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libralady · 06/09/2008 07:08

Just thought I'd better set up another thread as the old one is just about to run out.

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JODIEhadababy · 30/10/2008 15:07

Oh and Libralady where for art thou????

sweetkitty · 30/10/2008 15:47

afternoon all just finished decorating the house and carving a pumpkin the DDs are hyper and Halloween is not until tomorrow!

Was out at toddlers today, B was sleeping and when she awoke she needed a change and of course it was everywhere all up her back and silly Mummy had taken the emergency babygro out the changing bag, luckily the toddlers is so nice they have spare baby clothes, so I managed to dress her again in a brand new in pack vest age 6-9m (not that big looking) and her dungarees.

Jodie - thank I have quite a few of those books already, DP bought me Marian Keyes' latest for my birthday I think I am on page 5 and for a girl who used to read a book a week it's a shock.

JODIEhadababy · 30/10/2008 15:49

SK I found her new one quite hard to get into too, but once I perservered and got half way through I was addicted (as normal!)

disneystar · 30/10/2008 17:36

hi guys just got back from cardio appt
samuel has 2 asd or 2 holes in the heart and his duct hasnt closed so hes got to much blood going into his lungs hence we are now on the open heart surgery list
permission to fly denied no going anywhere for us not on a plane anyway till after surgery
got to take him to hv tomorrow to check his stitches its healed but it doestn look right to me they removed one of his testicles as he had no vas and no kidney on the right side but it looks odd to me worth getting it checked out
i feel strangely calm tonight even hearing this news i havnt spoken to dh yet as hes away and tbh i dont want to i feel so shut of right now
i felt like saying in there anything else wrong to add to the list what else you gonna throw at us
hope all is ok with you guys and the lovely babies
off to bath my little man whos now asleep in my arms
has anyone else relationship seem a bit stale since the babies arrived i feel a million miles away from my dh Al right now even in the same room its like theres a wall there i dont want him near me i dont even answer his calls

sweetkitty · 30/10/2008 17:48

oh disney poor wee Sam he's having a rough time of it, do they know roughly whe he will have the surgery? Are all his problems linked to his condition or seperate to it, sorry for all the questions, kind of puts all our moans and groans to shame, sending you some virtual hugs x

re relationships ours isn't particularly great right now, we are a briiliant team and fab as parents but as partners it's a bit rubbish. Suppose a lot of it is never having having time to ourselves, DP also stressed about work right now. By the time I get the DDs down and settled it's 8.30pm sometimes 9pm then I just want to have a cup of tea and read the paper and I'm in bed at about 10.30pm.

disney - probably a bit of PND, I get like that not wanting anyone near me.

DonutMum · 30/10/2008 18:05

Jodie - did you think Coming Up Next was crap? I did.

Weeble - had Baklava but trying to stay away as still a humungous great big lard arse.

Disney, for you and poor wee Sam. I'd love things to be better with DH right now too but am just too tired and focused on the babies. But this too shall pass.

smudge123 · 30/10/2008 20:43

Disney- I hope things get better for little sam soon, will the surgery be the last he needs?
It's no wonder you feel so shut off right now, it must be really hard while dh is away. My dh and i have similar relationship issues. I think all new parents do to some extent. When he's there i sometimes think it would be the same as if he isn't! We have nothing to talk about and when we try to find something to talk about it just feels really fake and forced! I blame my hormones!!

