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May 2008 Babies....food glorious food....hot sausage and mustard!!!

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LuckyPumpkin74 · 03/11/2008 08:59

New thread as it's Nov so our babies are all hitting 6 months!

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thefortbuilder · 07/11/2008 18:35

hey nssa yes def free for a meet up - just let me know when you're thinking of and we can sort something out! you're always welcome round ours as well

LuckymummyBigFatTummy · 07/11/2008 19:11

flick My DD1 only got to 12kg when she was over 2 yrs old....will your DS still fit in a rear facing car infant car seat at 12kg?? (now I'm not sure if you were joking or not, sorry, not being cheeky, just interested!).

Thanks for the link mitchell. Yes, I think we will go for something like that. Good idea. Lots of discounts too at the mo!

notsoseriousanymore · 07/11/2008 19:18

If you are sure, your house might be the way to go - atleast poor old DS1 isn't constantly being told to sit down!!! Poor little mite!!!

I'm pretty free next week - Could do Wednesday or Friday if either of thoe are any good..

mumofkandj · 07/11/2008 21:03

Hello all, we're D& V free and feel sooooo much better! Yippee!

LMBFT- I'm guessing your LO just isn't quite ready for food yet. Easy starters for BLW are well cooked carrot sticks, parsnip sticks, broccoli trees, breadsticks (if you're comfortable with wheat), well cooked pasta,etc. Basically anything that can be grasped in a fist. You may (due to mummy impatience!) decide to help your baby grab it, but the putting it in their mouth bit is up to them. J was born 25th April, and this last couple of weeks has suddenly started eating- up until now she's tasted bits, made a huge mess and only minorly changed her poos (which is probably due to me getting some mush in on a spoon).

I'm struggling to remember where I read it (about rear facing car seats) but I recall reading that leg length isn't a reason to move up- even if your LO has the longest legs in the world they are safer with their knees shoved under their chins, and they have the fun of kicking the seat that some kids never reach! With K I admit being a bit 'keeping up' with my friends and when they all turned around (and said x was happier, quieter, different child, etc).

12kg rings a bell, that's roughly how much K weighs (she's 3 on Monday!)! I think I'll try her in J's car seat just to see...even though we've spent 6 months telling her she's too big and never to play with it Mummy playing is different!

We got our carseat fitting at Mothercare, but actually bought from www.kiddicare.com for £50 less, if that's any help- the offers aren't always that good though.

Mocat- has the mouse got you yet??

gotta dash*

babylove21 · 07/11/2008 23:38

Hi Everyone and welcome to wme.
dd is now on the recovery phase of the nasty bug. diarreah came with it and she's had a nasty sore patch on her bottom. The cough seems persistant still but other than that shes loads better.
Yes her pedicatric appt was this week. It went well, she cried pretty much the whole time! but i think thats because she had ' bird flu' or so the dr said lol.
Anyway he said her pulse's seem ok so that tells him the main structure of her circulation is good. Her hand/arm was red while we were there so he got to see it for himself. He said he was a bit baffled by it and its not something he has seen before. He was very honest and said he would seek his books and check its not noted or related to anything that he should be testing for. In the meantime go back in dec.

I second all that is said about this being the friendly group of all time !! I have posted on childrens health with no response and seen the pmt thrashing around on other threads.

at those who's lo's are eating the veg. my lo will eat porridge and all the packet cereals but nothing else. So she's on 2 meals of porridge. I took her to see her g gran the other day and she seems to think it will be fine to giver her choccy buttons. Yes then she will never want to eat veg . It's so disheartening to make a meal only for it to be spat out, and if i persist she will gag and choke rather than swallow I don't know what to do, the hv just says keep trying. but each time i make a meal for her i know i shall be reaching for the baby porridge after.
Andmocat has the mouse put in his order for christmas lunch yet?
Christmas yikes, i'm depressed about that, love it but no money to buy presents.

Mocat · 08/11/2008 09:45

Lol at order for Christmas lunch - jingle eek! It has all gone quiet since DH laid traps next to the main entrance route (inside boxed-in pipes in the bathroom). I hope they aren't just quietly thinking how to get in next!!!

babylove21 Glad doc is being thorough and that DD is on the mend. Shock at the choccy buttons!!! Keep persisting with the veg: babies need to try a new taste up to 6 times, don't they, before they accept it? Some research suggests that... Can mummies' patience last up to 6 attempts though? .

