we did it, we did it, the babies are here, now come and join us and we will give you a cheer!!!!

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Hope this works

thought i would start a thread for those of us already in the heady World of motherhood, so we can share the trials and tribulations of the early days....

I shall start with my birth story and hope other's follow and I haven't started a dud thread

As you know I was dreading a 3rd CS, almost to the point where I was having panic attacks - we went in on the Thursday and after waiting for an EMC we were taken to theatre where I was DELIGHTED to recognise the aneathatist (sp!!) who helped deliver DS2. Now, one of my major fears about a 3rd CS was the fact that having had a "perfect" excperience with DS2, it6 wouldn't be possible to experience the same thing again...I was wroing, it was better The whole thing was started at 1315 and Tallulah was born at 1344 weighing 7lbs 2oz. She has a shock of dark hair but seems so small compared to the boys who were 9 and 10lbs respectively. The care I recieved was absolutely 2nd to none - no complaints or gripes.........So far so good.........

HOWEVER.........my god, do you forget the pain of breastfeeding before the milk comes in - I am in absolute agony and have had to top up with aptamil as the poor wee thing is so, so hungry...I am literally BF for up to 2 hours (the point of pain in both udders ) and then topping up with Aptamil. She guzzles 30ml and then settles.......As for sleep - sleep is for wimps!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

would just like to add, it was the way she said the whole council flat thing, this is my first privately rented property, and not anything against council housing

mum2bean, that is AWFUL. YANBU. Complain. How insensitive. And she is a MW, becasue .... - wrong job, I think.

mum2bean. They aren't paid to judge anyone's living arrangements. I'm astoundedand would certainly be complaining about her if I was you. And it doesn't sound like she had anything to judge anyway.

And your house is tidy?????

oblomov- definitely think she is in the wrong job, i thought MW where like kind nan's
lackadaisycal- lol yes, house is tidy, ran around with hoover and marigolds like a woman possesed the second DD went to sleep. kim and aggy would be proud lol

it's like an organisation/conspiracy with them, and i dont really want things to get worse, plus i dont see them every day (thank god, i'd be a nervous wreck), but still, i dont think i should be worrying about a MW visiting/what she may or may not say to me.
but, they were rude and made me feel like crap, so feck them i am going to complain.
thanks for advice!

Hi all - just been catching up as been out most of the day meeting NCT chums and taking He Who Is Not Named for a walk in his nice Quinny Buzz. It was our first outing and we did quite well until just about to walk home and he started wailing for a feed - typical yesterday it was 5 hours between feeds and today its 2!! So I had to get my baps out on the benches in the local shopping centre - nice intro to public BF for me!

Anyhoo - enough about me, except this Obs I am super organised usually but this is one thing I knew I would be rubbish at as I am being so picky!!

DM I thought the staff at EH were excellent, my MW was Kate and she was lovely and when the s*&^ hit the fan with baby's HB they acted quickly but didn't panic us and explained really well what was happening. My only complaint was that during 6 hours in recovery DH and I weren't offered anything to eat or drink. But they did let us go home after 12 hours so that was a plus.

Obs I think you have done magnificently considering what you have gone through - and I think your decided action is correct - enjoy your time with Max and try not to let this special time be ruined by incompetent idiots.

Mum2Bean come see our house - its a tip and I have bribed my mum with time with her grandson in exchange for cleaning on Friday!! Ignore silly MWs - they obviously have no concept of whats important.

Sorry if I have missed anyone - big big smiles from a newly in love mummy to you all! x

Thanks for your advice and link yesterday on nipple shields Lacks mw didn't mention any of that. Am now just using them to latch Oscar on and then take them away and he is feeding nicely off my nipple. I will try and wean him off slowly.

Mum2bean can't believe your insensitive mw

Obs i'm not suprised you're

Just catching up with the thread...
Obs I can't believe the way Kings has treated you, am on your behalf. How could they think that leaving you in ignorance was better than telling you about TT? Especially when they knew you were struggling with bf because of it? I would definitely complain - after reading comments on our AN thread it sounds that this is the only way to get things changed. Then once you've got it all off your chest you can really enjoy DS2. And please, please don't ever feel you can't talk to us
Mum2bean at your mw's comments. She definitely sounds as though she's in the wrong job. Sounds like a complaint might be in order there too.
Was pleased to read all your comments about nappy changing - I'm also loathe to wake DD when she's asleep!
DD had her US scan today to check her kidneys and also a cyst on her spleen. All fine, kidney dilatation no worse. Cyst tiny and sonographer said many people have cysts which cause no problems. She said that kidney problem may yet resolve itself - she is only 8 days old after all. We have a paed appt in a month's time so we'll see what they say then. In the meantime we'll continue with the antibiotics.
Mw came round to weigh her and she's put on weight since Sunday I seem to be producing more milk because she's able to go for longer between feeds. Mw advised me to stop the bedtime top-up if I can so will try that tonight. DH back at work tonight (night shift) so hopefully we'll have a quiet night!Hope everybody else is OK

Lola that's great re the nipple shields.

