December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

Morning everyone

Well i had my night out last night..the one ive been looking forward to for months...but it was a bit of a let down
My best friend acted like a complete tit all night, after any man she could get basically, she went home early, my future sil was pouring her heart out about how she doesnt think she should marry her dp as he doesnt lobve her the way she wants him too, i felt like a mother hen all night and despite my best efforts i came home sober

Ah well, at least i dont have a hangover which i was dreading anyway!!

Not a lot happening here, dp had the boys on his own for the first time last night and he managed quite well, but i suppose they were in bed not long after i went out.

how frustrating fifi! Oh well, you haven't missed much,then.
Millie has not needed me in the night until after 6am for 4 nights running! She is still coughing, but settles herself. DH, never satisfied, gives it the 'i'll be happy when she is sleeping until 7'. hurrumph

Fifisworld - sorry your night out didn't turn out to plan!
Suey - wow! That is fab Send some sleepy vibes over this way.

We've all be down at my mum's this weekend, very nice, went to see my cousin as well.
DS had a lovely nap yesterday afternoon out in the garden, under the shade of a big parasol. Not a bad night, went to bed at 7pm, woke up at 11pm, 3am and 5.30am. Made DH get up with him at 5.30 after his feed as I'd got up with him at a similar time the day before
But blimey hasn't it been hot???

Suey - better tell your DH he may have a long wait to be satisfied - dd1 usually gets up between 6 and 6.30am and many of my friends' toddlers are up at 5am or earlier

It doesn't get easier I'm afraid!

Evening all! Hope everyone is well.

Congrats to those with sleepy LO's!! BT and clairy my dd is doing about the same, down at 7ish then feeding 11ish, 3ish, 5ish. The 5ish one is a total bugger cos she doesn't go back to sleep well after it - I know she probably thinks that is the start of the day but I am refusing to accept it for now! Prob bad habits but after about 5.30/6 I take her into bed and latch her on lying down - she feeds a bit then nods off till about 7.30 which I can cope with so much better!

Those of you who were waiting for 6mths until solids, how are you holding out?! I've started a thread on Aitch's weaning blog here if anyone wants to join in! I must admit I'm getting a bit impatient, but it's only a few weeks away, and I am using the time to read up on highchairs, bibs etc!! (saddo emocion)..I did let DD lick my apple today while I was eating it, she was smacking her wee lips and getting quite excited!

suey glad you are feeling better! And sorry, have to agree with clara re the early risers - none of my friends' toddlers go past 5/6am. I'm dreading it!

Who is back to work next? cazzy did you hear back re your interview? 16th June for me .

macdoodle I STILL can't get dd to take ebm from a bottle, it was you that said Mam teats wasn't it? I had limited success with a TT sippy cup but not enough for her to take a full feed when I'm back at work. Have ordered medium flow Ultivent and medium flow Silk teats - fingers crossed something works!!

pecka LOl at your night out, good on you for having the energy to go is what I say! I still haven't made it out! I didn't tell you about my pumping fiasco - fate is trying to tell me not to go back to work ...first the collection kits went to the wrong house and took ages to track them down, then the adaptor plug I'd ordered from Amazon didn't turn up so I had to re-order. Finally went into town and bought one from Boots instead, postie brought the collection kits, got it all set up, switched on....and my adaptor plug blew up and went on fire!! So it has buggered the big black plug thing for the pump, so I have ordered a new one....will get there one day!!

OK am meant to be folding laundry!!

Oh - hot weather grobags - got 1 tog from Mothercare (at great bl00dy expense, I don't like Mothercare much I have to say) and she is just wearing a t-shirt vest thing in it, seems happy enough!

Hmm dd isn't ready to get up until after 8 most days BUT she does demand milk at some point between 12 and 6 am most nights! The 8/8.30 am start suits me but would be better if she would sleep through until then!

Caz, now promise me that when you start weaning you aren't going to obsess over how much dd is having . You remind me so much of me with dd, i was always worried about her weight gain, my supply etc. The other thing is you will be surrounded by people saying stuff like "oh my dd eats 3 cubes/a whole jar" and you'll be thinking, well I gave dd a carrot stick and some broccoli but I'm not sure how much of it she ate or how much just got mushed into the highchair! I used to really panic cos dd just didn't eat-I was lucky if she took 3 bites until about 13 months but at least by doing blw she experimented with different tastes/textures etc-when I tried to spoonfeed her nothing even went close to her mouth!