On a totally different note, a while back in this thread we touched on the hot topic of weaning, we all said it is a bit controversial and kinda left it at that (very wise people we are too!) WELL... I browsed onto another site looking for groups near where i live (am taking all your advice and trying to get out more) and i came across a poor woman who is facing the dilemma of weaning. The responses were brutal!!! One even suggested she was harming her baby just to get herself a goodnight s sleep!!! No joke!!!
I am so grateful that i found this thread and all of you, as when i am having a crap day at least now i have people i can moan to and their not mean, just supportive! I never knew other sites were so nasty to each other ! whats that all about!!

disneystar · 30/10/2008 20:57

smudge im afraid samuel needs many more operations yet
you said what i was trying to say when me an my dh talk it does feel forced and a bit like well what can we say next,it never used to be this way and tbh i dont need him right now not for support not for anything i seem to be happier on my own i need to get back to the docs im on meds for pnd but i maybe need something different
does anyone have any medical knowledge here
im on citrolopram for pnd 20 mg a day
i have 3 or 30mg of amitriptyline at bedtime and strong co codamol hospital strength and 50 mg tablets tramadol for pain releif to me it seems to much and i feel so low all the time could this be a factor
i take the tramadol or codiene 4 times a day or alternate
well as they say tomorrow is another day taking the boys to an art and craft session which they are looking forward to
off to do samuels bottles now
omg i sound a moaner and whingy about everything people are worse of than me i try to remember that we are lucky all things considered we are all together ive got to try to be happier

pigleychez · 30/10/2008 21:10

Hi all,

Phew what a day!
Long story but its a friend of the families birthday and we are due to go to a birthday/fireworks party. Both DH and I thought it was next weekend but were wrong and its actually sat! Needless to say I had planned to get his present next week when its not half term and the shops would be quieter.
Rushed into town today to get something and it was heaving!
Plus we wont see them before xmas now so needed to get all thier xmas presents today too!

Was in the main shopping mall when the fire alarms all went off and an announcement to evacuate! Wasnt allowed to use the lift to get to the ground floor so had to attempt the elevator with the pram. Thankfully a lady helped me hold the front. Managed to get my shopping after lots of searching for ideas and a lovely snowsuit for Abigail.

Heading home and the car was parked on the level with Debenhams exit so went through Debenhams to get to the carpark. Suddenly the lights went out and we were all in darkness! The electricians that were working had done something. Still able to use the lift so went up to the top level to get to the car. At that level the lights were off too and it was pitch black! Staff were advising peole to go back downstairs, but as I wanted the carpark exit I was escorted across the shop in the dark with a torch!
It all happens!!!

Anyway enough about me! :

Donut- Hes a cutey

Jodie- I too made shortbread

Disney- Poor litle sam but he seems to be taking it all in his stride- so to speak!
Things are sure to put a bit of strain on your relationship.

Well after Abigails 8-6 sleep the other night, last night she was back to waking at 3am and being wide awake for an hour!
See what happens tongiht!

isaidboo · 30/10/2008 21:48

I'm a made up Mummy here - I never leave the house without foundation, blusher and mascara. Don't think I look like a clown.... I get up at 6:30am on school days so i have time to wash and dry my hair, and slap the make up on. Also try to wear nice clothes, even if I'm not going out.

I go to a couple of toddler groups, but it takes a long time to get to know people. I'm much better at small talk now since going to them, but it's hard to make the next step to be friends with someone away from that group. I am always afraid my house will be too messy to invite people over for coffee / play. I am also afraid they might just say no!

Have read the thread but now have completely forgotten everything. Sorry ! Hello everybody... hugs if you need / want one ... sending good sleepy vibes to all babies (Poppy not too keen on the sleeping all night trick; seems to be an occasional treat!)

wobblingweeble · 30/10/2008 22:07

PIGLEY - what a day indeed glass of vino and feet up required

Just back form bellydancing class - was fab - lots of ab work and new dance routine.

