For the 8th time...............May Babies!

[egypt]

well hello

so, ds is fast asleep; dp's gone to work and i can't keep my eyes open.
off to bed and try to read a bit

ds2's just woken up - cheeks red and a temp of 38C and his gum REALLY swollen. He won't let me touch it to see if it's coming through. He even threw up a little bit this evening after we gave him some calpol.

So here I am, worried as anything and he's downstairs wide awake, grinning and "chatting" to daddy. Oh well, at least he's not listless...

morning! just waiting for the bottle to warm up and lucas is sitting in the lounge and playing - our morning routine
he cried out once at 2.30 but dummy in and back to sleep! but at 5 he started crying and crying and just wouldn't stop anymore - i ended up giving him some tea which he willingly sucked for good 10min, then another 5 min quieter sobbing and finally he settled again
what was THAT about???? maybe a bad dream?
oh well, we managed to sleep till 7 when daddy came home and woke both of us up *hmmmmmmmmm
so, daddy's asleep now and we starting this lovely still dark day

oh and casmie: how's ds2????? these theeth are a real pain - so to speak!
hope they come through really quickly

Still no sign of that rogue tooth this morning (well, you can see the perfect outline of it in white on the gum, but it's not cut through) so it looks like we're in for another rough night tonight.

Ended up last night with calpol, nurofen AND teetha, and putting him to bed in just a babygro (no t-shirt underneath and no covers) before he could happily go to sleep. Woke up with a bit of a shivery lip this morning but temperature is gone which I'm relieved about. Suspect it will be back this evening.

Teething with ds1 was tough, but I don't remember it being this bad and prolonged. With ds1 the really bad ones were the molars - the first four teeth he was maybe grumpy for a day or two, but they came by surprise mostly.

Poor little lucas, Susi - so hard to know what it is before they can communicate, isn't it? I've started this week with rudimentary sign language (eat, drink, more, all gone, cat and dog are our first signs) because I'm getting to the point where I need to know what's wrong!!

grrrrrr them teeth!! whoever invented them, shame on him! - i always say 'can't we have something instead? many creatures don't have teeth and still feed!!'

we are off to signing today again (after a looooong break) and i was not very good lately with signing to lucas! atm we are still on 'milk' and 'eat' - until he shows some signs of recognition.
does actually waving byebye and clapping count as signing???

we went shopping on saturday (mainly for a non slippery bathmat) but i always look out for toys for lucas. atm he is just so into touching and exploring and music! haven't got much yet to help him with that - any ideas?
but they had such a cute little teddy - well, i loved it - showed it to lucas and got a polite smile. then dp showed him a tigger (dp is huge tigger fan) and lucas was laughing and waving and that sealed it! tigger it was
still he gets all excited when he sees his tigger - so funny

and we finally managed to watch 'love actually' - actually () a quite funny movie although a bit confusing in the beginning!
we also watched 'closer' - deff no movie for children!! but quite entertaining, good actors and good storie about relationships.

I completely fell in love with Colin Firth in Love Actually... ended up buying it for myself after all my hints running up to Christmas were completely ignored

Hmm... musical toys. ELC do some nice things - ds2 has got a mini maracca which makes a lovely sound shaken. To be honest though, he just hits anything with anything to make a noise Wooden blocks to bang together?

can i join you in the 'bad night brigade'? actually i dont think it was teeth, think i just put her to bed too early and she was angry at me. both her front 2 teeth are through, the second one only just, but def through. happened without realising really. yesterday she slept for about 3.5+ hours in total which is a lot for her and didnt wake from the afternoon nap until 5 so by 7 wasnt really ready for bed. anyway, she was awake until 915pm. gaawd. screamingm overtired. gave her medised in the end thinking maybe it was teeth and out of desperation. put her in front of wm again! and out like a light.....sobbing in her sleep. bless. we're going to have to get out of this w.m thing but its sooo easy. want to find a sound track of a wm actually if anyone has any! have tried downloading it off net but arent any. anyway, she woke at 12, turned wm on again - straight to sleep. woke 500 and was hungry. i hadnt made a bottle, bad mummy so gave her breast....didnt have much but enough to satisfy but she stayed awake for an hour+ talking and screeching. put her in wm again at 6ish and she woke at 8. sooooooo tired. so is she. NIGHTMARE

i dont know quite what to do but its getting harder to make her sleep in her cot and never does she inthe day. i know, wm is making a rod .... but i am soooo tired. she is grumpy now. best get dressed and take her for a walk. could try cot...best do first i spose.

thinking of you today too cat xxx

I am in the crap nights club too. DD woke at 2,3, 4,5, 6. She is on the fast track to CC at this rate.

omg, what's going on

i somehow reckon it's a growthspurt with lucas - he was hungry at 5am - which he never is!!!

and teeth of course

Another bad night here, but dd nt ds. Although ds did wierdly not want to go to sleep at 7.30, or at 8.30, then by 9.30pm he was overtired, so screamed. I'm afraid after 5 minutes cuddling where he was sucking his thumb and falling asleep in my arms I just left him to it. Fortunately after abot 10 minutes grumbling he put himself to sleep, just in time for dd to wake up with a coughing fit and throw up - which she did twice again in the night!

oh no prufrock! and spots.....they must know something we dont. dd is on the fast track to cc too. decided to do this no cry sleep solution which involves teaching them to fall asleep by themselves by slowly weaning them from being nursed/cuddled to sleep to eventually (through 6 phases) falling asleep independently. only thing is dd wont go to sleep with the first stage of being cuddled! there is no stage which involves putting them in front of w/m. or in it

tried cot this morning for nap - nope. tried w/m - nope. walk in the rain and wind so mummy gets knackered, cold and wet - yes.

