September 08 - Just ladies with babies

[pacita]

I thought I'd start a new thread before we run out of space...

Got A weighed yesterday and he's gaining weight really quickly (nearly back up to the 25th centile from the 9th, not that I'm paying attention to growth curves), so there has definitely been a four week growth spurt. He's put on 2lbs and 9oz this month and all on my breastmilk!

Last night was better than the last two. He didn't go to bed till 10pm, then woke at 11:15, 1:45, 4:45. So nearly back to last week's night time pattern.

hello all,

Not been here for a week now as I've been busy and fed up . DD won't take a bottle (although she did when she was tiny) so I am feeling a bit chained to her and dreading the next few months not being able to get organised as I have to drop everything to feed her, then tidy up the mess DS has made while I am feeding. She does sleep well, goes to sleep at 9 and feeds some time between 3 - 5 then sleeps 'til breakfast, but I'm not exactly enjoying it. I've gone back to the gym to try and keep myself sane.

Better go, I am trying to clear out the house for a car boot / e-bay fest .

Ponymum the only reason they are not licensed to be taken while breastfeeding is because they cannot ethically do experiments with real human babies in order to test these drugs. No company will therefore say that it is safe to take it while bfing in the sue culture that is out there.

So please feel at ease with taking the medication as long as needed. And of course any complementary therapy (diet/homeopathy) that you can use, then go ahead.

Have you seen Dr Jack Newman's 'thrush' protocol?

Thanks for the vote of confidence imoscarsmum

Thanks starlight, I do hope you're right and I'm at the tail end of the 48 hours, because it's not fun. It's not just the lack of sleep, the constant feeding and the whimpering and screaming, it's the fact that he is not acting as the bright contented baby that he always was, and that worries me.

Very unlike him, but he did another mega poo today that shot up through the back of his nappy. Is it normal that poos are so liquid?

Well done Digitalgirl, it really is reassuring when they put on weight and you know that it's all come from you! I also tend to get slightly paranoid about the speed at which Diego puts on weight, but I suppose that as long as I feed him on demand, the right supply of milk will be forthcoming...It's just a bit tiring.

Meglet at your DD's sleeping habits.

imoscarsmum even in pregnancy my dh had more problems getting on shoes than me

ponymum i got rid of thrush through a really strict anti thrush diet - drugs didn't work for me either. let me know if you want me to post it

Thanks ninja, the link would be really helpful. Someone (was it you?) posted a link a couple of weeks back which I found really useful but I didn't save the link so have been following it from memory. I can handle the change to soy milk, and don't like sugar anyway, but how oh how do I stop having bread and pasta..??

awwwwww, t is unconscious on my lap (woke up in pram as soon as i wheeled it in the door and really needs another 30 mins of nap). i was going to pop him in the cot, but he conked out before i got to it, and he looked so cute that he's still here, flopped over my arm in the most ridiculous position.

Pacita almost every one of t's poos since about 4 weeks have been very very liquid, and loads of it, since he still only goes every 24-36 hours. Now he's having one bottle of formula a night they're a lot more gross and... creamy.

I hope that t's night feed eventually reduces enough that what I express will cover it - I can't get over the vague nagging guilt at giving him formula, even though it's only one feed, and I was absolutely going bonkers without it.

ponymum Charlotte is 10lb 2oz at 9 weeks old and is ff. She's always been on 25%ile. I'm not worried at all as she's putting on weight etc. Your LO sounds like she's doing beautifully - don't worry.

At least you didn;t have 2 ladies coming up to you in Starbucks yesterday cooing over DD and saying 'how small, what is she, 2 weeks old?'

finally a bit of rest. took mil to shops to get ds and dd some clothes for xmas (can't handle any more toys!) then ikea. on our way to ikea, gone 12 with dd hungry, she said "but what about feeding her?" so I said "here while we eat" and she said "what, in PUBLIC?!?!!" anyway, met lovely couple in the bf area with a 3 wk old, who looked soooo tiny... dd was wide awake standing up on our lap, looking all "grown-up", amazing the difference in just a few weeks... lots of older people cooing over dd in her sling (back in it now asleep finally...)

feeling even worse about going out tomorrow night leaving ds and dd with mil (the most un-practical person in the world, know now where dp gets it from...), ds has now got high temperature and dd has been a bit difficult to settle the last couple of nights...

at least dp can spend time with his mother for the next two days...

Hello ladies...

ponymum the HV at my local clinic dont even weight the babies anymore they just hang around watching us mums struggle with changing bags, babies, scales etc I think there is a weight chart for bf babies you can access online that may make you feel better about your LO growth....I am sure someone on here can tell you where to look!

Took Toby to clinic today as he has his jabs next week and he is 13lbs 5oz at 8 weeks! He is doing well on his comfort formula so am going to continue with it.

