December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

Cazzy - you're not having much luck lately! What's been done b=about the roof?

I was shopping at my local retail and I suddenly started feeling panicky about money and how we were going to cope until I go back to work... and now I'm thinking about going back to work and realising I really don't want to go back I'm sure I'll get used to the idea soon!

Ohhh I know BT, I am worrying about money all the time but can stop picking up wee bits here and there...a walk out with the pram should be free but then I think I deserve a treat and get myself a take out coffee etc...argh.

Does anyone find they are just worrying all the time?! Not in a serious way, but my mind just SWIMS all the time...if she's feeding, has she had enough? Is she sleeping enough/too much? Should I be interacting more with her when she's awake? Or should I be leaving her alone more? Should she be on her tummy instead of her chair....

etc etc etc until I go slightly mad! I'm not SERIOUSLY worried about any of it, but my mind just races all the time.

cazzy my dd has been sucking/dribbling/hand chomping etc for about 3-4 weeks now, and now that she can lift some toys, if she manages it they go straight in her mouth (unsterilised...hmmmm!). I can see wee white blobs under the gums, but nowt else happening. I forgot to say too, thanks for your input re back to school. Dreading it! Did you express when you went back last time? What class are you going back to?

OK need to walk the dog...am fed up walking if it's not the pram it's the dog and pram, it gets a bit monotonous!

Clara/wobbegong I know exactly what you mean! Problem is too, I keep thinking right I'm going to sort out XYZ and that will make me feel better...then by the time you've fed/changed/played etc the day seems to disappear and you haven't achieved your goal. Also I find I can't concentrate as well as before, lack of sleep i think.

loucee that is fab re DS!!!

BT I know how you feel, that loomed over me when DD was small but once I went back and got a new routine it was fine. Are you going back full time? In saying that, now I have two babies I am glad I am not going back to work just now but will aim to return once they are at school (in the meantime I will be re-training).

Just as well I've decided not to go back if DH is looking at contract work in London, we're still weighing it up at the moment but one possibility would be living in London so who here lives in London and would you recommend your area? Knowing us it wont happen anyway but I need to look into things just in case...

Cazzy sorry you have another problem to deal with, hope it's not too bad and not too expensive either.

Clara you've done really well taking the dummy away at this stage, DS also has a comfort blanket but I'm scared to let him sleep with it, am I still stuck in the newborn phase of not letting anything near their heads when they sleep or are you the same?

can't stop picking them up I mean!

oh glad you said that loucee (crossed posts, sorry!) - DD has a wee comforter thing, like a little blanket with a teddy head, she can hold it and stick it in her mouth but I've been too scared to put it in her basket or pram - do you think it would be ok? She does tend to pull it up to her face

See DS goes fidget fidget waah fidget fidget waah fidet fidget waah waah fidget waah waah waah fidget waaaaah until it is full blown crying if I leave him so I generally get him up at around the fourth or fifth waah rather than listen to all the fidget waahing until he finally starts crying properly! Last night was up 5 times again though, can't wait til he gets over his cough.

Suey I dreamt about you last night, well it was and it wasn't as is usually the case in dreams! There was a little chinese lady called Suey (think I was thinking chop suey-how very pc of me!)and she kept saying in a booming voice "I am 6 foot 4 and Caucasian" over and over again, then she was 6 foot 4 and Caucasian but looked like Miss Trunchbull from Matilda! It was very random and not especially flattering to you-sorry!

Well done Clara on the dummy! DS doesn't have his at night because I wanted to avoid having to put it back in all night, that said I have started trying to offer it before feeding him when he wakes at night now.

Macdoodle that is a great night, well done both of you! I'd like to boast that dd slept 8.30pm to 8.45am on saturday night (the longest ever) but I fear it isn't quite so impressive at 22 months old!

Awen I think being responsive to them does make a difference but a lot is also their personality. DS screamed non stop between 2 and 13 weeks old no matter what I did! He is pretty contented most of the time now though. When he was ill and screamed all day again last week it made me really wonder how on earth I got through those early weeks without killing either myself or him. I wouldn't wish a screaming baby on anyone.

Wobbegong, sorry you are feeling down, hopefully you'll feel brighter soon.

Cazzy what a PITA, hope you don't have to put up with sewage smells for too long.

About sterilising-even with dd (PFB) I only sterilised bottles and dummies. I have never sterilised any toys, spoons, bowls etc and poor ds doesn't even get his dummy sterilised (hmm could that be why he isn't getting over his cold...?)