Glad to hear you are all better too mumof kandj. Everything DS has is pureed and if he gets a lump of anything he gags like mad. I'm going to try him with soft carrot sticks this weekend.

Have a wonderful weekend nssa. Long may the switch last!

Thnking of buying a microwave to reheat DS's homemade purees. I always make too much (one carrot and one parsnip makes two days' worth) and throw away the unused stuff. It is usually too small a portion to re-heat even in a small pan. Presumably, using a microwave is the best way to go. I don't like them though, think they nuke everybody (I know, I know).

mumofkandj · 08/11/2008 10:23

mocat- do you really want a microwave for a stage that'll only last a few months? We happily have one (well, we don't stand next to it when its on, but can live with it)but if you're not happy, that'll be hard for you. Could you put DS's food in a bag or sealed box and put in pan of boiling water for a minute or two? I do the reverse (bag of food in cold water) when its too hot.

BL21- the bit that has got me doing BLW is the NOT making anything special for J at all! I remember the frustration of K not eating her special mushes.....But J literally gets the food off my plate. Well, this week she's graduated to a bowl of her own so I can see how much actually seems to dissapear, but its the same food (and means if I want salt on my food I don't feel as guilty). J eats things I don't expect- spicy sauces (chinese, chilli, harissa, chilli flakes so far)!! Its stuff I make myself so there isn't neccarily salt (or soy sauce) in but there sure are a lot of spices...and the 'spicy' nappies are no worse than the non-spicy days! SHe's happy,so I'm not worrying- after all, the aim is to get them eating what you normally eat (ok, for us a bit healthier than we eat!). With K I spent hours making and freezing purees, so I'm finding this much easier. We've already cut out salt in our food for K anyway, so its not a big change for us with J eating it.Hmm, I seem to be rabbiting on about this, sorry. Its taken me a little while to get comfortable with the whole thing (and throw out the baby rice!) but seeing J making such a mess and having fun has (OMG) become fun for me (and I hate trying to get bits of broccoli out of the carpet!).

So glad the drs aren't worried about you're LO, that must be a relief for you, though all that crying must have been stressful for you.

Oh, one last thing about BLW is seeing the difference between gagging and choking. here's something Gill Rapley has said :

3. Won?t he choke?

Many parents worry about babies choking. However, there is good reason to believe that
babies are at less risk of choking if they are in control of what goes into their mouth than if they are spoon fed. This is because babies are not capable of intentionally moving food to the back of their throats until after they have learnt to chew. And they do not develop the ability to chew until after they have developed the ability to reach out and grab things. Thus, a very young baby cannot easily put himself at risk because he cannot get the food into his mouth in the first place. On the other hand, the action used to suck food off a spoon tends to take the food straight to the back of the mouth, causing gagging. This means that spoon feeding has its own potential to lead to choking ? and makes the giving of lumpy foods with a spoon especially dangerous.

It appears that a baby?s general development keeps pace with the development of his ability to manage food in his mouth, and to digest it. A baby who is struggling to get food into his mouth is probably not quite ready to eat it. It is important to resist the temptation to ?help? the baby in these circumstances since his own developmental abilities are what ensure that weaning takes place at the right pace for him. This process is also what keeps him safe from choking on small pieces of food, since, if he is not yet able to pick up small objects using his finger and thumb, he will not be able to get, for example, a pea or a raisin into his mouth. Once he is able to do this, he will have developed the necessary oral skills to deal with it. Putting foods into a baby?s mouth for him overrides this natural protection and increases the risk of choking.

Tipping a baby backwards or lying him down to feed him solid foods is dangerous. A baby who is handling food should always be supported in an upright position. In this way, food which he is not yet able to swallow, or does not wish to swallow, will fall forward out of his mouth, not backwards into his throat.

Adopting a baby-led approach doesn?t mean abandoning all the common sense rules of safety. While it is very unlikely that a young baby would succeed in picking up a peanut, for example, accidents can and will happen on rare occasions ? however the baby is fed. Rules of safety which apply in other play situations should therefore be adhered to when eating is in progress.

