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pacita · 08/11/2008 14:56

I thought I'd start a new thread before we run out of space...

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Biglips · 22/11/2008 07:24

hiya all....

sorry i havent been on here for ages..hope you all getting on great with your Lo's.

dd2 had her jabs this week which she did fine...did an almighty scream...and then settled down after about 2 mins..aww bless her. She is now 12lb 11oz but looks smaller than dd1 was (dd1 was 9.1 at birth and dd2 was 9.3and a half at birth...both was 20 ins long, now by the time dd1 was 6 weeks old she was in 3 months old clothes and 62 cm long but dd2 is still in her 0 - 3 clothes and was 58.5cm long.

She so lovely, she is very chatty as well and forever smiling and flirting with herself in her bouncy chair mirror ...got piccys of her on my profile if you like to have a look.

She has got thrush in her mouth atm..she had a bad nappy rash with thrush at 3 weeks but bum is all cleared but still treating the mouth thrush.

She had been sleeping thru since she was 6 weeks old. She had been sleeping thru since i laid down the routine.

and here i am full of cold...!

DD1 is still in love with her little sister and still helps me around alot. She said to me one day "Mum, i love K*" and i asked why?, her reply was "Cos she is beautiful" so sweet!!!

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 22/11/2008 08:53

debs - your poor ds, I hope he feels better soon. It was Foxy's dd who was in plaster recently.

makkapakka - welcome to our thread . I'm glad you picked up on the poo chair tip

biglips - your lo looks so grown up in your photo's. It dawned on me this week that ds doesn't look like a newborn anymore.

foxytocin · 22/11/2008 09:20

potxola y jearund mire lo encontre por youtube: aqui

hay de disney tambien

si download el copy de Realplayer mas reciente, se pueden copiarlos por tu ordenador y verlos cuando no estan por web o se pueden ponerlos en dvd.

foxytocin · 22/11/2008 09:24

ponymum i've never used it but you can buy it online.

Sassyfrassy · 22/11/2008 10:11

hi everyone, woke up very early with a migraine. Knew one was coming as I've been getting auras for about a week now but was still quite upset. DH stepped up to the plate though, taking Katie and luckily it hasn't been a really bad one. It's died down to just a bad headache now and I've managed to eat some toast. This hit home how dependant Katie is on me though as dp had real trouble getting her to sleep and had to bring her to me for feeds as she wont take a bottle. She finally fell asleep on dp in the sling. Nothing cuter than a man with a baby in a sling I think. Anyways, just wanted to complain about being ill a bit.

ninja · 22/11/2008 10:43

OK - Ponymum here's the anti-Thrush diet. (By the way did you use Flucanazole to try and get rid of it?)

this is the link I posted before - but I actually used the diet below

The things NOT to eat

Sugar and foods containing sugar - white sugar, brown sugar, sucorse, fructose, glucose, dextrose, corn syrup, maltose, caramel, golden syrup, treacle, molasses, maple sytrup, honey, sweets, chocolate, marzipan, icing, desserts and puddings, ice cream, cakes and biscuits, soft drinks including squash and all canned drinks, bottle ketchup, chutneys, ice creams and any hidden sugars in processed foods. (if it tastes sweet don't eat it)

Yeast and all foods containing yeast or derived from it. This includes bread and even most pitta breads, foods coated in breadcrumbs, most pizza bases, Marmite, Vecon, Bovril, Oxo, monosodium glutonate, citirc acid and vitamin tablets unless "yeast free stated. (Use Marigold Swiss vegetable bouillon for stock as this is yeast free).

Refined grains - white flour, granary flour, and brown flour (which are white flour with bran and grains added), white rice, white pasta, cornflour, custard powder, cornflakes and cereals unless "whole grain" is stated (Use potato flour as a thickener)

Mala and malted products. Some cereals i.e. Weetabix, brown Ryvita, granary bread, malted drinks like Ovaltine, Horlicks and Caro.

Fermented products - alcoholic drinks, ginger beer, vinegar and all foods cotnaining vinegar (ketchups, pickles, salad creams, baked beans), soya sauce.

Cows milk and most milk product including cream and cheese (Cottage chees and live natural yoghurt are allowed)

Concentrated fruit juices and any cooked fruit eg stewed with sugar, jam marmalade. Peel all fruit.

Dried fruits - prunes, figs raisins, sultanans, dried bananas apricots etc.

Nuts - unless freshly cracked. Avoid peanuts and peanut butter which support the growth of mould.

Smoked or cured fish and meat including ham, bacon, smoked mackerel and smoked salmon.