Has anyone tried to CAT insy to see if she is ok? If not I'll do it

Hi all,

Hope you are all ok - so many posting since I last came on so no chance in me catching up. Been having a 'bad' few days - lots of little things trigger me off and the fact that I have my family to take care of is keeping me going...Really wish I could feel 'normal' again and cope with the ups and down of life..

clairey - love your suey dream - I would venture an interpretation but given that I've never met you it would probably be wrong! Glad you were pleased with the Waterstones voucher - I would expect my DH to get me actual books, and not just that but the exact ones that I was thinking of buying but that I hadn't told him about because he should just KNOW - surely that is reasonable?

clara - well done with the dummy and hope you're feeling a bit happier - i would be utterly stressed in your situation (re moving) if that's any consolation! Also FWIW I think you should be even prouder of yourself for BF this long when you haven't particularly enjoyed it. I didn't really enjoy it with DD for the first few months and used to fantasise about stopping. This time i have been lucky in that i have enjoyed it so it is easy for me to carry on, but I think you should pat yourself on the back for doing what you've done

macdoodle at your DD's sleepin! After a week or so of similar DS is now waking 4 times a night but I think (hope) it is because he has a cold and is therefore temporary

Caz10 - DS has a comfort blanket thing that i let him sleep with him but of course he is a NSB not a PFB so that's not to say it's a good idea!

another teething baby here as well - it goes on so long doesn't it?

Cazzybabs - that house of yours always has something wrong with it!!! Maybe you should move!!

clara (again) never tried any of those videos - i just do lots of sit ups etc although this has made absoluely no difference whatsover so far. I console myself with the certainty that under all the layers of fat I am really toned and attractive!!

wobbegong - yes I often feel trapped and let's face it we are trapped albeit of our own doing. I think it is completely natural to feel this way, and to resent it occasionally. Hope you're feeling a bit brighter today

well done wizz and other weaners - I don't think DS is ready yet but maybe that is because I don't want to admit that my little baby is growing up

Off to Dublin tomorrow to visit the ILs so looking forward to catching up when i get back

No I havent tried Clairey - I always forget about the CAT facility.

Amani sorry to hear you're having some down days. Are you returning to work after maternity leave?

X posts amani - sorry you're still feeling bad. Are you still taking the ADs? maybe seeing someone might help? Have you been offered cognitive behavioural therapy (CBT)or anything like that?

I just tried to contact her Loucee and she doesn't have it set up. Hope she pops back on soon.

Skid venture away with your interpretation-it can't be any more random than my dream! Hope Milo's cold doesn't last as long as ds'-over 3 weeks now . Where are all the antibodies from breastmilk I wonder? they don't seem to be helping him!

Clairey - lol at your dream, it will be funny to see what Suey thinks! I have wierd, random dreams like that too. Last week I dreamt that I was married to Brad Pitt . And well done to your dd for sleeping so well!

Skid - thanks for your words on my BF'ing. I do feel a little pathetic giving up but now she seems to LOVE her formula and the more she has the happier and more settled she seems (although that could be to do with her age etc too), so I am not going to fret too much about it. What is an NSB or PFB? Hope you have a good time in Ireland and that Milo goes back to sleeping through again - perhaps lots of exhausting attention from his grandparents will do the trick?

Loucee/Caz10 - I'm afraid I do let her have the comfort blanket in bed and I have actually gone in there to find it over her head a few times - however, I assume she is now old enough to move it if she couldn't breathe so am not worried TOO much.....

Amani - hope you start to feel better soon. I don't have much to say except I am thinking of you.

Amani - you're doing great keeping going when you feel so sh1t. Well done you - hope you feel better soon.

Tried DS on the babyrice again today, but he rejected it so I'm going to lay off and try in a couple of weeks.

I'm having lots of dreams too. I think it's because I never get to the deep sleep because of all the night wakings.

hello all - sorry not been on for ages and ages, I looked at thread earlier and got so lost with how things have moved on that a flitted around rest of mn first!

went to in laws for Easter - hard work as 3 hr drive and car packed like it was a two week holiday!

dh was in paris all last week so it was manic here with the two of them to deal with, Toby decided to be up 4 times every night which mean I was hanging and then dh, who I hate complaining about because he is fab, came back and was a complete arse about getting up for ds1 at 6.30am because it was too early and I quote 'just because I've been away all week doesn't mean it was a holiday I was working you know' and then I cried and I think he got the fact he'd been able to go to sleep safe in knowledge he wouldn't be getting up before he had to

just getting back to some idea of normality - Toby now back to waking once at 4am although I wish he'd quit that now!

Anyone struggling with post immunisations? we've had second set and I swear they've swapped my baby he crys so much more at the moment, I get so frustrated as ds1 is being really patient and deserves so much more of my time but I'm having to carry ds2 most of the time at the moment.... basically am getting stressed, it was about this time I was on AD's for PND and its starting to get on top of me again

right that was all a bit me me me - hope it explains why I haven't been around! missed your support! when I've browsed the messages a bit more I'll hopefully be able to say hello properly!

