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Oct 2007: This little piggie ate lots of Christmas turkey.... all by themselves!

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alicet · 17/11/2008 21:54

Thought this was appropriate given latest discussion and thought I would start a new thread before this expires!!!!

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Stefka · 07/12/2008 20:44

Ah I need to think of a good christmas name now! Loving all of yours.

Party was grim!! Wish you could have seen it just to know how horrif it was. SIL's DD was dressed up like a flower girl. She looked so uncomfortable and couldn't even crawl in it. Not that she got the chance as she was always being held either by her mum or by her gran (mum's side). My mum who is also a gran did not get near the girl all day but when her mum arrived it was straight over to 'grandma'. My mum was upset because sil didn't even respond to her gift - it was a simple one because my mum has no money and she just put it to the side and didn't even say thankyou. She had my brother's fiance in tears too because of how rude she was. Mainly SIL and her dd spent most of the time in the kitchen with her family and the rest of us were in the living room. It was really uncomfortable and I am so glad it is over!

Dareh is not well after his jabs. He has a lump in his glands and has been very upset. I hope it gets better soon for him.

Off to think of xmas names.

WinnieThePooh · 07/12/2008 20:54

WWAJC - thank you so much for your offer of help on CTF.

Will email you now.

We bought Shula her 1st pair of proper shoes yesterday. she has been walking for ages, but her feet were not big enough to get walkers and I refused to buy cruisers. Her left foot is a size 3 and her right is still 2.5. She loves walking around in her new pink shoes with flashing heels.

J20- Rich sound fantastic

Stefka - Sorry about the job, I hope ou find something soon.

Loving all the Christmas names, can you think of one for me please

LisaStockingLessLumpy · 07/12/2008 21:04

Inzi - I was thinking of changing my name again for the New Year anyway, god knows what to though Probably need to keep Lisa in it somewhere though so people know it is still me

HeinzSight · 07/12/2008 21:16

Hi all, sorry for lack of posting. Been a bit preoccupied and trying to recover from my shock discovery that I'm pregnant...

oops.

alicet · 07/12/2008 21:36

Heinz!!!! Congratulations!!! I take it this wasn't exactly planned? When are you due?

J2O hadn't guessed it was you - really sorry that you have been going through this. Think it would be worth some counselling. Fingers crossed you find a way to deal with all of this.

Need to think of a Christmas name for me too...

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alicet · 07/12/2008 21:37

Oh thanks for ll your comments about Adam. Reassuring to hear the rest of you are having similar issues - didn't have this with Sam at all. He has been better the last couple of days so finers crossed it was just worse with his teething...

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HeinzSight · 07/12/2008 21:45

no not planned I can't believe it, am in so much shock. It'll be due mid August.

TLESinChristmasStockings · 07/12/2008 21:51

crochetdiva

lets see xmas names for you...

CrochetDivaMadeTheElvesNewHats

crochetdivaRanOffWithSanta

crochetdivaMadeLotsOfXmasC akes

crochetdivaGotTipsyForXmas

crochetdivaIsUnderTheMistletoe

crochetdivaSawSantaKissingSo meoneAndToldHisWife

crochetdivaHadLotsOfMincePies

crochetdivaWoreTinselInHerHair

crochetdiv aWasMrsClausLastYear

crochetdivaMadeTheReindeerScarves

alicet · 07/12/2008 22:19

Heinz I am sure it will take you a while to get used to the idea (it certainly would me!!) but it will be lovely for your dd to have a sibling so close when your other 2 are so much older. My 2 boys are 20 months apart. It has been f*cking hard at times but watching them play together makes it all worth it and I am sure that when they are both a little bit older the fact that they have each other will make life easier for us (OK so I know when they fight it will make it more than twice as hard but here's hoping that won't happen too often )

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AndADalrympsInAPearTree · 08/12/2008 00:25

Hey eveyone,

Heinz - ! Congratulations, i'm sure you're understandibly shocked at the moment but i'm a great believer that everything happens for a reason. I hope I will be pg at the same time as you . How did you find out? What made you suspect?

I've written all my christmas cards today and we've just finished putting the tree up and decorating the lounge. It's all cosy and christmassy now

Stefka - Your SILS party sounds, well, as expected , she really does sound like a bit of a madam. Ah well, at least it's over now

Hi to everyone else, lovong the xmas names ladies. Keep trying to think of one for LLL and crochet, will be back if I come up with anything!

Off to bed now so chat soon x

LisaStockingLessLumpy · 08/12/2008 10:01

blimey Heinz, I'm shocked for you but many congratulations WOW 4 kids, blimey!!!

deckthehallswithINZIsholly · 08/12/2008 10:24

HI all

HEINZ!!!!!! !!!!!

