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April 2008 - the one where Scorpio and Millie show us all the 'through the night' trick

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Scampmum · 18/06/2008 14:00

Sorry if someone else has already started one - couldn't find it!

Much better night last night, maybe due to gripe water?

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VictorianSqualor · 30/06/2008 11:40

I hadn't lost much weight at all, so am effectively 'on a diet' but not a major one.
Just replacing bad food with good food, cutting out snacks and drinking lots of water.
I lost a couple of pounds immediately.

I feel better now. DP took the day off work and let me go back to bed til 11am. I have just had a cup of tea and am ready to face the world.

eva07 · 30/06/2008 12:05

ooooh vs, I even envy you your hangover. I really need to get this expressing business going... am not sure how, though. when do you all express? I'm constantly 'before' next feed.

elli, glad you are back with us again sorry 'bout your DP

scamp, the speed feeding is great, isn't it? nora does it now too, we are done in 20 minutes. but still every 2 hours which sometimes is really a PITA. everything we do outside the house needs very precise timing.

loosing weight is one of my next big issues. especially as DP decided he didn't want to be the 'P' anymore but my 'H'
but it's really hard. häägen dasz is the love of my live... (ASDA has it on sale now )

Mum2BabyRoo · 30/06/2008 12:16

Congrats Eva!! And put the Hagen Daz down - remember it will still be there to eat after you get married! Says me who finds good food very boring right now and loves the bad stuff!

Mum2BabyRoo · 30/06/2008 12:20

Oh and speaking of drinking - I'm not much of a drinker - haven't been for years - was a wild child that just seem to grow out of it. However since having a child, there is nothing nicer than a glass or 2 of wine EVERY evening!

eva07 · 30/06/2008 12:28

thanks M2BR
(puts down half eaten box of ice)
wanted to tell you: we've been to an osteopath too (forceps birth) and we were astonished how beautifully she settled afterwards

VictorianSqualor · 30/06/2008 12:29

Congrats eva!!!
Another wedding for this thread then eh?

Mum2BabyRoo · 30/06/2008 12:35

Eva - have to say that since we went to the Cranio G has been so much more settled - a def. improvement. Goes to sleep much easier and she is not a niggly. Her neck must have been giving her grief - poor little thing.

eva07 · 30/06/2008 12:35

but we don't know when yet. probably during the austrian half term holidays next year as we will 'do it' here in cardiff and want my parents to join us (both teachers)

sagitta · 30/06/2008 13:33

Congratulations Eva!

My good mood has evaporated a bit as I can't get A to sleep. Again. And like Scamp I had a bit of a long night of it. Again. I am wondering if she's grown out of the moses basket and crib. Does anyone have one of those pop up travel cot things? Its about the only other thing that will fit in our room, but I seem to remember it said on the instructions (long since lost) that it wasn't suitable for a baby every night. Is that true, and if so, why? Does anyone know?

LadyBee · 30/06/2008 13:36

How lovely Eva - we'll be all gooey and romantic for the next year then, Nicey, you and hopefully me too (we've been engaged since Jan last year & were going to be married in April this year but DS's arrival sort of jumped to the head of the queue - I've just managed to get the topic back into the discussion and we're hoping for June next year)

Mum2BR - I WANT to drink a glass or two every evening but OH isn't really a wine drinker and I feel a bit odd opening the bottle just for me. Still, he is the one that keeps buying crates of wine. Maybe he secretly wants the encouragement?

Expressing times are a bit of nightmare for me at the moment - I used to do it in the early morning after he'd fed on one side I'd express the other. Now he's sleeping til 6:30-6:45 most days and waking up more hungry so taking both sides. Days where he's missed the late evening feed altogether I'll express then, or I'll wake up engorged and express hoping that it'll be another hour before he wakes.
I know that your breasts make more milk to replace whatever gets taken but DS reaction makes me think it doesn't happen instantaneously (how can it - there must be some lapse between your body registering the lack and gearing up to produce more??) as he does seem frustrated if there isn't the usual big gulping drink he gets normally.
I was thinking about trying to do it regularly as soon he's goes down for his big nap, but that feels like just one more thing to squeeze in.
I always feel like the starter's gun has gone off the moment he goes down - and she's off, makes her lunch, tidies up the kitchen, dishwasher on, can she get a load of laundry underway and the other one out on the line? mumsnet while chewing, quick internet shop/email check, racks brain to try to remember what time he went down and how long he might sleep for, looks in despair at piles of summer/winter/maternity clothes she's been trying to sort into/out of boxes for storing, decides to clean bathroom instead (faster and more likely to be completed), packs bag for afternoon trip to baby clinic and mentally rehearses plan for getting there on time (feed, then change, then babycarrier on bus? or change, then feed, then stroll with pram? either way it'll screw up his napping)...oops - there he goes. Times up.

...anyone else?

Scamp, actually I did read during my pregnancy but ONLY stuff about being pregnant. And I actually have read whole books about babies since then. I don't count those, they're just part of the obsessive preoccupation with all things baby. I started but didn't finish about three novels and still haven't managed to find anything non-baby-related at all interesting. I think I'm just going to have to acknowledge it and find a novel that has baby/mum stuff in it - and then gradually wean myself off them. Haven't tried reading with the breastfeeding pillow - am normally doing one-handed internetting. I did do the reading thing yesterday when doing the evening settle and that was great..although not so great for my eyes as his room is actually quite dark and I was too scared to flick the lamp on.
He settled at 8:30 all by himself after some quite energetic kicking.