And here's another bit:

General principles of good nutrition for children apply equally to young babies who are
weaning themselves. Thus, ?fast foods? and foods with added sugar and salt should be
avoided. However, once a baby is over six months old there is no need (unless there is a family history of allergy or a known or suspected digestive disorder) to otherwise restrict the foods that the baby can be offered. Fruit and vegetables are ideal, with harder foods cooked lightly so that they are soft enough to be chewed. At first, meat is best offered as a large piece, to be explored and sucked; once the baby can manage to pick up and release fistfuls of food, minced meat works well. (Note: Babies do not need teeth to bite and chew ? gums do very well!)

There is no need to cut food into mouth-sized pieces. Indeed, this will make it difficult for a young baby to handle. A good guide to the size and shape needed is the size of the baby?s fist, with one important extra factor to bear in mind: Young babies cannot open their fist on purpose to release things. This means that they do best with food that is chip-shaped or has a built-in ?handle? (like the stalk of a piece of broccoli). They can then chew the bit that is sticking out of their fist and drop the rest later ? usually while reaching for the next interestinglooking piece. As their skills improve, so less food will be dropped.

if you want to read the full blurb (and aren't completely bored!) its here

macaco · 08/11/2008 14:32

I quote from your link...

It is not clear whether a baby-led approach to the introduction of solids is appropriate for babies who are bottle fed; more research is needed to establish this.

DS is bottle fed and we have been pureeing since he was 23 weeks. he likes it, I don't find it a hassle at all to make up a big batch and freeze into ice cube trays, in fact I find it easier than par boiling little carrot stick whenever I want to feed him.

I have nothing against BLW, in fact I've been offering him sticks of pear to play with lately but there really isn't anything wrong with spoon feeding if you follow the guidelines and you are happy with it.

Well, it's a beautiful day here so we've been out for a little pootle round the shops and then some tapas in the open air and now DS is "supposedly" having a nap. In laws coming tomorrow for lunch, but bringing the food so i don't have to cook!

Going back to the 12kg thing for seats... was looking today
group 1 is from 9kg. Someone said their LO was 12 kg at 2 years old? Or have I got that totally wrong? How much do people¡s LOs weigh now? DS is 8.5kg at 7 and a half months.

wastingmyeducation · 08/11/2008 15:35

There's nothing to suggest it isn't appropriate for ff babies, just that the research she did was on bf babies.

DH was wondering about car seats today, as DS is long, but he's 7.14kg at 25 weeks, so I guess we don't need to worry about that yet.

Right, I'm just topping him up, and then I'm off to steam some carrots and broccoli for his first 'meal'!

xx

notsoseriousanymore · 08/11/2008 15:51

I think all kids are different and some will get on great with BLW and some won't.

DS (who, just out of interest, has been primarily bottle formula fed) is getting on really well with being spoon fed but less so with exploring food on his own. (that's not to say others won't - I am no expert and I have a case study of one ) but I think the conclusion is that if mummy and baby are getting on OK there is no point in changing tack.. I was quite interested in BLW, but it seems we are taking a different course!!

Hope you are all having a lovely weekends. Mine is going great

babylove21 · 08/11/2008 20:40

My lo is not gagging and chocking because of lumpy food, simply on food she decides she doesn't like the taste of, that includes pureed food and all the stage 1 cow and gate jars including mums own recipies!
I gave her half a banana to play with and she did enjoy putting that in her mouth although it didnt get eaten at all, just licked and mouthed.
Porridge she will eat ( even with lumps) lol.
I read a section of the tesco mother and baby leaflet that mentioned it was better to wean onto veg first than fruit as fruit is sweeter and might make the transition to veg more difficult. Perhaps that is where i have made a mistake, in offering the fruit & oat type cereals.
I have 2 grown up children and i dont ever remember worrying about weaning and them not eating.
mocat i was speechless when the choccy buttons were mentioned. She is a wonderful caring grandma but of the bossy sort, if it was fine back in the year dot then it still is, that kind. In fact i had to bite my tongue when my lo was poorly last week as i had seen the out of hours dr, and then the pediatrician and she then said, well these chest things can turn nasty in 5 mins. I'm sure she was expecting me to visit a surgery daily with her!

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 09/11/2008 17:26

It's me, LM, another name change. I've been trying to think of something that sums up how I feel these days and I think this is it. Unfortunately, the bad days seem to be out-weighing the good days .

mocat I heard they had to try something fifteen times before you could say they didn't like it!!!! I definitely wouldn't have the patience for 6 let alone 15!