Although we were TTC its on hold just now until I find out whats happening with knee op, I have also put on 1/2stone since coming back from holiday so would like to at least lose that first. I was due AF last week.....but I am sure its late due to first month of pill

Stefka, I would of had to accedintaly trip up and chuck my drink all over her, she sounds so horrible

LES you need to think of xmas names for everyone, your great at it, I am rubbish...no imagination

We have had a couple of nights good sleep after I decided enough was enough and have now started closing Jane's bedroom door...I cant hear the grumbles and moans but can hear if she has a full on cry. Its bliss, I think she is just a noisy sleeper. She is also down to 1 nap a day which I think is making her sleep deeper. Instead of her morning nap I give her chill out time on the couch with teddy and dummy watching teletubbies (BAD MUMMY!!!) it gives me time as well while she relaxes a bit. She then has an hour-hour and a half at 1.30-2pm. OH crap she just pulled her socks of and punched herself in the face...must go

XX

HeinzSight · 08/12/2008 10:39

oh inzi test please, come and join me!

FLORIAinexcelsisdeo · 08/12/2008 10:40

Not time today again but had to post to say HEINZ; WOW!!!!! Congratulations! I'm not surprised that you are shocked if it wasnt planned but how wonderful!!!!

TLESinChristmasStockings · 08/12/2008 10:41

lol Inzi,
I will get on the case lol

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 08/12/2008 10:59

Hi all!!!

J20 - Sorry it was you (sorry it was anyone of us xx) Richie seems fab though.

Heinz - wow!!! Congrats xxx

Floria - love the inexcelisdeo name x

Well dh and mil had a barny last night whilst i was in bed with a migraine (they're coming thick and fast at the mo) she says that she can't cope with the dogs as well as the boys for 4 days. We had said don't worry about walking them they'll be fine for 4 days. They have had them loads and Dex even stayed for a few months when we first had Ollie so it's not like they have never had them. Dh got upset as that means we can;t go away for 2 nights and then MIL siad that he was being unreasonable for asking. Dh then said the one time we ask them to help, they say yes, then no then tell us we're being unreasonable for asking. They last saw the children in may and have done nothing since.
MIL aslo said 'and Emma didn't speak to me for 7 months....' (what the heck has that got to do with us asking them to have the doigs?????)

AAARRRGGHGGGGGG

I have written an email but haven't sent it yet. I'll bore you all with it later if that's okay xxx

HeinzSight · 08/12/2008 11:35

meant to say alicet, thank you for your post, that's exactly the sort of thing I need to hear. I'm in turmoil at the moment!

FLORIAinexcelsisdeo · 08/12/2008 11:43

Muppet;sorry your having another 'mad mil strikes again' episode...So not having the dogs hasn't anything to do with not being able to manage but everything to do with punishing you for not speaking to her? ....even more sorry you are suffering from so many migraines....on the bright side at least it is dh that she is having the row with, not you this time. I'd offer to have the dogs for you but Thane is being overly macho at the moment so I dont think it would worksorry. Does this mean you wont be coming to Manchester?

Stefka · 08/12/2008 11:58

Congratulations Heinz!!!

My DH and I have decided that we want to start trying for another. I still haven't had my period yet though.

Muppet sorry the mil is being so difficult. She shouldn't have said yes in the first place if she was going to be like that.

Got to go back up home next weekend for my other brother's ds's first birthday. His partner is in a state about it poor thing. She finds the sil really intimidating. The weird thing is she isn't nasty but she has no tact and doesn't seem to notice when she buldozes over people's feelings. I am thinking about having a word with her to say that brother's partner is really nervous. Not letting her know that it is because of her but just in general, in the hope that she might be more sensitive next weekend at the party.

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 08/12/2008 12:07

Flori - I've spoken to dog sitting people this morning (they walk Stan + Dex for me to help me out) and they can do it. I'm happy with them as there is no way Dex can go into kennels. So we're still on to meet up if you;re free? What time would suit you? We'll be up from friday so could really do anytime on sat...

here is the rough draft of my email...

Dear B and G

I hear, through Dh, that ?Emma didn?t speak to me for 7 months?? was mentioned last night in a conversation so I would like to address this comment in an open and honest manor. Yor way of dealing with problems in hoping by ignoring them they will simply go away or alternatively dismissing anything anyone says to you that you don?t like is obviously not working as you still bring it up as an issue when you disagree with Chris.

I have an alcoholic mother who made my teenage years particularly difficult. She would phone us and leave rambling drunken messages on our answer phone often tearful in content but always with an emotional blackmailing slant. I had to deal with these on an almost daily basis which made my life incredibly difficult. I had to contact a solicitor to ask her to stop phoning as it was very hurtful. The important thing to remember with alcoholics is that they don?t actually remember what they have said and, therefore, often deny they ever even they?ve phoned. I had to keep tapes as evidence in order to make her stop.