God, you lot talk a lot! Three days away and it takes me twenty minutes to catch up...at least the computer works.

Cat82 I've been thinking of you today and hope you get through ok.

Tried to pick up on a few things from your recent chats: I didn't clean dd1's teeth until she was 1 even though she had teeth and she has a lovely set of gnashers now. Leappad - dd1 and dd2 both had them for Christmas. The baby one is FAB, dd2 thinks it's very tasty too. Not sure about Leappad pink for dd1 - she's a very good reader, past year 1 reading books already, so I don't think she gets a lot out of it but the beauty is you can get more advanced stuff so we're going to try her on some 6 - 8 books.

The Helsy family is now moved to a bigger, nicer house and what's more it's OURS. The last one came with my job and we needed a mortgage - no, really. The move itself (Saturday)was quite smooth really, removals men were funny and family helped out a lot so it went quite quickly really.
Dd2 had lots of fun being passed round aunties and cousins.
Dd1 was ok eventually but kept saying things like "mummy, if we hadn't have moved house you would be able to find things now" and "when are we going back home?". She's been playing at friends' houses a lot this week - we owe so many people play dates I'm going to be entertaining five year olds for the next six months.

I was a complete girlie this morning - had the day off, was taking dd2 to nursery so that I could unpack more stuff, and when we were about to leave I found I couldn't lock either the front or the side door on our new house. I tried for an hour in the rain then burst into tears, stormed back into the house and called dh to tell him that I couldn't pick up dd1 from school as I couldn't lock the house and I'd have to give up work because I wouldn't be able to get out of the house in the morning. I'm a lot calmer now but we didn't go to nursery!

DD2 has coped well with the move, had a late feed at 11 last night and didn't wake until 7.15. Still giving her too much milk (three - four bottles) but her food intake is gradually increasing. I'm working my way round to finger foods - she likes squeezing avocado pieces but would only eat it mashed yesterday. She babbles a lot, tries to crawl, bumshuffles, giggles LOADS, and is very good natured but the sleeping is erratic and she's not keen on food.
That's it for now, have to do Tesco online before school pick up. Sorry it's a long one.

So glad I'm not the only one having bad nights - life is TOUGH here! Anyone got a 5 year old as well by any chance?

yep, eight months and just 5.

hi helsy and gorgeous girl . helsy glad the move went well. can you lock your doors now?? are they the sort that you have to lift the handle up before you can lock them?

dd is finally sleeping. her morning nap was only 45 mins and this afternoon i took her out in the car. she has had about half an hour so far. not as much as yesterday but that can only be a good thing after last nights ' not at all tired and dont want to go to sleep EVER ' scenario. and elizabeth pantley says that more sleep in the day is good. between 3-4 hours for 7 months. hmmm, wont be trying that again......or maybe was the teeth.

did u decide on a kitchen casmie?

Just got the quote from MFI, and it was actually more expensive than Wickes - so it's a no-brainer really. Only thing I'm really gutted on is the sink - MFI had a really nice linen effect stainless steel one. The Wickes one is ... well... boring.

Question: can I justify buying a sink separately elsewhere when it'll cost 400quid + ?

Linen effect sink? ROFL! Sorry Casmie... don't mean to be dismissive. funny tho.

Egypt, what do you think of madame la pantleyhose then? I did quite like her on the extract that was posted elsewhere. Did you buy the book? I was rather tempted myself.

I am forbidding myself Mumsnet in the evenings for a while. I have work to do and my tax return and have been putting both off for toolong. DH is helping me forbid myself, by doing application forms and CV type stuff, so there's no way back. Unless I crack at the end of the night, as a nightcap.

That means that if Cat logs on I won't be around to give her a hug so am putting one on ice for her: * {{{}}} * ... it will be warm by the time you get to it Cat.

Pfft spots. It's ace, it's textured stainless steel, so my thought is it might not show up the marks/smears quite so badly (a bit like the priniciple of having a textured carpet).

However, I've found another textured type in the same brand that is more or less the same price as the boring Wickes one here although the image doesn't really show you the surface. So going for that one

don't know what's going on! lucas showed he was tired at 6.30 and dp put him to bed! screamed his head off, dp took him down again. 7.30 i decided it's way too late for that little boy and put him to bed again - started to cry again and his 'mumumumum' shouting! was very diff. but i didn't give in and 30 min later he finally was asleep! if he just was able to tell me what bugs him

casmie: seems like your kitchen is coming together! what color anyways?

egypt: hope your w/m doesn't break down with all that usage lately

helsy: just the thing now what's in which box
and to empty all of them

oh no prufrock: hope your dd is better soon

cat: how are you today? do you need anything?
been thinking of you lots!!! (((((hugs))))

Helsy - How do you cope with the school run - is your dh around in the morning to help? It's the weaning thing that's really taking its toll for me!

morning ladies! (and dads, if any read too) - don't know what's wrong with lucas lately! could it be that he realises what it is to be alone??? - was unusual diff. to put him to bed yday and he woke once at 12.30 crying big tears. had to stand with him for 5min and stroke him and reassure him. he woke again at 5.30 but dummy did the trick that time. and also when i leave the room (dp told me) he starts shouting mumumum mum mum mum and is almost in tears pfffffff - difficult!
aaaaanyways, we are up and lucas is dressed and had his bottle and is brushing his teeth now grins - well, he's playing with it and it goes into his mouth quite alot wink