I think they can struggle to latch onto big nipples when very new, but it will soon be second nature; especially as they get bigger.

cricri good news about DDs weight gain and the cyst and fingers crossed the kidney problem sorts itself out. Good Luck for your first solo night

I'm still in lots of pain when Fin first latches on and I think it might just be down to a very forceful letdown as I feel pain in the other nipple as well and when he pulled off the other day the milk was shooting everywhere.

DD was very interested in my nipples today. I wonder if she remembers being BF herself?

Hi ladies

I to flying solo tomorrow and am dreadng the school run. need to leave at 8.25 washed my hair so theoretically just need to straighten in the morning, all other jobs done and clothes laid out, whats the betting Rebecca will want feed at that time?!!

I also have to go to work. Redundancy looking imminent and I have forms to complete. Sure they should not be bothering me like they are

mum2bean at your MW's

Choc - like the bribery housework for time with grandson also impressed with 1st public BF, I still to concure that. Any tips on best clothing etc to make it easier most welcome!

Obs, cross fr you also. Hugs things will improve, x

ps Also back in my size 12 jeans, 10's are still hidden away probably forever

Sorry for crap post got to go - baby crying!

hello everyone.

obs I agree with everyone else, things have been dealt with very badly. Can I make a suggestion- it worked for a friend of mine and I'm trying it at the mo. Basically, she wrote down everything that she was unhappy about- dates, quotes etc, and really vented on paper. Then she puit it away for a while, got on with enjoying her baby. Some time later, wehn she was settled again and thigns were going well, she got the 'letter' out again, and re-wote it with a clear head- a very well composed and objective letter of complaint to the hospital. Because I think you should complain,but maybe when things are not quite so raw? Just a thought.

Glad feeding is going well for people.

Good luck for those going solo foir the first time! THings going ok here, except DD1 is having a bit of a tantrum at bedtime. I hope it's just getting used to the new situation.

And lacks thanks for the new stats thread, I've put my bit on there.

Can someone help please? TMI alert

I just had my first no2 since the birth and then after I took a bath to clean myself fully - I then used a hairdryer to dry the area and whilst doing this a big glob fell out of me (couldn't tell if from front or back). When I looked at it it was blood but a really wierd consistency, like silly putty and gluey.

Anyone know if this is normal / what it is??? Sorry for sharing so much - I hope you don't mind....

Sounds a bit like a clot, choco. I had one the day after my section. Your locchia can sort of 'pool' inside you and does sometimes clot. That may well be what has happened, but remember you can ring youe cmw if you are worried.

ChocO, as pinky says, it is probably a clot due to pooling of the lochia whilst you have been sitting around not doing very much, but worth mentioning it to the MW tomorrow.

I was really clotty after DS and DD, but strangely not so much this time.

Your name thread has really taken off by the way!

I know Daisy I even noticed some hijackers talking about girls names - I need focus though!!

Thanks Pinky and Daisy sounds normal but I might call the CMW tomorrow just to check.

I felt like reminding them it was a boy's name we were working on!

how about Julian or Leo? not too many of them to the playground, at least not here in the grim up north.

Or Darius?

.....morning all.

My little charmer slept on top of me all night last, feeding and snoozing constantly. I managed to get a few hours kip but not much. He has also been up since 6:30 feeding constantly, every time I put him down he starts chewing his hands and rooting around and making that little whimpering "feed me" noise. finally got him down to sleep 10 minutes ago, so I'm expecting a huge long sleep from him so I can get on with putting laundry away. I should get myself back to bed, but I'm well and truly awake now.

Great news for misdee.....and how quick . Can't wait to see photos.

lacks is co-sleeping usual / ok at this stage, my LO won't stay settled in his moses basket for more than 5-10 mins so I have been taking him into my bed. I'm worried about getting him used to being in our bed and not returning to the moses basket?? You read so much stuff about it being really good or really bad and I don't mind doing it at this stage (in fact its lovely ) but I don't want to be doing it forever....