Preservatives - these are frequently derived from yeasts or introduce a chemical substance to the body.

Mushrooms

Tea and coffee. Drink herbal teas or Barlecup

Hot spices - the irritate the lining of the intestine

Things you can eat. The sheet actually says "enjoy" before each line but I'll leave that out because half this stuff I'm not sure how the word "enjoy" can be associated with it!

Yeast-free bread made with wholewheat glour or other grains, i.e. soda bread or sourdough rye. Village Bakery (at waitrose) or a very good rye loaf

Rice cakes, oak cakes (malt free), original Ryvita ( not brown, it is malted), Ryvita with sesame seeds, wholemeal crsipbreads (read labels carefully).

Pastry made with wholemeal flour or other grains

Soya milk (sugar free), Rice milk (Rice Dream) or coconut milk (diluted one quarter with water). You will quickly adapt to it on cereal and when cooked with oats or rice it becomes really creamy

Unhydrogenated margarines - Vitasieg or Vitaquell

Plain natural yoghurt - any 'live' variety

Cottage Cheese

Free range eggs

Salad - at least one large plate a day - make dressing out of olive oil and lemon juice, garlic and mixed herbs

Vegetables - eaten raw, steamed or stir fried

Avocados

Potatoes - cooked in many different ways. Lightly salted plain crisps are ok

Fruit - only after a couple fo weeks. Moderate amounts i.e. 3 pieces a day all must be peeled including apples, pears and other hard fruits

Other wholegrains for variety - brown rice, wild rice, millet, oats, buckwheat, barley, rye, Wholemeal pasta, rice pasta spelt pasta, corn pasta.

Fish, seafood, chicken and game. Red meat should be kept to a minimum and preferably organic

Herbs and mild spices i.e. cumin, coriander and tumeric

Drinks - herb teas, camomile tea, mint, ginger, cinnamon, ginseng, Rooibosch tea, hot water with a slice of lemon, Barleycup, V8 vegetable juice, still bottled mineral water, filtered tap water

Onions and garlic - obth of which are highly effective anti-fungal agents

Nuts and seeds - freshly shelled eg coconut, almond, cashew. Seeds - sunflower, pumpkin, and sesame. Avoid peanuts and pistachios

Pulses - beans, lentils, chick peas, i.e. humous

Extra virgin olive oil - use in dressings and to cook with. Avoid all refined oils i.e. any that look bright yellow on the supermarket shelves.

ninja · 22/11/2008 10:44

It's a pain but it did work for me!

Re Bread you can eat wholemeal soda bread and you can eat wholemeal pasta

good luck!

ninja · 22/11/2008 10:45

I have heard people swearing by grape seed extract

ninja · 22/11/2008 10:46

poor you sassy hope you're feeling better soon

foxytocin · 22/11/2008 10:48

i am exploring feeding in a wrap sling lately and i found these to share.

kangaroo care and then switching to breastfeeding position
another nursing position

another one showing how to slacken the wrap then retighten.

i am small of nork so i thought these women with nork ought to provide some confidence to those not norkilly challenged.

notcitrus · 22/11/2008 12:53

re thrush - since the lactation consultant confirmed A has it and told me to get Daktarin gel for him from the GP as candida is immune to Nystatin nowadays, I've got a lot better.

I've also been taking acidophilus capsules and grapefruitseed extract and washing my breasts in the latter, and sticking to the sugar-free diet (ie much of the diet above, but figuring yeast don't eat yeast/malt and hidden sugars are probably much more of the issue).

Fortunately my local health food shop also sells sugar-free chocolate!

Did have huge argument yesterday with other GP refusing to give me the repeat flucanazole scrip - he said I should stop bf if taking it and should have blood tests first. I pointed out what the BNF said about the dose in milk being less than that allowed to be given to babies and that stopping it would defeat the purpose of taking it until 7 days after symptoms cease. He eventually agreed to write it if I confirmed I was aware that the dose could cause liver damage if taken for over a week (I didn't tell him I'd already been on it for 3 weeks...).
Eventually picked scrip up to find it's for half the dose I was on... despite GP on Monday just asking me to confirm what dose I'd been taking and then she'd give me a repeat.
Grr!

barnpot · 22/11/2008 13:59

ok just a quicky, did the deed with DH this morning, let me set the scene, dog on floor snoring, Elli farting like atrooper, and filth files on the TV how romantic.
sorry to hear about thoes with thrush
take care all xx

hopefully · 22/11/2008 16:31

Just had some friends of DP visiting, and despite not having any children she was very congratulatory of me making the effort to BF, which was really nice.