Suey I went to the optician yesterday and the guy had a hybrid scots/chinese accent which reminded me of my dream!

As for ds's sleep-aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhh! just about sums it up!

lol clairey, obsess, moi?! never! HA! I was just thinking the other day that BLW is going to be like BF-ing all over again, going to have grin through inane comments and questions from MIL etc!

Re the 8am start, when I can get dd back to sleep at 6 or whenever she can often go through till 8ish and then is quite sleepy when she wakes up (also much more refreshed) - I'm hoping 8am is actually her natural wake up time and the earlier start is just a blip!!

Caz - I've joined!

And where has the nice weather gone - it's damp and gloomy here on Teesside! I've got loads of washing to do as well!!!

Forgot to mention, my period started yesterday. Over 2 weeks late!!
Oh and the new bfing group starts today, let's see how I get on

Thanks BT! And glad you are not pg ha ha!

Thanks BT! And glad you are not pg ha ha!

tee hee clareybee!
weaning- stagging on to 6 months, but am putting things on DD's tongue for her to taste: a bit of apple juice, mango, water, whatever. She likes to be involved at lunchtime so i ahve moved her long nap to after lunchtime rather than during. It is SO funny seeing her reach for my glass to drink, but then not quite being able to coordinate getting the liquid into her mouth.
Got the spoons and the baby rice, and am ready to go! (in 6 weeks)

hi everyone

Just about survived the weekend on my own with both DCs but I am once again in awe of single mothers/fathers. Poor old DH didn;t get a very nice welcome when he got back either - DD wouldn't hug or kiss him or even let him read her her bedtime story - serves him right for abandonning us!!

Caz - have tried to join the BLW thing but it says i have the wrong user name even though I have just registered with it... will read it with interest anyway

Although I am thinking of giving DS a bit of baby rice this week as he will be 5 months and the night wakings are killing me. Only a bit worse (4-5 wakings a night now) than clairey, Caz and BT but I am obviously not as hardy as you lot...

suey - although I agree with clara that lots of toddlers get up at 6 or earlier, my DD has always been a 7/7.30 waker so there is hope. Mind you she has always been a terrible sleeper through the night until recently so maybe a 6 o'clock start is better than that? Either way I don't think you get a really good night's sleep until they're at least 25

clara - congrats on first tooth. It's such a shame when you can only work out what is wrong with them with hindsight - that is always happening with both my DCs - oh THAT was what the matter was..

belated happy mothers day buzzy!

Sorry to hear about your rubbish night out fifi

hi amani - so pleased to hear things are a bit better. Have you seen a programme on about Arab woman which is on BBC2 at about 8pm on Wednesdays I think? Anyway it is presented by a really lovely half-Yemeni woman called amani and that is how I imagine you are!

Glad it went ok Skid-when I left dd with my parents to go to london I phoned her and she kept calling me aunty farah (my sister) then when I came back she just went "oh hello mummy" then "Douggie! Cuddle Douggie, kiss Douggie!". When DH came to pick us up the next day she flew down the hallway going "Dadddeeeeeee daddddeeeeee!" and wouldn't stop hugging him. Hmph!

Our night was bad again last night-ds didn't sleep for longer than 40 mins at a time . I just don't know what to do...

Yesterday we went out for lunch and ds kept trying to grab my food so I let him hold a piece of cucumber, he played with it for a while but then dropped it without it making it to his mouth so I took that as justification for waiting a bit longer to wean! Also he has forgotten how to sit up! What with the frequent feeds, sleepless nights etc I think he is regressing to newborn status-lets hope he screams less this time round

Have got him on my back today in the wrap, first time I've managed to successfully tie him on. He seems comfy cos keeps falling asleep in there without fighting it (yay!) but I need to watch my posture as my back is aching a little bit.

oh clairey - you are such a trouper! Can't believe you are still able to type and process thoughts after a night like that!