Hello Insy!!! Sounds like you have been very busy! Men can be so tactless can't they?

Amani - Good to hear from you, you are doing marvelously, glad to hear you are getting lots of help from the family.

Loucee - I will be going back more or less full time, hopefully 30 hours a week assuming the company will accept that.

oh guys everyone really who is down I know its not really done on MN but big hugs all round ....this is really hard especially with lack of sleep/and/or/ support...and even with all that - just give yourself a break it is hard work we are all doing great!!!

Well he has found his tongue.. lol loves poking it out and wiggling it then chuckling at himself and how clever he is. Will try and get a pic and upload. He is fast asleep now (after very long feed) and so is ds1 (after bad dream), dp out and i am sat on my lardy bum eating choc buttons . Samuel been drooling for weeks now and loves chomping on his fist.

Wobble - sorry you not feeling so good. Know what you mean about feeling a bit trapped. Love my boys to bits but really must make sure i get out and about otherwise i feel a bit stir crazy. Still am glad not returning to work till babies at school.

Amani - you are doing wonderfully, sorry you have had bad days. It does get better but hard to see when in a bad day.

Bought some dungerees for baby from h&m today and stocked up ds1's wardrobe from there and gap (sale!! )

Didnt mean it to sound like samuel never crys, there have been days/evenings when he has cried and cried and nothing seems to soothe him much, but thankfully have been very few and far between and usually been when poorly or post imms. It has been that we have both been sat in tears and i have just cuddled him.

Antoehr reason for not starting solids early is having the faff of taking food out and about. Atm i can feed him whenever and wherever which is fab. Sat in john lewis cafe having a lovely drink and snack with ds1 whilst feeding ds1.

skidaddle - I KNOW!!!! BUT I have only just bought the damn thing so I am not selling yet. and we do have nice neighbours which after the last house is worth all the leaky roofs and sewage problems it can throw at me. But just when I think I have enough money to buy X I end up paying for Y - AHHHHHHH.

morning, what a beautifully sunny day here.

We're off to the shops then have friends coming round - one with her 10 day old baby, can't wait for a cuddle!

Hope everyone is well

Morning all

Hope you are all well.

Macd - great that your lo is sleeping thru. I thank my lucky stars every day that dd is such a good sleeper (7.30-6 again last night )

Wizz - exciting that your ds has had his first taste of baby rice, I'm sure he'll take it again. Interesting that they are thinking of changing the weaning guidelines again. Everyone I know with slightly older babies has weaned their baby before 6 mths and my hv says that very few babies that she sees make it to 6 mths so you wonder why they changed it.

wobbegong and amani - hope you are OK today. I've been feeling much better in the last wk or so but still have the odd 'low' day. I totally identify with feeling trapped as that's exactly how I feel on the bad days. I agree that getting out, even just to the corner shop with the pram, helps

Must try and read all the other posts! DD is doing well and she did her first proper giggle yesterday - so cute!!

I'm hoping to get out today as the sun is shining, lovely after all that snow/sleet/hail!

GGRRRRrrrrrrr - Evie has been asleep most of the monring whilst awake most of the night. I sm knackered and waiting for my drain man. He is LATE and I now will have to pay more to keep dd2 in nursery because there is no way I can go and get her. I have been waiting since 8 for my man because I did ask if they could come early in the morning..[CBs breathes deeply]

Oh ggrrrr on your behalf cazzy, I hate days like that!! Hope he has arrived now?

And sorry but I am so glad it's not just me who's LO is not sleeping I was starting to get paranoid! Was Evie up feeding a lot? DD was sleeping, as in she was not awake for no reason, but she was awake and REALLY hungry every 3 hrs. Not much I can do I suppose, I mean she is not faffing about refusing to sleep or anything, she just wakes up starving, has a massive (but thankfully quick) feed, then goes back down. I don't need to try hard to settle her or anything so I guess it could be worse, but still.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Is there any common theme between the ones that are sleeping? Are they bigger/older? [clutching at straws emotion...]
DD is 17 weeks so probably one of the oldest here, but also probably THE smallest so I'm thinking maybe it's tummy size related? Or are the ff ones going longer? Heeellllllllllpppp....

Loucee it's gorgeous here too, enjoy your day out!

Amani sorry to hear things are not good - I second what was said re counselling, I think the ADs on their own are not enough for most people?

Must scoot...hi to everyone!

PS keep meaning to ask - whoever it was said that the fenugreek had milk spraying everywhere!! can you link to what kind you took? My maternity pay is not going to stretch to regular use of the stuff I'm on now ! Thank you.