Thanks to all especially Star and Lolly for their help and encouragement WRT relactating but I guess it wasnt meant to be.

Meglet...so sorry you are not enjoying feeding your LO. I felt like this with my first (ff) with feeds every 2 hours that took an hour so I can empathise. I felt like I did NOTHING else for weeks on end - in fact I broke our sofa! It had a becaroo shaped indentation in it from all the feeding!!!!

splish - what a horrid situation...my dh is so great and helpful I sometimes forget there are fathers out there who arent Hope things get better for you soon.

Got a VERY busy weekend coming up and wont be online so have a good one xx

Had Erin weighed at her fortnightly weigh-in and she is now 10lb 14oz. Not so little now and is right little chubster!

We are off on a mini-break this weekend to the Lake District which should be a fun 5 hour drive. Probably will be take longer with the 2 hour breaks en-route. I am packing her winter woolies as think it's going to be freezing this weekend.

This is our practice run away from home as we are flying to Ireland in 3-weeks for a family wedding.

Have a good weekend!!

hopefuly drop the guilt - honestly - ff is NOT poison (no matter what the ladies at the NCT say !). Despite C being ff, i am not pro-formula or anti-bf(and was very upset that bf did not work for us) but at the end of the day what would you prefer:

exclusively bf T with demented mother

T mainly bf with a little bit of formula and happy mother who makes him happy. T will pick up on your stress and worry, so just relax, enjoy T at this tiny age and remind yourself you are doing the best you can for him and what is right for him, is right for him - forget about anyone else.

C is thriving not because she is ff but because we are settling into what works for us and I am much happier due to that, despite screaming colic every single night.

sunflower I feel your pain re leaving DCs with MIL. I dread the day she offers to babysit (although there's a good chance she will never offer). She hates cooking, so whenever we visit we mostly get the sort of food that just needs to be heated up. God knows what she'd feed my DS if I gave her the chance. Battered sausage and mars bars probably.

ipanemagirl I don't think I can offer advice re: sleeping through or anything as A still wakes up 3 times a night. But I consider it a good night if he feeds quickly (under 45 minutes) and then goes to back to sleep as soon as I put him back down in the cot.
For us our biggest achievement in changing a 'sleep association' was going from co-sleeping to getting him into the bedside cot (one with a dropdown side and a mattress that you can line up with your own so you can push it right up to your bed like a bed-extension). It took two weeks of unsettled sleeping, where sometimes it felt like one step forward two steps back. And we weren't 'consistent' either. Sometimes he'd sleep on DH's chest, sometimes I'd feed him lying down between me and DH and leave him there. Eventually he got used to the new mattress and not using my boob as a pillow, but sleeping in the cot was something he eventually decided to do through the night rather than us enforcing it whether he screamed or not. We also gave in to letting him sleep on his front. i.e. pick your battles.

Everyone's got their own way of bringing up their babies, but my way tries to involve as little crying as possible. Mainly because I hate to hear him cry, especially at night. I can't believe I'm such a soft touch - I really thought I'd be quite a strict mum having had quite a strict upbringing myself I thought it would be inevitable.

Thanks Starlight, we are going to Langdale (Ambleside). I last went when I was 8 so will be nice to go back!

DG I am also disastrous at hearing T cry. Sometimes, for example, I tell myself I'll try to get him to wait for 5 mins before feeding him when he first gets up from a nap, so he doesn't just want to feed the microsecond that he wakes up forever, but the second he cries, that's it! I also hate the few seconds of crying I get when I'm trying to get ready to leave the house with him in the pram and he's already overtired and has to wait while I find my wallet/phone/house keys. I usually end up crying along in sympathy!

Imoscarsmum thanks for the supportive words - I know you're right, I need to hold onto the fact that all the BF in the world wasn't making up for me spending all day weeping at him and being incapable of looking after him!

Starlight lol at your DH's 'helping'. My DP often thinks he pretty much deserves a medal after, for instance, sitting on the sofa while T is in the baby gym.

I am insanely tired today, for no good reason at all - had a pretty good night's sleep last night. Am off for a doze on the sofa before the last feed...

LOL at your supermarket incident starlight. You're probably right about my DD maybe taking a bottle again the future. I've got lots of milk stored in the freezer and was rather hoping it would allow me a couple of evening outs at Xmas, but I'll have to wait and see.

I'm being a strict mummy and have managed to put DD to bed at around 8:30. I'm trying to bring it forward a little bit every night so by xmas her bedtime should be about 7:30ish just after DS is in bed. They were both quite poorly this week, DS was sick and DD has had a nasty cold and been coughing lots. They seemed to be a lot better today.

I bf in front of my dad the other day. the actual bf didn't bother me but I did feel a bit at the fact I was wearing my leopard print nursing bra, although I suspect my dad didn't notice.