Will catch up with the rest of the thread later.

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 09/11/2008 17:30

It was me who said DD1 weighed 12 kg at 2yrs old. I just checked in her red book and she was exactly that!!

babylove21 · 09/11/2008 20:03

Hey good days, you feeling blue? This miserable cold wet weather isnt doing my mood much good.
bought dd a high chair today, oh what stress. Choice is good, but really there is just too much out there. Lucky for me dp was feeling generous so managed a few bruin toys that are 3 for 2 at babies r us.
Still the high chair hasnt done anything for her taste. One mums own jar - in the bin. One heinz baby custard with apple & mango - in the bin. She was so worked up having be offered not 1 but 2 portions of poison that she refused her usual porridge!

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 09/11/2008 20:16

babylove I am feeling your pain hun. I HATE weaning! It can be soooooo frustrating. I don't know what's worse, putting stuff in the bin you've bought, or stuff you've spent ages making!!!

Saying that, DD2 ate the best she's ever eaten tonight, 3 'icecubes' of Bsquash and hardly any spitting out and hardly any, if any, mess on her bib!!!!!!!! She must like it.

Anyway, BL21 I am glad the cons appt went OK. I work in the NHS and i think it's very reassuring that he told you he is going to look it up as he hasn't seen it before, I personally think that's the sign of a good consulatant, not one who thinks they are GOD and just brushes ot off. When is her next appt?

And you're riht, I don't think the weather helps either. Esp when DH left the double buggy outside yesterday when he back from shops and it got soaked in the rain....so I can't use it for a few days .

baiyu · 09/11/2008 22:11

nssa glad you're having a sunnier time of it, long may it last!

gooddays hooray for butternut squash, you are getting somewhere but try not to stress about it.

macaco We're also really enjoying purees in this house! Sometimes I feel a bit of MN guilt for not doing BLW but I think in a way all weaning is baby led, they won't eat what they don't like. I do give DS food to hold and play with but mainly we use purees. I find it a really easy way to do things. I make a big batch, freeze in ice cube trays and then pop them out into labelled plastic bags so they're easy to grab and I can make up lots of ace combinations. I don't find it a hassle at all, I do it at the same time as our food. Today we had leek and tattie soup (with celery, onion, garlic and mushroom too). I just whipped a bit out before I added stock, S&P etc and DS had it for lunch and loved it. If I'm roasting I do a separate little one for DS, if I'm making jam, I'll cook him some of the fruit etc etc. I don't buy anything that's just for him (apart from baby rice which we chuck in as a bit of a thickener more than anything else), we get a veg box that gives us all all we need. Lumps are no problem (I just mash things like banana and ripe pear), weetabix is a hit and he likes everything I've fed him so far. (Sorry, don't mean to be insensitive to those finding it tricky but weaning is all good here)

Mocat We don't have a microwave and our kitchen is far too tiny to fit one (seriously, our fridge is in a cupboard in the hallway cos there's no room for that either!). I just take things out to defrost the night before and then heat them up in a bowl of boiling water with a lid on top. Works just fine.

My sister has still not moved out (a week has become 2 months) and now it turns out she has MRSA (not the scary hospital killer strain apparently) and although the nurse told her it wasn't infectious, she caught it somehow and now I have a lump on my arm... She picked up some nasty things on her travels so I'm a bit scared. Having a bit of a panic but she's off on a bender somewhere so I can't even quiz her til she gets back tomorrow night. Hmmmph.

baiyu · 09/11/2008 22:12

nssa glad you're having a sunnier time of it, long may it last!

gooddays hooray for butternut squash, you are getting somewhere but try not to stress about it.

macaco We're also really enjoying purees in this house! Sometimes I feel a bit of MN guilt for not doing BLW but I think in a way all weaning is baby led, they won't eat what they don't like. I do give DS food to hold and play with but mainly we use purees. I find it a really easy way to do things. I make a big batch, freeze in ice cube trays and then pop them out into labelled plastic bags so they're easy to grab and I can make up lots of ace combinations. I don't find it a hassle at all, I do it at the same time as our food. Today we had leek and tattie soup (with celery, onion, garlic and mushroom too). I just whipped a bit out before I added stock, S&P etc and DS had it for lunch and loved it. If I'm roasting I do a separate little one for DS, if I'm making jam, I'll cook him some of the fruit etc etc. I don't buy anything that's just for him (apart from baby rice which we chuck in as a bit of a thickener more than anything else), we get a veg box that gives us all all we need. Lumps are no problem (I just mash things like banana and ripe pear), weetabix is a hit and he likes everything I've fed him so far. (Sorry, don't mean to be insensitive to those finding it tricky but weaning is all good here)

