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pacita · 08/11/2008 14:56

I thought I'd start a new thread before we run out of space...

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StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 10:26

ninja My post comes around midday!

We're having a day in making clay tree decorations as presents, because it's cold and DS has a nasty cold!

If anyone wants the recipe let me know. I'm going to do a mould of Baby Starlight's foot, and then cover it in glitter and put a ribbon through the big toe, for the grandparents!

jenpet · 02/12/2008 10:39

Would love the recipe starlight - I foolishly copied that thread on here about having a "christmassy activity" to do every day instead of a chocolate advent calendar for DS1 so of course have got about 10 things to do which work with our routine/interests etc & am struggling for the rest, clay feet sound perfect!

ILikeToHoHoHo · 02/12/2008 10:45

starlight - I like option b for the new thread title.

Pacita - so sorry to hear about your Grandma, I hope you get a chance to see her before you return.

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 10:54

jenpet

I'll dig out the recipe when Baby Starlight has finished feeding. Do you have on your list:

Making christmas cards (surely 5 different designs can be 5 different days worth)

Making snowflakes (fold paper into quarters, round of the non-folded corner to form arc, cut shapes out of folded egdes)

Making a 'pin the carrot on the snowman' game

baking and baking and baking *one day to make the holy icing, the next day to bake the cakes)

making paper chains

learn a new christmas song, or write one.

Kagey · 02/12/2008 10:58

Plusonemore, I guess it was probably to do with the surgery as she was saying even though the scar has healed nicely, the insides were still repairing. The wierd thing is my Doctor who I saw a few weeks before was positively encouraging exercise. Try not to worry though

x

jenpet · 02/12/2008 10:58

We started with paper chains yesterday! But some of the other ideas are fab, it's a lovely idea and gets everyone feeling really Christamssy - love the Christmas song idea - am determined my DS's will learn "English" carols as well as the French ones they learn at school (just wish I could sing!

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 11:02

LOL I meant 'Holly Icing'.

Is holy icing made with water from the holy font?

MelT76 · 02/12/2008 11:09

Plusonemore C was asleep when he had jabs, woke and did one scream, fell straight asleep even before we left the room and slept all day and night. Only managed to have 4 bottles that day too, would wake for any more.

plusonemore · 02/12/2008 11:35

oooh you have inspired me to do some christmasy things with ds1 too. Think i will do paper chains and get some christmas cutters to make biccies for the tree. Actually cirles with sliver balls and icing tubes will do wont they? how lovely

ds2 woke up after his loooong sleep and had a looong feed and is now being delightful, concentrating on bashing the toys on his paygym with his hand! Looks like I wont need to give him post jab calpol, think i just gave it regardless last time...cant really remember...

ipanemagirl · 02/12/2008 11:35

Hello all! Love reading all the Xmassy ideas.

Has anyone else's LO become rashy on the face lately? DD looks like she might be getting the beg of some kind of cradle cap is this typical of babies our age at all? She's had such lovely skin until now!

Had a real night of it with her last night... phew, she just wanted to feed all night and up shouting uncharacteristically at 530

Does anyone have a good recipe for tiny biscuits? I thought ds could make some as presents for family, we have some little cutters. Or maybe I can just use a normal gingerbread recipe.

TheHollyandtheBarnpot · 02/12/2008 12:20

hello all hope you had a nice weekend, the hv contacted me on thursday, i told her about e's green nappies etc, and she said there could be something wrong with my supply, so has prescribed domperidome. well now my boobs are like barge balloons and hes not eating more than before. and the colic has not improved. i'm sure it has something to do with his little and often feeds but how do i make him eat more and go for longer?
answers on a postcard please?

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 12:21

Craft clay:

1 cup of cornflower
2 cups of bicaronate of soda
1 and a quarter cups of water

Combine ingredients and cook over a medium heat until thick. Turn out and knead. Cover with a damp cloth until cool and shape as required. Keep unused clay in foil.

When exposed to the air, the clay will dry very hard and can be painted or glazed.

(when doing a foot imprint, you can glaze the inside and use as a mould for a solid foot)

HTH

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 12:30

barnpot wtf. That's the stupidest advice I've ever heard. I'm not saying there isn't anything wrong with your supply (although I'm pretty convinced there isn't) but...... well I'm lost for words actually!

Still I don't think your HV has done any harm except for undermining your confidence in your body's ability to meet the demands of your baby, - and potentially INCREASED the likeliness of your baby having green poos!

YOU are right about what is likely to be causing them, but the solution is not to artificually interfere with your supply. Also there is nothing actually wrong with green poos. Your body will adjust (without medication) and your baby will adjust.

However, since getting a lot of foremilk CAN make a baby more windy (coliky) then provided your supply is good you might want to try feeding from one boob only, and then offering that boob again next feed. When boobs are full the milk is more watery which can give the green poo.

