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December 07 - I'm still standing, yeah, yeah, no!

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Wizzska · 21/07/2008 19:43

Hello people, is anyone there?

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Caz10 · 22/10/2008 22:17

Evening all from the house of tired stressed working mummy - HATING IT!!!

DD is a joy although hard work with teeth, crawling, destructive tendancies...but giggling and laughing and chatting all the time, so cute!!

Insy so excited for you - mildly jealous but not enough to get broody ha ha!

Still bf-ing here too, also torn - it's tiring and her sleep is awful, but it's such a lovely bonding thing when I come home from work and I'll be damned if I am boiling kettles for bottles at 3am when I can just whip out my boob!

Arcadie I think that is a v good and not stingy at all idea!

Still marking so will get off but just wanted to say helllooooooooooooooo I am missing you all v much! Hope all dcs are well!

Witchka · 23/10/2008 09:58

Caz - I find it knackering working and finding time to spend with ds and my job isn't very stressful. It's not as if people are falling over themselves to spend 20 grand on an oil painting at the moment. So I feel for you people with lots of work on.

Arcadie - it's a great idea getting people to buy classes instead of presents. I'd be delighted to spend my money on a present that was useful rather than some pointless doll that will end up with hair pulled out in the bottom of the toy box.

insywinsyspider · 23/10/2008 19:39

Arcadie - I don't think thats a bad idea for xmas pressies at all, sell it to people by saying you want them to get them an 'experience' that will last throughout the year rather, peopel love getting racing days etc I don't think your idea is any different.
what is dd's name?

my work up date is I'm 'allowed' to try taking some mondays as annual leave for 3 months and my line manager will review it, going to have to work my arse off to show it works but at least I can try and prove myself, I don't even report to him on a day to day basis so its not actually going to affect him anyway! Also spoke to other lady at work that does it and she was great, said I could just her as a precedent and since she is same grade as my line manager he should speak to her about how she makes it work which is also great ammunition.

skid - its not a change to my flexible working its when I can take my annual leave, dh and I want to take alternate mondays so boys only in childcare 3 days a week. I can't work from home as I work in computer simulation and I can't get a secure data connection to work - can't do it over internet it would have to be a cable

On pg front, taken all your great advice and decided it is acceptable to wait until pg is 'safe', with ds1 I had a dating scan at 8wks and told him then, ds2 was threatened miscarriage till all clear at 18 wks so I didn't tell him till them, if I don't have any bleeding this time (fingers firmly crossed and its all good so far) then I'm booking a private scan at 8wks and if looks good I'll tell him then, I'd like to wait till 12 wks but I think thats a bit close to my return to work and he won't have 'dealt' with it by the time I get back

caz - sorry to hear work is awful - are you full time? do you have any options to work less hours? and completely know what you mean about night time bf's so so much easier!

Arcadie · 23/10/2008 23:09

Insy DD is Imogen. We'd never met another child called it. Thought it was desperately original. Enrolled her in DS's nursery to find that she'd Imogen D as opposed to Imogen B and Imogen S. (although a little bit and )

BOOkleSpookle · 25/10/2008 22:52

Hi all, how is everyone? Have just read through everything since I last posted and I did not realise I had been away so long! It has been a hectic few weeks and I just never seem to have any time anymore, it is a little calmer today but I suspect it may be the eye in the storm with all things seasonal approaching!

Evie seems to be getting cuter by the day although she is ill again with another cold , it is the third she has had in 5 weeks! Tonight she is really really hot though which I don't like, am terrified she will be prone to convulsions like DS2 was as a baby although DS1 was fine so fingers crossed. On Monday she was playing with a little boy whose brother came down with chicken pox the following day so am really hoping she has not caught that although it would explain the new cold and today's high temp. She now waves, claps and dances on demand and seems to be using word sounds in context occasionally (Mum, Dad, ses (yes), tat (cat), dat (when asked "what've you got?") and today we had "wossiss" when holding something out). Still no joy with formula and due to struggling milk supplies (although still persevering) HV suggested giving her cows milk. She said as long as DD was getting a balanced diet it is fine from 6 months, I have been giving her some in the daytime and she will drink a bit from me but she takes quite a lot from DH on nights when I am at work so that is a relief, at least she won't starve when I eventually stop feeding!

I am amazed to hear so many of you talking about PND, it really is an awful thing. I can identify with so much of what you have all said, I recognise many of those feelings and am so so thankful that I dealt with them before they got too bad. I have also realised that my feelings of anxiety (and my OCD) will probably never completely go but if I can keep a check on them and notice when they begin to spiral beyond my control then I will be fine.