Mocat We don't have a microwave and our kitchen is far too tiny to fit one (seriously, our fridge is in a cupboard in the hallway cos there's no room for that either!). I just take things out to defrost the night before and then heat them up in a bowl of boiling water with a lid on top. Works just fine.

My sister has still not moved out (a week has become 2 months) and now it turns out she has MRSA (not the scary hospital killer strain apparently) and although the nurse told her it wasn't infectious, she caught it somehow and now I have a lump on my arm... She picked up some nasty things on her travels so I'm a bit scared. Having a bit of a panic but she's off on a bender somewhere so I can't even quiz her til she gets back tomorrow night. Hmmmph.

monkeysmama · 10/11/2008 08:58

Still little sleep in the monkey house!

Baiyu - sounds a bit worrying about your sister. Hope she, & you, are okay. Regarding weaning & "MN guilt". I really hope that this thread remains guilt-inducing free! Lots of us are doing things different ways & whatever the reasons (ease, beliefs etc.) I hope we can continue to support each other. I've found some really unpleasant attitudes in RL (dd is exclusively bf) - especially because I've waited until 6 months to wean (& am going by what I think dd wants). You do what you think it best for you & your ds and forget everyone else!

Mumofkandj - where did you get the quotes you posted from? Is there a book (or site) on BLW you can reccomend? I have some very basic questions but have found it quite hard to find anything balanced, simple and informative. Dd is 6 months on Friday (how did that happens? Where has the time gone!) and want to start her with some food soon.

Are all your LOs in high chairs? I have been a bit confused by the advice about sitting up so hadn't tried dd in a high chair because she can sit up for 4 or so seconds on her own before tipping to the side. Anyway, we were in a restaurant on Friday & I tried her in one & she loved it. We still haven't bought her one - my task for this week. I am thinking about the Fresco Loft. Does anyone have one? They're quite dear but I like the fact they move easily to different heights & she can sit in while I am cooking etc.

Final question - is anyone doing baby signing? I've introduced a few signs (which make dd laugh ) although I have no idea what effect they'll have - I am bringing dd up bilingual anyway. May be communication overload!

Hope everyone has a happy Monday.

MM

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 10/11/2008 12:27

I must be really naive, because although I have heard of blw, I never imagined that it was the 'pc' thing to do....IYSWIM, like BF vs FF. WTF? As long as the baby gets food, IMO it doesn't really matter how they get it!

DD2 is doing much better now with her food, I just needed a little patience. I feel that it's just a matter of her learning what to do with the food, having had milk for 6 months. I will start to offer her finger food too, but at the moment I am happy doing what I'm doing. I certainly won't be changing because of feeling guilty cos it's what I should be doing.....crikey, I feel enough guilt all day long about other things without this!!!

Sorry, might sound like a rant, it's not meant to. I'm still very much a FML!!!

Just feeling a bit tense last few days. I rang the HV today and she is gonna come and talk to me tomorrow. (I still have concerns re the PND).

DD1 at CM all day today....I really miss her!

Mocat · 10/11/2008 12:50

Hi, everyone!

gdabd (that's you lm74)!! Your tension could well be coming from the shoulder pain and the change of demands on you because of the spoon feeds. Glad your HV is responsive. I have the easiest baby in the world to look after but introducing a formula bottle and also breakfast (Ready brek) are just making me tense too. We all love our babies but it is hard work being a mum and any change in routine demands more thinking and effort until it becomes second nature. Good jop we are all so perfect!!!

I'm going to give DS a few bits of steamed brocolli and carrot tonight and see what he makes of them. I'll also have a puree lined up too! I bought the microwave (that's what happens when I don't read MN for a few days and miss good advice!) and I managed to burn a sodding puree and tots pot!!! How the can you burn stuff in a microwave?