When the last argument broke out G had phoned and left a very tearful message on our answer phone intimating that we weren?t speaking to either of you and asking ?what has dad and I done that has upset you so much that you aren?t speaking to us?? As far as we were both aware we hadn?t spoken to you for a bout 2 weeks and had no idea what you were talking about. I then tried to email and talk to you regarding this but you kept leaving these awful messages and that?s when I got very upset. I will not have these types of messages left on our answer phone for us to come home to, for our children to hear when there is no reason for them. If you feel that we don?t phone you enough then mention it by all means but do not try to make situations up that aren?t there. I often go for weeks without speaking to my closest members of my family, K (bf) and other close friends, we speak when there is something to say and not just ring each other to talk about the weather. We all have busy lives and don?t spend a lot of time on the phone to each other and this is something you will have to accept as I really don?t see the situation changing. After all, would you really want us ringing you everyday because we felt we had to or that you would get yourself in a tizz and invent situations that really weren?t true if we didn?t? This is emotional blackmail and we won?t react to it anymore.
I don?t remember you ringing at all in that 7 months (was it 7 months, we really weren?t counting) so why is it that I wasn?t speaking to you when you didn?t ring either?
I have also had a letter from my mother (via another source) telling me that her husband has died and that she is all on her own and she has money troubles. I have had a very difficult time in the past few months trying to make a decision as to whether to have contact or not. All my family have turned their back, yet I felt awful in doing so. This has brought back memories of all the awful times I had just before she left, just after and for a long time afterwards.

You also seemed to get yourselves in the middle of the J (dh's sister)/Dh parking ticket fiasco. J and DH had sorted things out and B (FIL) then went onto the internet and told G and J that J would have a criminal record from this. G (MIL) then phoned Dh and had a massive go at him, intimating that he was laughing at her (he wasn?t, he was incredibly confused) when Dh tried to talk to her about it a few days later she wouldn?t talk about it. You can?t say how you feel in whatever way you think right and then not allow people the right to question what you are saying, especially if it doesn?t actually involve you. We find this a lot in that you cast your opinion and then when anyone disagrees you change the subject, end the conversation and this is very frustrating.
This upset me very much as DH is my husband and if I see him upset then I am upset for him also. You can?t expect to treat him as you do and for this not to have a knock on effect on me. I would be no wife if I didn?t feel protective towards him.

So, the situation as I see it was - How can I make pleasant conversation with you when you have just upset my husband, refused to talk about what you said, when you leave strange messages on our answer phone intimating that we aren?t speaking to you. How on earth do you expect to have people even want to ring you after that?

When we do speak all you say is that how you miss the boys, yet you make no effort to come and see them. Dh?s working day including travelling is about 12-13 hours a day EVERYDAY and he has no choice to as we have to pay the bills. So that?s at least 60 hours per week and lately he has had to work in the evenings and weekends. There is absolutely no way we can travel up to yours for 2 days of a weekend. I worry about Dh?s health yet this seems to not be a consideration in your view of us. Most of my friends? parents of retirement age have retired and are free to spend their time as they wish. If B doesn?t want to retire then that is his choice but it does mean you will see less of your grandchildren as it is impossible for us to do what you want.
We are bending over backwards to take the children to yours before Christmas in that I had to move a scan, Dh is taking the day off (and not getting paid) so we can share the driving as I had to take the 1st paediatrician?s app for Oliver which was that Wednesday. I can?t do all that driving on my own as I am tired at the moment, suffering migraines (which make me sick and I have to put Ollie in front of the telly and put Henry to bed and wait for Dh to come home. I can?t take any migraine medication due to the pregnancy) I was due to drive up by myself but I can?t leave as early as I had originally planned due to Ollie?s app. We have to drive back the same day as we have the scan the following day and Dh is working from home so he can come as I am apprehensive due to the Miscarriage I had between the boys.

We had thought about cancelling but knew that the fallout from you would be awful so we have tried the best we can to still make this visit happen.

So, Oliver has been ill (and still is), my mother has made contact and tried to guilt my brothers and I into contact, we are in a recession and Dh is self employed so things could go wrong very quickly, Dh is tired from working incredibly long days and worries when he takes just 1 day off and instead of support from you we seem to get told off for not ringing enough and made to feel guilty as you don?t see the children that often.

and breathe.....

TLESinChristmasStockings · 08/12/2008 13:59

InziIsInTheChristmasSpirit or TheInziAndTheIvy

J20KissedRichieUnderTheMistletoe

WhiteWineMincePiesAndFreshCream

SilverStefkaInTheXmasPudding

AlicetWoreTinselRoundHerNeck

FloriaFoundAHugeiftUnderTheTree

TLESinChristmasStockings · 08/12/2008 13:59

Ok Guess Who Is Bored?? lol

DECKmuppetWITHBOUGHSOFHOLLY · 08/12/2008 17:31

les you have hidden talents...

(and way too much time on your hands xxx)

TLESinChristmasStockings · 08/12/2008 18:50

LMAO Muppet thats the joys of Zachary sleeping lol....i cannot get him to drink from a cup though lol so thats a hurdle for me!

Oh and as for a potty...well it makes a good hat and a good place to put toys in.

TLESinChristmasStockings · 08/12/2008 18:51

Muppet,

You should have been MuppetsChristmasCarol