Kagey - I love Langdale! Enjoy your weekend and if the weather is foul find a nice fireplace and settle in.

Foxy - I have been reading up on the Dr Jack Newman thrush protocol you suggested. I have a couple of questions and hope you don't mind me picking your brain.

1. I have been using 1% clotrimazole. My GP originally prescribed 2% but it was changed to 1% when it was dispensed. Will this make much difference?
2. Where can I get grapefruit seed extract (reliable etc)?

Hi everyone long post coming up sorry.

Had a real nice 'ladies who lunch' day with best friend bf in a lovely cafe and the owner was fab about it. Picked over her relationship woes(just dumped her p of 12 years) and then did some shopping.
O.K. so far.

Went back to hers and had scrummy hot choc and posh (aldi) choccy biscuits when.....

Got a phonecall from ds's school saying...'don't worry' cue worrying. 'B has fallen off a fence and hurt his foot.'
He had stood with his feet between the uprights then jumped off and got one welly stuck so twisted his right foot. He wouldn't let the first aider look and she wouldn't let him come home on transport so could I pick him up?
Mad frantic rush through Hull with Robyn to school. They brought him out in a wheelchair and he was obviously distressed. Wouldn't let me look at it and he couldn't bear weight.
So picked dp up from work, went home and had a look. His foot was swollen twice the size and he still couldn't bear any weight so off to A and E.

Got there at 4 and nurse had a quick look, B was screaming as they had to take sock and shoe off. Decided prob broken so X-ray. Then he asked about pain relief, well Billy doesn't do pain relief. He can't grasp that this will stop the pain, it justs tastes funny so he spits it out. Nurse did look at us like we were mad at first, especially when we put the sock and shoes back on.
If we hadn't B would of gone mental. With his autism he has sensory issues, like he has to have a hat on so he knows where his head is!! Google it there are loads of weird ones.

Had x-ray and he has broken his growth plate in his ankle (I think that's right) basically the break isn't too bad but where it is is?

They decided he needed pain relief so they syringed diamorphine up his nose. Very quick and painless (he didn't hit any of them) just made him sneeze for a while.

90 mins later the orthopods said we could take him home with a basckslab on and go back to the fracture clinic Monday when swelling gone down.

I think the drugs were kicked in good as he let them pot up his leg with no bother at all whilst he played dr's with the play nurse

If i'm right was it Ninja's dd who broke her leg recently? How did you cope with a nb and 1 in pot?
We don't know yet how long he will be in pot, or how long off school. He is a hefty 5 stone plus lad tho so mobility is gonna be hard.

To top it off he is flagged when he goes to A and E so his social worker will be round tomorrow asking tons of Q's and I get real arsey with them and it doesn't look good.
They can't go too mad tho, it did happen at school.

The good news tho Robyn was great and slept loads, waking for a feed at A and E then back to sleep and is now upstairs asleep.
Billy is too and looks so cute with this huge white leg sticking out his covers.

debs - poor Billy! Thinking of you and hope you cope OK with this.

THanks Ponymum TBH with his high level of boisteriousness and low level of undeerstanding danger we are pleasantly surprised it has taken him till he is nearly 10 to get his first broken bone.

Phew what a day for long posts. Going to find this bf growth chart as Robyn guzzles loads but is quite low on the percentiles

Hi can i join as my DD was born 23 sept and DH complains that all i can talk about is baby poo. I thought she was the only BF baby with really really bad smelling farts but maybe not. I think its because she goes so long between bowel movements so i'm going to try the chair method as recommended.

She was 8lb91/2oz when weighed this week as 4 weeks early. Small and beautiful. I love her being small actually as i feel i have small baby stage for longer.

Managed to get DS (2.5) to go out of the house to feed ducks today without saying 'scared out' and asking to go home. A big achievement. Since i had DD he just wants to stay in and is VERY clingy. It was freezing and i was worried DD would freeze but she slept through unconcerned. I missed her feed which means she;ll be up loads in the night tonight.

From reading this thread am realising i have only had one period this year (7th Jan as she was prem and due in oct) and that has cheered me up

took her to docs for 8 week check and said she wasn't yet smiling (she's only 4 weeks adjusted age) she then proceeded to give out three or four huge smiles to make me look very silly. perhaps embarrassing her mum will be her trademark (it was probably mine too)

Ponymum, yes, it makes a big difference.

2% clotrimazole is double the strength of 1% hence you are taking only half the prescribed dose. unless your pharmacist doubled the dosage written in the Rx. (which he should have)

eg, if a doc prescribed 1 x 500mg of paracetamol every 6 hrs the pharmacist can give you 250mg tabs but write on the instructions to you to take 2 x 500mg every 6 hrs, iyswim.

Debs has the Meitai arrived? it was posted 1st class on Thurs.