March08 mums- tummy and teething troubles!

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new thread for Merry...

Sounds awful - no knowledge about the thrush thing but your gp sounds pathetic. Look on the bf threads here, they may have something practical you can do.

Shame on your DH - why did he have to tell you that his mum was lecturing him. Sometimes you just have to learn to keep things to yourself, or more importantly stick up for you.

You are NOT A SHIT MUM, you are unwell and not getting support.

Does it help knowing its the weekend and that DH will be around more. Maybe when you are feeling as calm as possible, explain/write down when you expect LO to need a feed/sleep etc, so you can have a break and relax.

Hope you get some decent sleep, x

mrsP-he works from home and is always around but very rarely "here." I wrote down everything this afternoon and he still didn't listen. Have had some good advice on the BF boards...just have to bite the bullet and shell out for tablets in the morning.
Thank you all for listening. I promise to stop complaining here.

You need to let it out somewhere, so why not here?

But I know what you mean, I've been having some pretty low days, and feel that if I can't say something nice I should just keep quiet.

I'm off for a bath and an early night, hope you feel better tomorrow.

((TURTLE)) you do not have to shell out for the tablets, what utter bollocks i had it prescribed for me when i had thrush with ds2, go back and see a diff gp or DEMAND the medicine, take info of internet, from a bfeeding counsellor etc and INSIST on getting it on prescription.

as for your dh.......

and complain away that is what they are here for, you should read my posts on bmc today all i have done is complain, i have pnd and dp has been crap, the boys drove me to the brink this afternoon..... but i feel better for sitting and getting it out.

I have, 4madboys...the ductal thrush treatment is 400 mg(2.5 tablets) followed by 10 days of tablets. Am waiting for a leaflet from some kind MNer to try again, but as it isn't licensed for BF mums they're under no obligation to prescribe.

turtle: try another gp at your surgery, or go to out of hours or a and e or something that is too much money to shell out

dont worry about complaining its tough on us all sometimes, and you have had a rough ride

Could lie and say I have stopped B, I suppose, but they are unwilling to give me even one tablet as I am BF. And she said she'd prescribe 1 as "it's probably only nipple thrush and really the cream should do it." She doesn't hear me scream with letdown. It is searing pain to my armpits, shoulders and what feels like the centre of my body.

BF, that is. not B

Thank you lovely kind ladies. I am going to try and get some sleep before i crack. XX

big hugs turtle

turtle, 4MB and MrsP, {{{great big hugs}}} and a pair of rusty scissors for your DH turtle... . No, not rusty scissors, how about nipple clamps?

Had v good chat with LLL lady last night and feel better equipped to face dr again monday. Happy wknd everyone

Hope you are feeling better turtle. I can't believe you are still bfing!!! You must be made of pretty strong stuff.

LFTS-Thanks. I still take it hour by hour. I'm stubborn, I guess.

While on the bus this morning, I overheard a discussion between two old dears about the best technique for removing upper lip hair. Shaving vs waxing!! They were doing very loud stage whispers - twas quite amusing. I would opt for waxing myself but might be difficult with wrinkles.

I'm very tired today, and really quite bored, in a shoulder shrugging, teenage kind of way. Really need to cheer up, but just want to sleep.

Turtle - have you been able to speak to your dh, does he appreciate that you need at least some support?

turtle - sorry to hear you're having a tough time, good luck at the doctors on Monday.

Hope everyone else is well.

With LO reaching 13 weeks we'd had a couple of good days with him which lulled as into thinking we had 'turned a corner'.....but no! The last four days, he has been inconsolable when he gets tired during the day, but just refuses to go to sleep. This morning he spent two hours screaming his head off and only fell asleep through sheer exhaustion from all the crying The rest of this afternoon he's literally not spent more than 5 minutes awake when he's not been crying. Going out for a walk with the pram used to be a sure fire way of getting him to sleep but even that's not working..

He is going down at night thank goodness, but I am at a total loss about what to do with him during the day.

Hope you don't mind me also venting a bit of frustration, but I am really struggling to enjoy any part of being a mum at the moment I met a friend who had a baby a few weeks ago, and he just eats, sleeps and poos, is very content, and she is loving being a mum - it just really made me sad and feel a really sh*t mum who still can't content her baby after 3 months.

Sorry for the moan, but DH is working today and tomorrow and has a night out tonight, so I really need to get it off my chest.

After my struggle to keep going with BF, it really makes me wonder if moving him onto formula would fill him up more and help him sleep better and generally be more content. Has anyone else moved from bf to ff and found any difference?