Suey, I am glad you are beginning to feel better and I hope that your DH continues to give you the support you need, it's sounds as though you reached a very low point. I also agree with others who link low milk with low mood, I notice I am more cheerful when my supply is up and lower when it is down.

Skid, how are things with your brother now? Glad DD's birthday was good, am sure she will love her doll's house once the pink tat all breaks! Bless her taking her birthday card to bed though, I love that age! I have also noticed teeth marks from DD's top teeth when she has been feeding lately so you're not the only one! You have my sympathies on your work situation, times are scary and I guess you have to cling to whatever job you can, glad your DH has found a bit though!

Louise, yay for your DD crawling! Evie definitely slept more when she started crawling, they wear themselves out I think! As for having another baby, only you can decide that. There is no 'right' age gap to have! I would definitely speak to someone about your feelings about the birth as it will help you whether you decide to have another baby or not.

Clairey, I am at your DS climbing from his highchair! I often leave DD while I pop to the kitchen for more food... Well done for his walking though, that's fab (and lol at BOOB BOOB BOOB!).

Clara, sounds like everything is manic for you at the moment!

Insy, yay! Congrats to you! I lost my first pregnancy and in all others experienced bleeding so have always told my bosses immediately I found out but asked them to keep it a secret from everyone else, would this be an option for you? It was very useful when I needed time off for emergency scans when I bled or to rest and also when I miscarried before having DD they were very understanding about the time off with no notice. As for names, if DD had been my 3rd boy we loved Arthur and George, not particularly unusual though!

Melly, sorry going back to work has been so awful for you, it is so so hard to leave them isn't it? Bless Kaesha hugging and kissing everything! I too find that I never get anything done. The to-do list is always longer than the time available to do it all (hence the increasingly sporadic posting on here). My fridge, however, is always full thanks to online shopping from Tesco, I usually get a code for money off from another thread on here each week too so that usually saves me the delivery and sometimes a bit more. Will post a link to it if you're interested?

BT, welcome back from Spain, glad you had a good time! You need to forget about the crap things you feel you did when DS was small, I doubt they really were crap at all they just feel that way to you. I was very much like that with DS1 but I was also fairly isolated (like you were), once I managed to get out and talk to other mothers I discovered that much of the stuff I was beating myself up about was the same for them too. Besides, there is nothing you can do about the past so don't waste time worrying about what you might not have done perfectly when you could be spending it with your gorgeous DS making his present great! (note to self, must listen to own advice...)

Ambi, yay for Lou's tooth and her lovely chattering! Evie will say "ap" or "bap" to me in answer to everything when we chat - so so cute!

Anyway, apologies for the essay! Hi to everyone I haven't mentioned, must go wake Evie for another dose of medicine xxx

BouncingTurtleSkulls · 26/10/2008 11:17

Hi Beckle!! Good to hear from you!

I think one of my HVs said that babies can get up to 20 colds in their first year!
Sorry to hear that Evie is so miserable with it though! But am impressed with her verbal skills, DS is just about managing Mum-mum and Da-Da occasionally but that's it. Though if you cuddle him and say "ahhhh" he copies you, so cute!
He is now standing unaided for longer than a couple of seconds, usually when he is distracted - I had him standing in the kitchen and he was transfixed by the washing machine, let go and he carried on standing, for about 10 seconds and then sat down!
Hope everyone is having a good weekend, and that you remembered to put your clocks back - no extra hour in bed though the babies just get up earlier lol.

suey2 · 27/10/2008 10:54

hello all,
Back at work today, but with more rest breaks etc.

Caz10- sorry it's difficult- it took me 2 months to sttle properly back into work.

Arcadie- the course present sounds like an excellent idea.

Hi beckle! I am much better, thanks. I am starting to feel the love again IYKWIM

BouncingTurtleSkulls · 27/10/2008 14:14

Hi Suey2 - Hope you are taking your breaks.
Good to see you back at work, just take it easy

mellymooks · 27/10/2008 15:27

Hi everyone.
Wow Beckle on your impressive post!!
Thanks for the offer on the Tesco thread but am trying to save even more cash at the mo by going to Lidl and doing big monthly shop - seems to be working so far....
Am still hating work, had my first "live" couple of days back with the public and really struggled to hear what people were saying, at one point there was me, the customer and another memeber of staff "translating" what they were sayign it's riducluous and so stressful, I feel really inadequate, I really hope I get a date soon for the op it's really strating to get me down living this half life and missing out on so many conversations, thank goodness Kaesha is loud - I never miss what she's babbling!
Kaesha had cold and fever last week too - seems to be a lot around, she didn't eat much and slept alot (but only in the day!!) but is fine again now.
Sending everyone virtual hugs

mellymooks · 27/10/2008 15:28

God sorry for awful typing!!