Barnpot that sounds deeply romantic!

Gah, I think we might have thrush again. It seems to clear up almost instantly with a couple of doses of Daktarin (sp?) gel, but comes back a week or two later. Really tedious.

Sass you poor thing, hope your headache improves soon. My mother gets migraines, they're horrendous.

Debs poor Billy, it sounds like he's coping very well, but poor chap!

I am making my way through a bag of chocolates, with the excuse that I'm trying to find the one I don't (amaretto) like so DP can eat it...

SunflowerNeedsSunshine · 22/11/2008 17:11

debs hope ds is better soon , same to you sass

sitting here on armchair with dd asleep on me and laptop on piano stool (it's become a table/basket stand, since piano has been made temporarely redundant - have to go through jungle of washing to see it...), while dp is out with mil... finally had my haircut this morning!! weird feeling breeze on my neck again... meant to go out tonight, but had terrible night with ds's cough and fever, quite high this morning, and dd didn't hold in much of her feed this morning, and only had little really through the day... so feeling even worse about going out... will see, ds seems better and dd's fine, and we're only 30 mins max from where we're going...
hope you all have a good w-end

carrieon · 22/11/2008 19:16

bbaby I chuckled when I read your post - if our day doesn't start within a certain window, or if ds doesn't eat much at his first feed, I have no idea how the rest of the day is going to pan out. I realised yesterday (which was a disaster) that I'm essentially rubbish at making decisions, so I love the predictability of routine!
Ds is in a habit of not taking much at his 7:30am (ish) feed coz he's fed in the night, and yesterday was then too hungry to have his first nap at 9ish, so he ended up eating an hour early, and sleeping an hour late. Then he had his first lot of jabs, and was all out of sorts for the rest of the day. We were completely out of routine, and he was very sleepy, so whenever he woke crying I had to assume it was hunger, so he got lots of smaller feeds and by the evening was just a bundle of trapped wind and a most unhappy little camper.
Today has been much better though, although dd has just vommed everywhere while drinking her bedtime milk. She was so upset as she had no idea what had happened or why she and the surrounding area were now covered in regurgitated milk and dinner

DebitheScot · 22/11/2008 20:15

hope all the poorly/broken children get better soon, there seems to be a lot of them!

ponymum are you just into rugby union or league too? Was just wondering as NZ won the rugby league world cup this morning. They beat Australia in the final who had slaughtered every other team they'd played.

I went out for a bit of Christmas shopping on my own this afternoon. Left both boys with dh and enjoyed the peace- well as much peace as you can get in busy shops. It's so much easier to negotiate the shops without a buggy though.
Not that dh had a lot to do though as ds1 slept the whole time I was out and ds2 chose today to have his first ever long sleep (2 hours) in his bed during the day.

digitalgirl · 22/11/2008 20:41

foxy thanks for those links I was actually looking for the exact same thing! A wants to feed ALL the time at the moment. I have spent most of the last 4 weeks either glued to the sofa at home or feeling anxious when taking him out that he'll want feeding as soon as I stop moving. I even started a thread on the BF board that I was worried about overfeeding him. I didn't get a wrap sling in the early weeks as my Wilkinet was just fine for attaching DS to me. But now he won't go 20 minutes at home without a feed (unless DH is around to distract) so was wondering if it was still possible to nurse a fast-growing 3 month old in a wrap.
The lady's baby in that last link was so cute when she wriggled her feet!

debs hope your DS's ankle heals quickly.

hopefully when my DS cries with hunger I get shooting pains in my boobs so his need to eat becomes my need to feed!

hello toomuchmakkapakka

DS woke up extra early today with bright red cheeks and chin. So we gave him some Calpol and bought a teething toy as nothing else seemed to placate him (not his fist, my knuckle, the corner of a muslin, a fabric toy...). I think he likes the new teething toy as he didn't cry when I stuck it in his mouth! We can also put it in the fridge for when his gums really start to hurt.

BBaby · 22/11/2008 20:54

carrieon I know what you mean, although I do have 'slots' for feeding I'm never really sure whether I'm putting N down too early or too late for a nap.

I have a routine for the late afternoon which is always pretty much the same. N will either be taken out for a walk around 3.45/4pm until 5pm or will be coming back from somewhere so in the buggy. At 5 I'll feed, then he'll entertain himself on the gym or in the chair, bath, massage and then feed until just before 7pm when I'll put him down for the night.

In the early days (well up to last week really) I needed to know that if I just made it to 3.30pm I was on the 'route to bedtime'!