(((monthlymahem))) sounds a nightmare, ds4 has been like this at times and i do have to be honest and say that yes putting him on formula (at 9wks) did make a HUGE difference he now has a big sleep in the morning and the afternoon and then one little one after dinner, he is a very happy content and placid baby, maybe thats just his personality? but the first nine weeks were hellish and it is much easier now he has bottlefed.

i bfed all the elder three, ds2 and ds3 until they were three years old, so bottlefeeding was not a decision i took lightly, but it has saved my sanity and tho i still have pnd i am now enjoying ds4, whereas before i felt like throwing him against a wall at times horrible but they really do push you to the limit at times.

he can still be a bit of a pain to get to sleep but generally if i take him to bed and lie with him he will doze off or i put him in the pram and take him for a walk, or stick him in the sling. today we were at a party and dp just held him and he fell asleep and had a nap on dp's lap for an hour and it was MADNESS with a huge bouncy castle and thirty plus kids running around, yet he still slept he would NEVER have done that before.

anyhow he is currently filling his nappy for me (bleurgh) i certainly prefer bfed poo to formula, but he does only poo once a day now, its just gross when he does... best be off to change him.

Big hugs for everyone struggling, it can be so trying! On the whole DD is good but she seems really grumpy at the moment, not sleeping enough and is crying way more than before. Hoping it's a phase as I don't deal with it very well, need to work on not getting so frustrated when I can't calm her down I think.

DP is away for the night tonight so am chilling out at home with a glass of wine and Dr Who

turtle & monthlymahem - big hugs ladies,sorry your having a rubbish time but it does get better. i hope you both get everything sorted soon.

monthlymahem - i cnat really help with the moving to ff thing, i only bf my dd1 for 10 days and dd2&3 for 24 hrs. with dd1 i changed because i was finding it very painful and completly knackering. she did sleep better and so did i but as i only bf for such a short time i dont know if that was the reason.

i think all the ladies on here who are sticking with the bf are fab i remember how hard it is. (ff mummies are also fab, just in case anyone gets jealous)

hello all and sorry to hear you're having such a tough time turtlem monthly mahem and all others. THere are definitely good days and bad days here and I think we all just muddle along - here's hoping things improve for everyone soon.
Advice required - has anyone hired or used a ameda egnell double breast pump - does anyone have any thoughts. My ds is very sick but appears to improve if I use a bottle rather than boob so am considering expressing all feeds but my express machine takes a long time and i don't think i've got the stamina, someone recommended a double pump but just wondered if anyone here has any experience of it?
love and hugs to all.

evie- used one in hospital and it was quite good. I find most pumps very painful, but that one was ok.
MM-Poor you! Here..share my bottle of wine and have a chocolate. ((hugs)) Maybe you should buy just one ready-made carton of formula (so you're not commited with a big box) and give it to him just as an experiment. I have tried quite a few times...mine wont touch the stuff unless he's ravenous, and then only takes two ounces. However, in all the nanny/maternity jobs I've had the babies always slepy well and they were all (obviously) FF.

evie - I used one in hospital when DD was in neo-natal and it was fab, so quick and efficient.

MM- you are doing a great job: look, you've been taking care of and growing your LO for 3 whole months now! I don't always enjoy it either, I am still waiting for this "corner" when hopefully it will all fall into place!

I find it really tough too when mums with babies younger than mine talk about how much they are enjoying motherhood. I could hardly move for a couple of weeks afterwards and now have a friend who is up and out at things 1 week after giving birth- jealousy doesn't even describe it!

I've decided though that I just have to take it slowly, at mine and LO's pace and if I don't get out to anything or feel totally out of my depth then that is OK and it will pass. It may take months, but every mom and baby is unique and you will find your own groove soon.

As for feeding, I'm afraid I don't have any answers except that I have a ff grazer who can take around 45min to drink 6oz... so ff doesn't speed anything up for me, but then I have my own feeding issues and feelings! You've done so well to keep bf up to now!

I have to say though that starting a routine with dd has helped us a lot- she responds very well to (flexible) predictability and I think I do too! It's helped sort out her daytime sleeping as well.

Hope this helps.

e14 - what routine are you following? Think that's what I need to aim for.

MMH- I'm using a book called Babywise. Recommended to me by enough friends to give it a go. Uses a feed-wake-sleep cycle.(Is that similar to Baby Whisperer?) Right now we're on a flexible 3-hour schedule during the day.