Spke to my excellent HV today and she reckons never worry if DS isn't taking more than 2fl oz at a time of formula. He's eating well and taking about 4 breast feeds at other times. Today I have to cut out the lunch time feed (enormous left boob hampering me as I type. It keeps trying to mash the space bar!! I wish, size A cup normally!!!).

monkeysmama DS does well in high chair but he cannot sit up unaided yet. He too does the 3 second sit then sideways fall!

baiyu Love all the food you are making! Hope you haven't caught any nasties.

Four traps re-laid; two missing. Keep an eye on the N.Ireland news just in case.

mumofkandj · 10/11/2008 14:00

Hello!
I put the big blurb up on BLW as someone said she wanted to know a bit more about it- not to make anyone feel unhappy or stressed, just to share info (guilty emoticon) The last thing I want to do is upset anyone, and I know I get very enthusiastic when I find something that works for us (slings anyone?!). AFAIK spoon feeding is what HV will advise, starting with purees and moving onto lumpy- absolutely nothing to have MN guilt in my opinion.....I guess my motivation for 'talking' about it is I feel I miss hearing of stuff that,if I'd've known about it (or more about it), I might have done it with Kate. BLW and slings definately come under that, co-sleeping possibly.

Monkeysmama, here's the link here where I first read up on it, and there was something in the Guardian... but can't find it now.
We didn't use a high chair at first, we had a 'clip on' chair that's fabric with a seat pad in- and only used it when she would sit without slumping too much too quick. If you're LO isn't using it too much as a chin rest (hard to get food in LOL) should be good! I got fed up of washing it though and got a wooden one....

Right, the fridge freezer has died so I have to sort out the milk donation and get ebay parcels posted...and my big girl is 3 today!!!

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 10/11/2008 14:17

mumofkandjPlease honey, there is no need for you to feel guilty about anything. It was me who asked, and I'm garteful for your reply, all I was saying, in response to someone (Baiyu I think) saying she had 'MN guilt', it made me realise perhaps it's one of those things that's regarded better for baby, IYSWIM. I never knew that was even possible, I simply thought it was merely a different way to do things....which it is!!!

MM DD2 has been sitting in a highchair since she was 4 months old, not to feed, but to keep her amused. She sits with us at the table when we eat, and to watch me cook etc. She loves it. I put her in it long before she could sit indep. It is, howvever, a very 'cosy' and supportive highchair, so she's very secure. I tried sitting her in one in costa coffee the other day and she didn't do well at all, kept falling to the side.

DD1 at CM all day as my very good friend is coming over from USA to stay for a few days with her 4 month old baby, so I have been cleaning the house from top to botom!!! I wanted DD1 at home on Weds when my friends are here, instead of at CM, so I changed her to all day today, which has given me a whole day to clean when DD2 is asleep .

Very excited about my friend coming, it was me, her and Denny at uni.....the girls!!!

GoodDaysAndBadDays · 10/11/2008 14:19

garteful???? Grateful!!!

notsoseriousanymore · 10/11/2008 14:39

Hi guys,

Not much time to post as DS screams every time I put him down. I am blaming teeth, but then I blame them for everything these days!!!

MM We tried signing. DS hated it, but loves monkey music and a french class too... I learned enough signs (nappy, milk, sleep etc) so don't go anymore. I'm not bothered in signing crocodile etc., Also, I have a high chair for DS and he likes it alot. I looked at the Fresco lofts and actually bought a mozzee - DS HATED it. The one I have now is nowhere near as trendy but is padded and DS loves it. Def. see if you can try before you buy!!!

GDABD hope you have a lovely time with girls

DS screaming again, better go!

NSSA x

babylove21 · 10/11/2008 16:10

page 4 of 5 .. i cant get a page 5 ? anyone
Dd's next appt with consultant is dec 30.

i'm not a very good cook, and with the baby food im stuck for ideas. how do you cook b squash? ive no idea. I am going to try her with some softened vegetables to handle herself. She sucked on banana the other day, although it did nothing for her apetite. But i think it might be a better way to introduce new flavours.

I like the idea of the ice cube tray but i wouldnt know what to put in it.

NSSA maybe your lo is going through the seperation anxiety thing ? when you put him down i mean? just a thought other than teething, although teethings good cause no one can say no hes not lol.

me and my friend always had a joke about the teething issue as once past 12 weeks any grumpiness is always explained by the HV as teething trouble