Are you definitely going to wait until 6 months to wean? I really really was but I spoke to a (nice and sensible) HV at my BF group and she was just like, he is a big baby, he is obviously hungry - 6 months is just a guideline, give him some food.

I'm not one to blindly follow advice from HVs at all but it did make me wonder whether I'm sticking to the 6 month thing out of stubbornness - oh i don't know what to think

LOL at your DD calling you aunty farah - my DD has been calling DH 'mummy, no mummy, mummy daddy' this morning, bless her

glad you DS seems happier in his wrap anyway - could it be teeth or something like that making him so unsettled?

hi skid! just got a notification email that there was a new message on that BLW site and it was from you! so it worked after all!

clairey - 40 mins, you poor thing! 2hrs suddenly seems like heaven! DD woke at 9.30, 11.30, 2.30. 5, 6, 7 last night/this am...

I'm trying very hard not to feed her to sleep or nap in the pram, not at every nap at least - this morning she took 40mins to settle for a 30 min nap - garrrr

But has just taken 10 mins to settle just now - wonder how long she'll stay asleep?

The 40 mins thing is a sleep cycle for them isn't it? Have you ever been on here? I got puzzled just reading it, it is way more routiney than I will ever manage to be, but one thing I read was that for babies who have trouble going from one sleep cycle to the next you can try gently rousing (not waking) them just before they would normally wake, eg at 30 mins. They then re-settle into the next 40 mins cycle (SUPPOSEDLY!! )

PS she is in her big girl cotbed now as was finally bouncing off the sides of her moses basket - she looks TINY!

hi caz - yes it worked fine in the end - my fault obviously - if I can't even register on a website I don't know how I'm going to fare with weaning my baby!!

your night last night sounds just like mine! I found sitting up rather than lying down to feed has SLIGHTLY increased the amount of time DS goes between feeds - and also making him feed from both sides even when he has fallen asleep on the first side - still only gives me 2 -2.5 hours but as you say that is heaven compared with 40 mins!

Skid I really don't know. I want to wait until 6 months and tbh I am pretty sceptical of the whole weaning improving sleep thing after my experiences with dd but...

Hi everyone,

Hope you all are well. Feel so much better these days with family coming down and on Sat night we went out for a Balti and ice cream with some friends and it felt like I almost had a life (took the kids with us and by chance they were both good as gold) . Stayed up until about 11:30 which is my books at the moment is mega late.

Took both DD's to the park today and DD1 threw a major tantrum as she wanted to pick the flowers near the swings, which I said was a little dangerous and told her to pick the flowers near the sea-saw. She cried so loudly and for so long, and all the other mothers were staring at me, so I hid under my cap and made a fast escape - image a crying toddler underone arm and a pushing a buggy and trying to feed DD2 with my other arm - that was me!

Skid- You got me all curious now - am going to watch that programme. Of course if she is glamorous, skinny and bright it's me!

Clairy - hope you get some sleep hun - I know that horrible feeling - can you get someone to give your LO some expressed milk while you rest?

amani - she is gorgeous - obviously! the programme is really interesting as well

btw I don't think your DDs were as good as gold 'by chance' - you have to take a bit of credit for it!

Know the carrying screaming toddler while pushing the baby in the buggy with the other hand scenario only too well - it is character (and bicep) building

Skid - agree with you! Everytime I pick up DD1 (about 2 stones) I say to myself 'Think of how many calories you are burning!' (through gritted teeth!)

Agghh!!! Just know I am in for a crap night, ds was napping in his bouncy chair when he got woken up by the phone. Cue an hour and half of him being a grumpy, screaming baba. He eventually went to sleep on me at 6pm, and is now sound asleep in his bouncy chair. He should be awake and be getting ready for bed now but haven't had the heart to wake him. Going to leave him and put him to bed when he wakes up again.
But this will throw his whole night out I think.
Plus the bfing group wasn't on as the HV who is supposed to be running it is off sick.

He's still asleep! If he is still asleep when it gets to 10pm, I'll have to wake him and transfer him upstairs, and change him, feed him then put him down in his cot.
Am thinking that we simply haven't been putting him to bed early enough - we normally put him down between 7 and 8, now thinking it shoud be nearer to 6pm.