December 2006- where they've grown so much we spend more time talking about our lives than our children

[Indith]

Well that and our pregnancies and other non-dec '06 children

Tis a good thing I feel.

AQ - I remember the emotional precipice very well towards the end with DD. It is all hormones and is a good sign things are happening as they should be. You are bound to be feeling vunerable - its a natural reaction for someone about to have a baby (or two )that's why animals retreat to give birth in quiet dark places. I am certain we will be having lovely news from you very soon, now go and get some rest!

The late stages of pregnancy are the pits as you want the discomfort to go away and you want to see your baby(ies). It wont be long now

DD2 having an unusually sensitive streak. She cries when strangers look or talk to her. She's normally very confident but I think she is missing big sister and finding the school run a bit unsettling.

I'm going to name Monday as your delivery day AQ - that way I'll always remember as it's dd1s birthday.

I'm also going to hazard a guess at the times; 5pm girl 5.25 boy.

((AQ)) you are definitely following in your Mum's shoes, you dafty, you're already a great mum and about to double that Now to business: I bet Saturday, early in the morning, girl first. Whats the prize for the one who gets closest, btw?!

Jabber, IME counselling of any sort brings all the worst stuff out into the open to start with..before it can get better, IYSWIM. Hang in there, if dh can get the cr*ppy attitudes out, honestly, now, you stand a chance of him changing them. If they were all hidden away, you wouldn't. Good that you're getting some support for you in there, too. How are the dss?

dd2 also going through a hiding-from-strangers phase, and a scared-of-bees-spiders-loud noises-the world phase. Very frustrating when I take her to nice outdoor places and she wails to be picked up and carried the whole time

I think the school thing has unsettled her, too - that and/or teeth again. dd1 OTOH is soo happy this week: you were all right about school and them getting used to it.

I reckon she's had them during the night.

I'm not on here to check btw . I am in fact on here to use the luxury family hotel discount thingy again

AQ just count yourself lucky and you have far more chance of being a great mum (which you are anyway) because of such good role models. It's poor sods like me that don't stand a chance!!!

I'm not checking either, honest

me either

neither - dreadful grammar

Good morning ladies! I've turned into a terrible lurker, logging in every day to see if AQ's DTs are here, but not adding anything.

I wondered if any of your LOs are "Mummy's Boys" (or Girls)? DS has been stuck to me like Velcro for almost two months and WILL NOT go to DP. Apparently he's fine when I'm not there (DP has DS on Wednesdays while I'm at work) but as soon as I appear he only wants me, and will walk round DP to get to me if he's upset. I don't mind (who would, he's super cute?? Reminder, will need to upload photos of DS in kilt) but it's really getting to DP. He got all upset this morning, saying he's lost all his confidence with DS and doesn't know what to do with him. I can't make him go to his dad, if I do it just makes things worse. I guess he's just exerting his independence, but any suggestions what I can do to make DP feel better?

Gloria. DD1 used to be a real Daddy's girl and it used to break my heart. She has gradually reverted to me. DD2 always wanted me more than Daddy but seems to be going more to him now. There really isnt much you can do other than give lots of time for just them (it will mean you get a break too )

You sprogged yet AQ?

3 months! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ds was up about 6 times during the night, no idea why, just wanted a cuddle the rotter. After a few times just wanting a cuddle isn't cute anymore! He then slept from around 4.30 til 10am! Just put him down for a nap, You know those times when you know there is something not quite right but have no idea what? Oh well, it shall pass soon enough.

The men and houswork thing is very odd isn't it. While I was doing my finals dh did do a lot, but it was sporadic and involved my losing my temper and having major rants every few weeks about how I could not actually do all the sodding housework and go to lectures and pass my exams and look after ds when he wasn't at creche. When I was close to finishing he made a comment about how it would be nice when I was done as I'd be more relaxed and he wouldn't have to do so much around the house.

At that point he was cooking pretty much all the evening meals, hoovering maybe once a fortnight, washing up in the evening and hanging washing if I reminded him that there was a load about to finish when I went up to study. Now he cooks maybe 3 times a week and that is all. And he loves cooking, it destresses him when he gets home. To be fair to him I only have ds but it would be nice to just see him think for himself once in a while and sweep the bloody kitchen floor after cooking or something!

Jabber I hope things improve, as others have said it is good that these things are coming out. That you are both going really shows your determination to make things work. All you long time married types who quite clearly work bloody hard at it all are a pretty good source of inspiration for us youngsters you know

Nope, not sprogged. You guys aren't even waiting until I haven't posted for 24 hours now! Just bought a labour nightie and stuffed my face at pizza hut with ds2, mum and dp. Do you think that will do the trick?