Today I've had a lovely day with my gorgeous son. Nothing special happened although I had a couple of visitors, he was just lovely and smiley all day and I'm beginning to realise that he definitely is the best thing that has ever happened to me (I possibly had/have a bit of PND)

BBaby · 22/11/2008 20:59

Oh and he napped well - an hour in the morning, two hours at lunch (with intermittent whining) and an hour in the buggy in the afternoon. Don't expect it to go so well tomorrow but it's nice to have a day where it works out well.

AND I've got tomorrow morning off!! Hubby will be caring for DS until 1.30pm. There's two feeds in that time and I'm going to leave a bottle for one of the feeds but have to do the other one. Not sure which one to leave to a bottle - the first feed at 7ish or the second at 10.30ish. Also not sure what to do with the morning. Probably just lie in and maybe wander over to a cafe and for a quick mooch around the shops for an hour.

Very excited!!

pacita · 22/11/2008 21:30

Debs sorry to hear about DS's little ankle. Hope it heals quickly.

Well DS slept in his buggy from 4 till 7 because we were out visiting friends, so I am dreading the night ahead. I got home and fed him, changed him into his pyjamas and fed him again in bed. He is now in his cot, possibly asleep (although he was awake but calm last time I looked) but something tells me he will be very awake during the night! Any ideas?

It is bizarre how he used to be the incredible never pooing baby to a baby that poos almost every day... precisely at the time when breast fed babies are supposed to poo less.

Foxy, I've been using a Kari-me sling since D was born, but lately when i put him in the tummy to tummy position he wriggles, complains then screams until I take him out. Could he have outgrown this position? I feel he's probably too young to be facing outwards yet.

Also, I'm borrowing a dydimos wrap from my cousin next week. It'll be interesting to change from a stretchy wrap to a woven one... The previous links will come handy!

Hope you're all having a good night, ladies.

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becaroo · 22/11/2008 21:37

Hello all

Had a very busy day today and had a MASSIVE sort out of clothes of Tobys and I was horrified to see how many newborn and 0-3 months clothes he got given or as presents that he has never worn!!!!

Toby is a good size (or "little chunk" as my siter calls him) and these will not fit him now

So, I am hoping to sell them to make a donation to the DEC appeal for the Congo if anyone would like to have some.....(I will e-bay them if not)

They are all boys clothes (obviously!) and include;

Mothercare 0-3 months white little bird sleeping bag (reversible)
Joggers and top outfits from NEXT newborn and 0-3 sizes
Bambini blue velour dungarees size 0-3 months
Vests and babygros from NEXT size newborn white, yellow and blue ones
Jeans and T shirt set from George at asda size 0-3 months

They are all in as new condition and come from a smoke and pet free home. Let me know if anyone would like more info on anything in particular....

Thanks!

becaroo · 22/11/2008 21:43

*Debs Sorry to hear about your Ds ankle hope he is feeling better soon and its not too stressful for him (or yu!)

sassy Hope you are on the mend - migraines are NOT fun. Been a while since I had a really bad one though.

barnpot Totally know what you mean WRT smelly farts....Tobys smell like he has been eating dog food!

eandz · 22/11/2008 23:54

hello everyone,

sorry i've been out of it. been very very very stressed as Noah has actually started to lose weight even faster than before and everyone is encouraging me to at least top up with formula.

saw a bfc before i left for the uae and then continued with speaking to local arabic midwife/nurse women who help new mothers bf.

on a bright note, i expressed on the plane (both ways) with use of my bebe au lait and lots of batteries. i'm quite happy about that.

noah has steadily been losing .20 oz a week for the last 3 weeks. so really iffy.

foxytocin · 23/11/2008 08:55

pacita when you say the tummy to tummy position, it isn't clear as most of them are t-to-t.

Do you mean in a cradle hold? I have dd2 upright in it all the time. most times her legs are in the frogged position but sometimes I notice she wants to have them down so I am starting to wrap her under the bum with legs somewhat extended.

How high is her head when she is wrapped? It should be at kissable height. Look at the vids again.

foxytocin · 23/11/2008 09:13

Debs75 how did I cope with a NB and dd1 in a cast? Sling. Early to bed. She is only 2.5 stone but had to carry her everywhere. It took her ages to learn how to be mobile with the cast and by then it was nearly time to take it off.

Hopefully your DS will adjust but with autism, I am afraid it will be trying. I teach some lovely boys on the autism spectrum. I know how they hate change and see the sensory thing in them from time to time.

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