DISNEY - sounds like depression to me - wanting to shut out your DH. I would go back and see your GP - maybe you need to up the citalopram to 30mg - it has made a big difference to me for sure. May I ask what you are on painkillers for? What about your diet - are you eating enough essential fatty acids (found in nuts not peanuts though, oily fish, flaxseeds and avocados)these are essential for nerve function and help to promote feel good factors, are you getting any exercise at all? A 20 min walk can help to promote the hormones that lift your mood.
If you do not mind me saying ( I am being honest here) your posts swing between absolutley loving your DH and being unsure of his love for you and your feelings for him. remember it must be tough for him too seeing his kids going through all this and seeing the woman he loves suffering too. It is much harder for men to express themselves and they do not talk for the sake of it like us women who need to babble to let off steam - men hold it in until they feel able to talk about things. It does not mean he does not care - it is just the way they deal with things. You have both been through a lot and have a lot to deal with so give yourselves a break - companiable silence can be just as nice. Anyway I would go see your Gp again and discuss meds and also ask if you can get some counselling. Meantime sending you hugs too and hope Sams op is sooner rather than later xxx

SK - if you are feeling really anxious and avoiding going out/sweating a lot and generally feeling panicky then I would go see your GP too - honestly the meds have made a HUGE difference to me. I was having catastrophic thoughts a lot and sweating/anxiety attacks etc - much better now.

I have never read Marion Keyes (sp?) I have been reading Maeve Binchy, Norah Roberts (hit and miss with her bit too virginal woman and big strapping man for me sometimes) and I really like Freya North - all none brain engaging stuff which is what we need just now!

Anyway am off to chill and put my wee chappie in his basket.

xxxx

smudge123 · 30/10/2008 22:26

Disney - I can't offer any specific medical advice, i did train as a nurse for 2 yrs before chucking it in and went to uni to become a psychologist, so i would offer the following advice:

I cannot advise as to your meds, but if you feel they are not working for you, speak to your gp. It may be a case of altering doses or perhaps changing them.
You may feel that as you are unable to share everything with your dh at the moment that talking to someone else may be helpful. They may be able to offer you new ways of working through your emotions and suggest other coping mechanisms for the pressure you are under, in conjunction with the meds. (we were taught meds are to stabilise whats happening chemically (as in pnd) but that is only half the story. Counselling and support groups for example are the next step to tackling how we cope and move on if there are other factors involved). Might help to have more control over how you feel about things. I don't mean to sound too psychologisty, you seem to be a very brave lady who is coping amazingly, and without a doubt a wonderful mother, But just remember you are important too! No one should feel alone or down when help, advice and support is out there. after all isn't that why we are all on these websites, to support each other!

Try not to read too much into not wanting your dh around at the mo. That could be down to many things!! I think all of us on here have found it difficult with our partners at one stage or another.( Im still going through it with mine, I dread it when jack goes to bed as it is then just the two of us and i hate the dead atmosphere between us) Hopefully when you start to feel better in yourself (and you will!) things will improve between you.

I hope i have not overstepped the mark or offended you with my suggestions. I really do believe you are doing an amazing job, and that you will get through this a stronger person!

hope tomorrow is a better day!

Libra1975 · 31/10/2008 07:38

WOOOOO!! *DOES A A LITTLE DANCE
Alex went from 7pm -7am with just ONE feed at 1:30am.
*SHAKES HER POM-POMS

*goes to tell complete strangers in the street.
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I of course woke at 3am,4am and 5am expecting him to wake at any second

wooo hoooooooooooo

Happy Halloween everyone

smudge123 · 31/10/2008 08:59

Congrats Libra1975! Long shall this new sleep times reign!!

JODIEhadababy · 31/10/2008 10:13

Well done libra Thats ace!

Sam rolled over yesterday! Ahhhh, I didn't want him mobile just yet! He's done this a hell of alot earlier than DS1 did! Gd help me...

I;ve just go Take That Tickets!!!! whooppeee

Also for those of you that are interested The Wonder Stuff were ACE last night!!!!!

JODIEhadababy · 31/10/2008 10:16

.....Right calm down Jodie.........

disney with all thats happened it's not surprising you feel 'down' I hope a visit to the doctors and some more meds will keep you balanced. As Smudge said, you're no doubt doing an amazing job will all of your children!

donut It wasn't one of her better books, abit long winded for me. The story went on far too long and the outcome was so not worth it!