I think I've got a dependency problem with my BF cushion - it's so good for us at home that I think it might be why he doesn't feed so well when we're out. I don't really know how to support him, my arms & back get tired, he seems uncomfortable. should I feed without it more often at home?

sagitta · 30/06/2008 13:43

LadyBee - that describes it perfectly - well I think of all those things to do, and either A wakes up or I decide to go for a nap - and so that just races round in my head - and nothing is done!

But I am getting some reading done while BF. I was n really crap novels, but I just read such a bad one I've had to move back to normal reading. But only about a page a day. Which I have to reread the next day because I've forgotten it

VictorianSqualor · 30/06/2008 13:49

LadyBee there is no lapse as your body is constantly making milk, what does happen is when the baby sucks your body makes milk a lot faster to replace what is going out.

eva07 · 30/06/2008 14:03

vs, so she will still get enough milk if I express let's say 30 min before the next feed?

eva07 · 30/06/2008 14:05

LadyBee and Niceychops - congratulations

LadyBee, you are describing my day!

VictorianSqualor · 30/06/2008 14:45

Yes Eva.
She will more likely get fattier thicker milk if you express before a feed (this is what is known as 'hindmilk' though there is no point when milk actually changes from foremilk to hindmilk.) because that milk comes out slower and therefore towards the end of your feeds not the beginning when the thinner (foremilk) comes out, but there will definitely be milk there and she will be fed fine.

Mum2BabyRoo · 30/06/2008 14:46

Ladybee - you are describing my day too!

eva07 · 30/06/2008 14:54

thanks vs
I can see my first night out approaching

Mum2BabyRoo · 30/06/2008 15:05

Sagitta - we have one of these

KnitterInTheNW · 30/06/2008 15:32

Sagitta - we have one of these pop up travel cots, and I'd have thought it's no good for every night because it only has a thin air mattress, therefore not as much support as a proper matress?

You might all want to throw things at me now... George has been going down at around 9, sometimes needs his dummy put back in once or twice during the night if he stirs and can't settle himself but not always, then wakes for a feed at 6 then sleeps til 8! It only happens though if there is no light coming in through the bedroom window, if there is he wakes much more often and needs a feed to get back to sleep. So we have cardboard taped to our bedroom window to black it out while we await the arrival of our baa baa blind.

He was 14 weeks old on Friday, and one of the first born out of this group, and has only just done this over the last week, so you all might get some more sleep soon!

sagitta · 30/06/2008 16:11

Knitter - that's great! Only another seven weeks to go for me then

I can't get one of those co-sleeping things - although they look great - as there's no room next to the bed. Our pop up cot doesn't have an inflatable mattress, but it is a bit hard. Maybe that's why.

KnitterInTheNW · 30/06/2008 16:11

no he doesn't, he has his feed at 5.

I've started expressing before I go to bed, it's working quite well in that the amounts I'm getting seem to be little bit more each day so I have a reasonable amount in the freezer now. I'm planning on leaving him at home with DH on Wed eve while I go to my knit & natter group - he's been with me each time so far. And I've been invited to a candle party in a couple of weeks too, I don't use candles but it'll be nice to get out of the house!

KnitterInTheNW · 30/06/2008 16:14

Sagitta, maybe you could do what we've been doing when we go to stay at my parents' house, he's been sleeping in one of the drawers from under their bed with a sun lounger cushion as a mattress! We need to take the travel cot next time because his head and toes were practically touching the sides, but it worked really well!

Sal22 · 30/06/2008 16:31

Hi. Just came back from quite a leisurely morning - it gets so much easier once they're a little older, don't it? (Before it gets worse I guess, but at least enjoying it while it lasts!) We had our last baby massage class today, and Roelof really enjoyed it - for the first time ever actually happy to lie/sit through the whole thing. Then went for lunch (ok, coffee and choc cake...) with some of the girls at the class, and then just stolled through some shops seeing if anything half decent available in the sales here(just can't be bothered to go to Oxford St right now). On the way back R got really hungry, so sat down on the heath feeding him - was really lovely.

Still so jealous of all the babies sleeping through - R wakes around 3am every single night now, and then again at around 5/6 and so on. He goes to be at around 8, so if I could only get him to extend that first stretch it would be absolutely brilliant. It's our own fault for being tired though, as we tend to stay up until 11/12-ish just to have some kind of evening together, but it's getting a bit hard, so I think we should try and just go to be earlier ourselves until he can sleep till later. I guess you should really just use your common sense, but I've bought the "Baby Whisperer" book and as soon as it arrives I'm going to try and follow it for a bit.

KnitterInTheNW · 30/06/2008 16:41

Sal, a few weeks ago Geoerge was waking at 1, 4 and 7. He suddenly dropped the 1am one and was waking at 3 and 6. Then suddenly again dropped the 3am one too. We did nothing different, it just happened when he was ready.

Oh nice, I was typing that while George was having a nappy free kick and now I have a wee'd on leg. Serves me right for not paying attention!

Mollyfloss · 30/06/2008 17:34

Hello!!!!! I'm back! Shame on me for not being on here for so long. So much going on. Turns out LO has silent reflux (basically heartburn) for those of you who saw my thread when I didn't know why she was coming on and off the breast screaming. Anyway, she is now taking a tiny bit of zantac and it is working like a dream. I was also in Ireland for the wedding etc. The bridesmaid dress fitted perfectly - actually it was ever so slightly big but not big enough to bother getting it taken in, just got the hem taken up. We had a little holiday after the wedding in the southwest of Ireland. LO's routine (if ever she had one) went to pot but then she's doing her own thing and pretty much sleeping nights so who am I to force a routine on such a good little baby I doubt that I will ever manage to catch up on all the posts. Is there anything I should know?