Mum has been an absolute star again, she's just left me to have my nap and will pick up ds1 from school. Nope, I will never be as self sacrificing and wonderful as her, ever. Far too selfish, really I am.

I am so lucky we've been able to afford a cleaner the last few years as it avoids nearly all the arguments we used to have about housework. DP's really good about spring cleaning type things but the regular stuff he leaves to me largely. I did laugh to myself when I heard him saying he was doing all the housework now (since I got spd) and I was doing just a bit of washing. Um, that would be all the washing and all the cooking still and the dishwasher as well as still helping tidy the mess the ds's make.

Not unless it was a hot hot hot chilli pizza

Not that that did anything for me other than give me dreadful heartburn

Poor you Indith, sounds like you are really going through the mill with DS at the moment. Yay for 10am start though. DD been asleep in the car for 2hrs 10mins and counting - this is the baby who does not nap . Am running out of things I can do whilst sat watching out the window. Commence Mumsnet. Think she is also not quite right as we were up a few times last night too. Just when you think you have finally cracked the sleeping something else comes along doesn't it.

DH and I just had a tearful debate about how we are tired, mentally exhausted and broke and nothing ready for the baby and so much to do and so on and so forth. Think I am just hormonal but feel like life is passing me by right now whilst I spend every waking moment mummying or helping with his business. Och well, am sure it will get better . Think a few days out with the family are in order. Times like this I wish my family were functional so don't have to rely on DH and his parents for any respite.

DD a Daddy's girl at the moment Gloria - sometimes it gets me, but she used to be so overbearingly clingy with me that actually I'm glad of it now. I spend all day with her and he is only with her briefly by comparison so nice for both of them that they make good use of their time. She used to refuse to let DH hold her at all, so I would leave them alone together as much as possible or be cunning about distracting her when I was passing her over so it was done before she had chance to protest. How times have changed now though! It's me she wants to escape from now! It will likely pass though soon and the next phase will begin...

Nope not waiting, you should be here 24 hours a day dontcha know just to put our minds at rest

your mum sounds like an absolute angel, you should possible consider renting her out to generate extra income.

can I borrow her please?

Hands off Lennied, you can have her once I'm done, I am due before you

Know what you mean about running out of stuff to do. I had a particularly enthusiastic day yesterday and there is no housework to be done at all so I'm just sitting here. Ds and I picked some blackberries this morning from next door's garden but not enough to make a crumble on their own and I've no cooking apples. Hope ds wakes up in time to go to town before his dinner!

You are welcome to my housework if you want it Indith? Am thinking of asking DH for a cleaner for Christmas, that would be my idea of a perfect present. He could wrap her up too if he was feeling that way inclined.

Dammit

You can keep your housework Lennied. I could go hang this washing load that has just finished I suppose.

I'm only checking because I am doing other things on PC Plus I always perk up at the mention of a book ... in the betting sense So, I lost out last time but am thinking tonight at midnight AQ will go into labour (as I did with DD2) and the DTs will be born sometime in the early hours. Whaddya say AQ? Can I win please [needy competitive emoticon]

I think AQ will have her babies Sunday night/Monday morning. Imagine if they have different birthdays (ie just before/after midnight).

Too late Castles, I already bet early Saturday morning

No no, they can't be born Sat, it's dp's birthday! He'll be overshadowed forever by them! Although tbh it's being overshadowed by them already..

My mum will be honoured you're fighting over her, lennied & indith

Gloria, funnily enough ds2 is mummy's boy all week and come the weekend wants only his dad Sad for your dp that he's lost his confidence with ds, I remember dp feeling this way with ds1 for quite a while. Only thing to do by the sound of it is for you to disappear for a few hours over the w/end or for dp to take him out on his own. It is just a phase, of course, dads really come into their own a bit later with boys!

must dash, will login in another hour so no-one panics (yeah, right)

lennied, will mail you

Ds was born 2 days before Dh's birthday AQ, forever overshadowed.

Ds just yells at me all day and then is sweetness and light when dp comes home from work. Can't blame the poor boy, clearly not 100% yet I completely lost my rag with him this afternoon. Doesn't help that he slept so late this morning we missed toddlers so I didn't get my weekly dose of sanity through watching other people deal with their tantruming children!

Yippee for the weekend and leaving Dh to deal with him for a bit.