BOOkleSpookle · 27/10/2008 15:58

BT, up to 20 colds! Lets hope she doesn't try and rise to that one! Don't be too impressed with Evie's vocal skills, she only does it when she feels like it!

Suey, glad you are feeling much better and I know just what you mean about feeling the love, so much easier now the anxious feelings are not getting in the way.

Melly, well done you with the big monthly shop! I do Tesco cos I work there so get discount, find I spend less online as I don't see all the bargains around the shop! Evie is also not sleeping well at night with her cold and is off her food - her new game is to reach for the food/drink like she really wants it, look at me, put her arm over the side of the highchair and drop it! Little madam! Sounds like work is a bit of a nightmare, hope your appt comes through soon!

suey2 · 27/10/2008 17:20

hi bt!
my FIL (retired paediatrician) told me that you should aspire to 12 colds in the first year so they develop their immune system. DD is certainly on course for that!

BOOkleSpookle · 27/10/2008 22:53

So is mine!

BouncingTurtleSkulls · 28/10/2008 08:56

DS seems to have a permanent snotty nose!

Arcadie (and anyone else who might have some thoughts) would you mind having a look at this thread I have started about me possibly giving up work?

Arcadie · 28/10/2008 15:04

Slightly concerned to note that Spooks has outed me as a leader of the Russian FSB.... ho hum. Anyone else watch it?

And BT(s) I'll ask hubby about all the benefits and stuff. Personal reaction is go for it girl- you'll never regret the time with your kids. But then I haven't actually finished working yet....

suey2 · 28/10/2008 17:38

oh anyone with pnd or anxiety / depression and on cerazette? Check out the cerazette thread- very interesting reading

skidaddle · 29/10/2008 08:59

suey - I saw that thread back in February and threw the mini pills my GP had given me in the bin as a result. I wish I'd mentioned it on gere now. The number of people who have become depressed after taking cerazette is staggering - I hope something can be done. Are you/were you taking it as well? It annoys me how the mini-pillis chucked at all BF mothers as a default when the side-effects are so commonplace. Do you have an alternative form of contraception?

BT - read your thread and I completely agree with your DH, especially as you aren't enjoying work. Does the idea of being with DS all day make you happy? If so, absolutely go for it!

melly- that sounds awful, you poor thing - I hope you get your operation soon

beckle [applause for epic post] - glad DD is taking some milk from DH at least - it sounds like she's a bit of a boob-addict, same as my DS. I want to stop BF when he is 12 months but I don't know how on earth I'm going to do it. He bit and drew blood the other day and I feel like I've had enough now (although I'm sure I'll be heartbroken when I actually do it!). Don't know how to stop without traumatising him though...

Things with my brother are OK I think, thanks for asking, although haven't actually spoken to him since but that isn't unusual. We will see them in a couple of weeks so hopefully we can all put it behind us.

Arcadie - I love the name Imogen but you're right there are a surprising number even though you would never think of it as a popular name. Complete guess at your DS's crazy Biblical name - is it Ezra?

suey2 · 29/10/2008 10:04

hey all,
yes, skid, i have been on cerazette since dd was a month old. Seeing GP tomorrow and i will ask to go back onto my previous pill (now i've stopped BF) which i know is ok for me. Was tempted to stop taking it today, but DH persuaded me to check with the gp first.

LOL arcadie- just watched spooks last night!

claraquitetirednow · 29/10/2008 13:59

Hi everyone, have tried to keep up but only really managed to scan through all the messages since I last posted a couple of weeks ago.

We're back in Blighty now, which is quite a relief. Had a lovely holiday in Thailand, the resort (Sunwing in Phuket if anyone is ever thinking of going that way...) was really good, very baby/child friendly with lots of pools, some of them shallow enough for dd2 to run around in her float...so she was a happy little thing. Dd1 also loved the pools and dh and I were happy as we both love Thai food!

It was sad leaving Islamabad but in the end I think it was just becoming too dangerous/restrictive. We're now staying with my folks until we move this Saturday into a farm cottage until we can get back into our house in Cheltenham in January. Dd2 has reacted well to the move (although she got gastroentiritis on our last day in Thailand and threw up over both of us on the long flight home...), but dd1 is pretty disturbed and now refusing to sleep anywhere but in bed with me. Unfortunately I don't think she will settle until we do so a few weeks if not months to go....