TJuice · 31/10/2008 11:57

really think this thread is cool and very supportive . . . weeble and smudge - think your advice was spot on.

disney - sorry to hear about Sam but otherwise it does sound like he is doing so very well. hope you get the support you need - you definitely have it on her.

Momma23 · 31/10/2008 12:10

Hi Ladies

RE: relations!!! Our was great for a while and now i just cant be bothered!! AF is here and i am dragging her into the second week IYKWIM... I am getting fed up being home bound ever day too. Its not easy at all. But going for a walk with 3 toddlers is defo no fun...

Disney
You have been through so much hun, and it all can get onto so quick. I would chat to your GP and see what they say.. Different meds could help you through.

Off to pick up DD1 and try and sort out this mess of a house!!!! TMI .....I found poo on the bathroom sink this morning!!! LOVELY !!!

sweetkitty · 31/10/2008 15:21

Happy Halloween everyone, today last year I found out for sure I was pregnant again, told B she was a ball of cells this time last year she was impressed!

TMI alert but I have this huge pile that has popped out from nowhere (well you know where from) I am in agony, it's so painful. Am using cream but will have to get something stronger if still like this tomorrow.

B been rolling over for weeks now can't remember when the other two did she also likes to "stand" a lot and screams if you don't have her standing. Smiling a lot more now and she's found out how to blow raspberries so she's lying in her cot with big slobber bubbles.

Right must go do some tidying before we have all the guisers (thats trick or treaters) descend.

pigley - complete nightmare shopping trip, Tescos have just turned up with no frozen food and no nappies argh!!!!

Minkus · 31/10/2008 16:08

oh libra !Up here at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and for what feels like most of the night between. Am pleased for you though, honest!

Minkus · 31/10/2008 16:16

supposed to be going out for dinner tonight but really just want to go to sleep, have nothing to wear anyway!

pigleychez · 31/10/2008 20:27

Happy Halloween ladies!

Just posted some pics of Abigail in her Halloween outfit on Facebook.

Will catch up later but hope everyone has a good night and the babies arent up at the witching hour! Hehe- Get it!

Rumpel · 31/10/2008 20:43

Poor MINKUS - sending that wee blighter some calming sleepy vibes!!

I was up a lot last night too 3 x and constantly putting dummy in, patting etc - got about 2 hours kip.

LIBRA

SK - a trip out for you or DH then? Do they give you something free if they mess up like that? I would be complaining for sure.

neighbour came round for quick cuppa today hoping we become friends as I really like her and sha has a wee boy 10 days older than Clavin - they should both be going to school together and both have the ginger gene so they might become buddies

No rolling here - TBH he hates being on his tum so I tend not to leave him on it for any longer than a few minutes. he is quite strong on his legs though - DD did not walk until she was 15 months old but this wee chappie is great on his HUGE feet

Well am off to chill now DC are in bed.

must check in to fb and upload some new pics too.

xxxx

JODIEhadababy · 01/11/2008 07:00

Morning all.

SK I hate it when Tesco's do that, they turned up here last week with no formula and I had very little left of my old box, I had abit of a whinge to the driver (not a major one, as I know it's not his fault, I was just abit stressed out), and I got a lovely phonecall, which I really wasn't expecting. I reckon if you call and complain you might get some vouchers!

Well I was worlds worst mother yesterday, I felt really quite poorly, so I just let DS1 sit on front of Cbeebies we did go to the swings for about an hour mid morning though, and when DH came home (early, bless him) he played with him, but didn't stop me feeling so guilty.

Am off to the Peak District this morning for a nice bracing walk, and then off on the piss with my friends tonight (and I;m staying over ) Can't wait!

Momma23 · 01/11/2008 08:39

SK
HAte when tesco do that!! Esp if there needed.. Sorry about the pile been there and know the feeling!! Get all the creams you can and ease the pain, there horrible little things hope it goes away soon.

Jodie
Hope you have a lovely night could do with one of them myself...

Better go as i can smell a dirty nappie and dress the kids. DD2 has another ear infection 3rd one in 2 months!!!

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