I hope your LO has a big long sleep for you now!

Lots of different viewpoints on co-sleeping ChocO. I don't do it as a rule, but at this stage a few nights of baby sleeping on top of me is normal as far as my DCs have been concerned. They are still getting used to not being a part of you and the whole outside world must be very confusing for them.......cuddles from mum is just what they need.

He'll get used to settling in his moses basket. Try sleeping with one of his blankets or comforters next to you and then popping that in beside him so he can smell you; although I did that with DS1 and was woken up by a slurping noise and found he'd latched on to the beak of his duckling and was sucking away merrily

Off for a shower and then DH, the two little DCs and I are off out for lunch today.

and does he have a name yet?

no name yet - I know, I know we're awful parents . We want to make sure our choice is the right one!!!

ChocO, sounds like a clot. I had a few of those coming out on my pad. like jelly, very dark, NICE! Can't believe you were out shopping already. Woweeeeee. I managed Tesco's with dh last night, and it was very exciting to be OUT. I am co-sleeping with my 2, they sleep a lot better so frankly it is worth it. I co-slept with ds1 till he was 7 months and we only had 2-3 nights of crying to get him into his cot in his own room, so it's not as awful as you may think and personally I love it and so do they, obviously! If you want to go down the Moses route you could try making it more snuggly eg. put a sheepskin in there or roll towels and put them either side of the baby so they feel kind of 'hugged'.

Obs, had to laugh at the nappy thing! I think I am on the less rather than more side, need to stop waiting until nappy is so full it leaks and I have to change all their clothes and give a wash.

mum2bean. MW's - expect it and you will be ok. My first visit was bad, but I think she was in a bad mood, the next visit was a lot better and she was quite chatty.

My babies are 16 DAYS OLD and they still do not have red books. Can ya believe it? I have not had a visit from the HV despite having twins and 1 baby being in SCBU for 5 days. I tell you, I am living in the wrong area! I know it is not really their fault, but it's still quite shocking. Luckily I am ok and so are they...

Sore nip today, bfing in bed, don't think babies latch on well when lying down and I am too sleepy to concentrate.

that you haven't seen a HV MerryM. We get a pre-baby visit here about 6 weeks out and they give you your red book then. Mine called yesterday and is coming out next Wed to see me.

have a good day babymooning and I hope you get the latch sorted out. sounds like the twins are feeding generally well though and you are taking it all in your stride.

ChocO, am also in awe of you being out yesterday, but try not to overdo things or you'll just be more knackered later. I'm of the "stay indoors for a bit to help get BFing established and do a bit of cuddling" school of motherhood; plenty of time for running around later. Mind you, I did the running around thing with DS1; out visiting relatives who lived 40 miles away a week after having my section....but I was younger and fitter in those days! My knackered old self needs more time these days

righty ho, off out for lunch. Will need to wake his lordship up to get him in the car seat and no doubt he will want feeding as soon as he is awake!!

afternoon ladies.
I'm, as you may have already guessed, a kind of whatever suits kind of parent! I do sleep quite a bit with my babies, but do put them down in their crib/carrycot when I want to do something else. I have a knitted wool blanket, that grannie knitted for dinky, and I wrap her in that and then put her down in her crib on the blanket- cosy, smells of us etc. and she settles really well. Sometimes it can be as simple as the change of temperature from arms to bed that disturbs them.

Red books- well I got dinky's in hospital, from the girl (and she was only a wee thing) who did the hearing test. HV comes a couple of days after discharge from MW. First babies they come week before due date to say hello.

Afternoon. we are doing better. decent bouts of sleep last night.and we have been asleep, with ds on my chest all morning.

red book on 2nd mw visit.

birth certificate arrived today. had to do declaration from weybridge to lambeth. child benefit forms alredy filled out so will get that posted today hoorah. and now can open up a bank ac for max. and await the £250.already phoned tax credits to advise change circumstances.

man, i am on a roll. cleaner came, ironing done. curry cooked.
i am leaking all the time, so changing clothes constantly.and had to spray bed with fabreeze aagain, when I leaked on bed, huge puddle, scrubbed it aswell, but STINKS. Gross.

ds2 in cot, but like pinky, well actaully, due ot sesperation, I just do whatever, try anything. in cot, in moses, with me on sofa, in bed, try this, try that. I do ANYTHING, for peace and quiet.

Try it choc. Co sleeping may work for you, may not. as daisy says huge discussions about when to stop, how to prevent, .... but you can but try.