Skid - happy birthday to your dd, glad to hear she had a good day. Sorry to hear about your problems with moving down to Oxford, it sounds like a nightmare. I hope you get something sorted out.

Suey - interesting to hear what you said about the mini-pill. I went on it last time round but decided against it this time as I hated the fact you had to take it at the same time every day. I hope you are feeling a lot better in yourself now.

Arcadie - I really liked the name Imogen too and it was on our list but vetoed by my DH. It's such a pretty name and I think it was quite unusual but one of those names which gets "passed on" quickly as people like it but don't think it's common! We have the same thing with Martha - I thought it wasn't that common but it keeps popping up everywhere now!

Insy - dd2 would have been William if a boy, which isn't much help to you! Other names I like are Huey and Eddie but those probably aren't unusual enough! If not Casper how about Jasper?

Hello everyone else!

claraquitetirednow · 29/10/2008 14:00

ps it's great to be back on the same time zone as everyone else - I always found I was posting in the middle of your night which was a bit depressing!

mellymooks · 29/10/2008 14:35

Welcome back to the UK Clara, glad you had a lovely holiday sounds gorgeous. I'm not far from you as I live in Stroud!

Went to see the Doc yesterday and he's signed me off work for a month, hopefully the op date will come through in that time and I can just get it all sorted and then hopefully get on with my life without having to start every sentence, "I'm sorry, what did you say......?!"

Talking about names we loved so many "m" names but just couldn't have one as both my partner and I both have names starting with "M" and every time we would try out one it would just sound too american sitcom if you know what I mean!

Freezy cold here today, Kaesha crashed out in the pram, swear it's cause she's in her huge cosy snowsuit for first time and is just so toasty and cosy she sleeping away - am very jealous!!

BouncingTurtleSkulls · 29/10/2008 14:56

Welcome back Claraq!

Aw bless at your dd ini heer snowsuit, Melly!
I was toying with the idea of getting another on, but I can't imagine trying to get is on ds, I'd have better luck with the cat! He is just so wriggly does not like having even his coat put on!

I had a look over that cerazette thread, and I was shocked! Think your DH is right though Suey you need to go to your GP first.

Witchka · 29/10/2008 16:16

Melly - I was in Stroud at the weekend. I grew up there and my mum still lives there. Small world.

Welcome back Clara.

DS took two steps yesterday afternoon. I think he'll take a while before he gives up crawling though, he bombs about the place so quickly so I can't see a reason for him to try to totter about.

mellymooks · 30/10/2008 11:28

Witchka - wow it's crazy eh? We moved here about year and half ago, absolutely love it so much beauty all around we keep finding new places to explore.

Bouncing - it is a battle to get her in it as she too is a wriggly jiggly but it's quite big so that makes it easier! She absolutely refuses to wear hat or socks though so it's the easiest way I can keep her snug!!

K hovers more and more but no steps yet. Her Nanny just got her a push along pushchair so she's loving that but gets very cross when she reaches dead end and can't turn around!

Arcadie · 30/10/2008 20:12

Hi Girls ( and Laydeeees for those of you offended by the idea of still being a girl). From reading up - glad I've never gone near Cerazette. Sadly I'm not allowed anywhere near the pill due to migraines.( Something to do with a higher risk of strokes but you medics on the thread will tell me more) had a lovely conversation with young enough to be my son delightful young GP today. Item one ? get inhalers. Item two ? get Diprobase for DS?s eczema. Item three ? book DH his vasectomy appointment! DH less than impressed when I told him this evening. FTRecord we have discussed it obviously, but I think it?d been mentally filed under ?things she?ll have to seriously badger me about before I?ll sign up to it.

Skid I vaguely remember being mates on FB ? you can view DS on there and chuckle at his silly first name!

Melly & Wizz exciting about the walking / nearly walking. Can?t believe they?re all growing up so fast. Seems like yesterday I brought DD home from hospital.

In fact it?s getting to that cold snap time of year that I was very pregnant in last year and 2 years before and it?s feeling very weird not being pregnant.

Caz10 that you?re hating work. Have nothing helpful to say to make it better but lots of sympathy.

BT Hubby says you won?t get CTC, you will get Child benefit. (Whoopdee-£16 ?doo). He?s banking on me doing a lot fewer miles when I?m not working and is therefore hoping that the fuel bills will go down lots?.. Hope so. He just found out how much I?m currently being paid post Sept payrise and is re-thinking me quitting work?