - I had an update with my manager a couple of months ago and mentioned I would like to make a flexible working request. She said to let her know nearer the time (I'm going back to work in Feb). I wrote a letter in December detailing the changes I'd like to request (these are of a temporary rather than permanent nature, and per the company policy, these can be arranged informally through management).

I contacted my manager yesterday to ask if she had had a chance to review the request (1 month has passed) and she said she'd like to meet me to discuss. Problem is I cannot arrange childcare (I have no family nearby and DH can't get time off work). TBH I don't really want to spend a precious half day of my remaining mat leave getting A and I into town for this. Is it acceptable do you think for me to ask if we can discuss over the phone rather than in person?

whinegums · 09/01/2009 15:24

Oh booo Neenz!

Allnew - I don't know what your manager is like or whether she is going to be amenable to your request, but maybe you could ask her to come to you instead? If you don't want the meeting in your home, is there a cafe near you you could meet? You might need to give a bit in order to get what you want? Alternatively, you could suggest it as a 'keeping in touch day' in which case you would be paid for it?

bitofadramaqueen · 09/01/2009 15:43

allnew what whinegums said really. An enlightened HR person (like myself ) would absolutely encourage your manager to come visit you or meet somewhere a bit more neutral. I would encourage you to meet your manager face to face as its usually more constructive. That said, if it was impossible to arrange they should be able to discuss over the phone.

On feeding, I think I've said previously that I dont have really strong opinions on any method, I do what suits us and each to their own. And I still think that . Sorry some posts have upset you though Essie.

Yuk, S has just thrown up over me. Nice, got to go!

Amberc · 09/01/2009 16:32

After all the weaning posts about what people do with their LOs I hope I am not the only one whose baby is not opening their mouths and 'loving' what they are given as i still have to shovel spoons into Luke when he opens his mouth for something else! He certainly is not loving any of it BLW or puree and would live on milk forever if he could! Any tips?

FiveGoMadInDorset · 09/01/2009 16:34

You and me both Amber

needahand · 09/01/2009 16:42

haven't read the whole thread yet so am just replying to allnew

Re eczema have you tried that potion I recommended the otherday. It is a salve called purepotions and works wonders.

Re work it is normal to have cold feed. IT was so hard when I had to go back to work that I asked if I could start for a month and a half on four days a week which makes thing much easier. I still miss SJ a lot but at the end of the day I suppose it is good for them to develop their own social life. Once you are at work you will be fine though

neenztwinz · 09/01/2009 17:21

Amber, I still somtimes have to shove food in when the DTs have their mouths open for something else (a bit of toast or their own spoon). They are better now but at first they were very hit and miss and sometimes wouldn't eat anything. Just give it a few more weeks cos the difference with the DTs now at 8mo to what they were a few weeks ago is immense. They seem to have grown up so much in such a short period of time!

FiveGoMadInDorset · 09/01/2009 17:36

Do any of you lovely ladies, live near a Gap or pass one on your days shopping? If so could I be very cheeky, S needs some bbigger socks and Gap ones stay on and are warm, problem is my nearest one is over an hour away.

poppy34 · 09/01/2009 17:40

no tips but sympathy 5gomad and amber - I joke re chav food but that is basically what I can get her to take on a good day and it takes a good deal of cojoling (plus me opening and shutting to do it)... no real advice but sympathy.

I'm can pick up your socks next week if that is any good to you 5 but have found sainsburys ones are pretty sticky too...

hedgehog1979 · 09/01/2009 18:23

essie sorry if I have been the one to upset you. It was not intentional, but I have been known to be fairly stubborn and obtuse sometimes.

josey I am with you 100%, I have had so much crap from NCT 'friends' about the way I am choosing to bring up my baby

allnew when I have had any back to work meetings I have taken Isaac with me and if he has been asleep has come into the meeting with me, If he has been awake has been left with one of the other girls to look after.

neenz if you have finished your ironing, do you want to come and have a go at mine??
And I definitely agree that BLW is for lazy arses.

Have had a lovely day here. Our new library opened just before christmas, when I was away and today was my first time there. It even has a coffee shop, which means no more feeding in the childrens library (and enduring the stares of children!!) We have then spent the afternoon snuggled up in bed, watching Cbeebies (i love it)

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poppy34 · 09/01/2009 18:51

essie dh sends his sympathy - dss was v.like iestyn and they had a nightmare too with him dropping down the centiles.. it did end cos as neenz said they do eat eventually....but was based on doing what what he'd take (as I understand it large quantities of macdonalds chocolate milk shake - I dread to think what the blw diehards would make of that on the other thread...)