What your HV has done is make you have more full boobs, increasing the watery milk even further, so I honestly can't see how this wierd advice/medication is supposed to be helping you! Nutter!

ninja · 02/12/2008 12:46

Starlight it should arrive today as we sent it Friday.

plusonemore you should be fine, I've been doing loads of exercise since 4 6 weeks and that's the recommended - it's just a bit longer for a section.

Going to change my name now!!

ninjinglebells · 02/12/2008 12:49

Just checking if the change has worked

jinglejenpets · 02/12/2008 12:51

Thanks starlight that's fab, I can see a Sunday afternoon taken care of now! When DS1 was born I had his hands & feet done at John Lewis, got a dinky frame etc but seem to remember it was pretty expensive, so will give this a go.

Barnpot agree as above - as LO's feeding needs change, your body may take a day or two to catch up, but cannot see how taking something that makes you so uncomfortable is going to help anyone - you've been successfully feeding for months already anyway! Would it help to try & make him wait a little bit for a feed? Even if its just to distract him for a few minutes, he would be that bit hungrier & feed that bit more? S has gone through the green poo thing several times, think most babies do..

Wanders off whistling Xmas carols to self...

Debs75 · 02/12/2008 12:55

Off back to hospital today to find out about ds's ankle. He isn'e allowed to weight bear and for the last 2 days that is all he wants to do so i think they will probably operate. Shipped Robyn off to friends for the day. Felt a bit sad watching her go but i can't fit her, me, dp and ds plus wheelchair and pram in the car.

Barnpot I have to agree, that sounds like strange advice. Maybe if you express before feeding you could get rid of some of the foremilk. Is the meds really necessary?
When ds was younger doc told me that green poo was a sign of being hungry. Is he still putting on weight? Surely that is the most important thing at the mo.

TheHollyandtheBarnpot · 02/12/2008 13:07

since the hv's were suppose to be keeping a close eye on him, as hes under weight he has been weighed 1 extra time. hes getting heavier and growing out of his clothes it seems like over night.
I think because i was in such a state when he had his jabs, and distressed with his unconsolable colicy bouts, in the middle of the night, being sleep deprived etc, even though the good hv said at the time that we are doing everything we possibly can. i think they need to be seen to be doing something. i will try expressing off some of the fore milk before i feed, and its an excuse to make him wait a little longer

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 13:14

Barnpot By all means express some off, but your boobs really need to learn to feed what your baby wants, not what your baby and an express machine want, so at some point you're going to have to let him feed through your boobs transition, unless you like the idea of expressing until weaning!?

Is he really underweight, or is he just below the 50 line on the chart? The two things are not the same.

And stop the medication! Ring a helpline for clarification if you need to!

HTH

TheHollyandtheBarnpot · 02/12/2008 13:28

hes off the chart, but strarted off, off the chart iyswim but was 2 weeks early, but put at term, i think all these charts are aimed at babies who had a 'normal' pregnancy, 'normal' gestation and 'normal' start to life, well elliot had none of them so i'm through with feeling guilty about him not being on the chart, i know hes growing, and i'm dong all i possibly can for him.
i think they gave me these pills because when his poo is a browny colour there are no curdles in it just very mucusy.
i just dont know i'm way out of my depth.

carrieon · 02/12/2008 13:39

barnpot I posted on here about ds's green poos a week or so ago, and it was just that he was less hungry so taking less hind milk. Supply readjusted itself and within a few days poos were yellow again. And he's now changed from pooing at every feed to only going twice a day which is a nice change! Of course as demand was down, supply went down too, and then he went on a three day feeding frenzy to build it back up again!

Can't think of a christmassy name for myself, have no imagination.

So ds wakes between 3:30 and 5 overnight. He's completely starving and biting his own arm off, but then I have to wake him in the morning and he's not interested in breakfast. How can I get him to take less in the night and more in the morning so that one day he might actually sleep through?

And in answer to the question about how one person puts two dcs to bed....I have absolutely no idea and hope never to have to find out. Dh is never going out before 7pm, ever again!!

I love the thread name about what we were doing at christmas last year! Sleep deprived for a very different reason...

hopefully · 02/12/2008 14:26

Carrieon I have a similar problem - T wakes any time from 3-5am, and takes either 5oz from a bottle or a full BF. He usually wakes himself in the morning, but takes a v leisurely feed and clearly not as much of a feed as he does the rest of the day (thankfully he still happily goes 3 hours after that feed). I think we're going to start cutting down by literally 1/4oz every few days and see if he'll still settle.

T has never had green poos. I feel slightly left out...

MelT76 · 02/12/2008 14:40

Sainsburys have 50% off baby bathtime and wipes, I think til monday

StarlightWonderStarlightBright · 02/12/2008 15:00

LittleDonkeyCarrieonMary.......

DebitheScot · 02/12/2008 15:51

Spent the morning with Lollyheart and our kids at the science centre at Bracknell. The kids all had fun esp in the water bit and it was good to see lolly again. Fraser was full of smiles and very cute- and the double of his big sister.
My ds1 has taken a shine to her dd and was talking about her all the way home.

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