December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

hello everyone - glad to see we were all too busy having lovely bank holidays to log on - at last summer is here and isn't it great

DS has been up literally every hour for the last three nights - I am so exhausted and desperate. This moring I came down looking like death warmed up and DH said, well the only thing that will make a difference is giving him some formula aaaagggh. Anyway I'm hoping it is just a growth spurt and will settle down. I have started feeding him lying down in bed which might mean he falls asleep before he has a proper feed - would that make sense? Anyone else experienced anything similar?

suey - glad you are feeling better

fifi - enjoy your night out - how exciting!

bouncing - we have started putting DS in just a vest in his grobag - mind you he waking every hour so probably best not to take advice from me!!

clara - didn't see casualty - will have a look at the thread though

hello everyone else

Hi Skid

Oh dear, how tiring! I can only suggest the one thing I will be shouted at for suggesting which is to start him on solids!! Although to be fair, up every hour doesn't sound like hunger to me - more like teething or something? I can't imagine it, I have been lucky with dd2, at her worst she was still always sleeping for 2-3 hour stretches...

I just hope it gets better soon.

Skid - my friend's boy, who is 5 months, is waking up loads, and he is ff. So take no notice of your dh! Unless you have other reasons to switch to ff, and bfing isn't going well then I would stick it out.
There is a growth spurt around 4 months. I think your ds is the same ages as mine, nearly 19 weeks? My ds has just started teething really badly but it seems to be late afternoon, early evening that it really bothers him. I've got some anbesol to try out on a friend's recommendation.
Claraq - don't worry we won't shout at you, my feeling is that it seems to be the bigger babies that want to be weaned earlier than 6 months, judging from babies I've seen. I am toying with the idea of introducing a bit of baby rice when ds hits 5 months to see what he thinks of it and then do BLW at 6 months.
Fifisworld - enjoy your night out!

thanks clara and BT

clara - I have thought about starting him on solids but he doesn't seem remotely interested when we wave food under his nose and I'd like to hold out until 5 months or so if I can (dont really know why, just another arbitrary goal I have set myself!)

BT - he's 20.5 weeks I think and this growth spurt has been going on forever. A HV told me it can go on for up to 8 weeks on and off. My DS is teething too but this hasn't been teething as he doesn't really cry, just roots around noisily in the darkness! I'm definitely not starting him on formula so will just hope it ends soon.
Hope the anbesol works for your DS - if it doesn't calpol works wonders I find

Aaaargh I can't cope when I don't come on for a few days-too much to catch up on!

DS was abolutely fine with my friend when I went to the show-she even managed to get him to sleep without screaming. I almost cried as I left him [pathetic]but he was fine, probably didn't even notice!

Is a relief not to have to be expressing anymore, Buzzy I don't know how you did it for so long-I was only doing one feed per day for a couple of weeks and I was so bored of it.

Welcome back fifi, sounds like Ethan has a healthy appetite!

Clara dd is also starting to get a bit possesive of things now that ds can play with them a bit "No douggie mine, my toys mine, mine, my dog (it isn't!), my book (it was hers but she hasn't played with it for over a year), mine mine MINE"

She was however quite happy to share her juice with him while we were at my parents-I was out of the room and came in and my dad was just sat there watching her tip her juice into ds' mouth which I was NOT happy about.

Thurs night ds slept 7-10 and 12-4.30 so 2 long stretches. Friday night he went to bed at 7, woke at 8, 9 and 10.30 but then slept 11-5. Since then................has been waking constantly again! Main problem I think is poo-he seems to go every morning at around 6am but is uncomfortable for quite a while before that, certainly from about 4am onwards he is squirming, thrashing around and farting. Usually settles with cuddle/dummy or boob but wakes up within 15 mins again.

Skid you have my sympathy, must be even harder to cope with a non sleeper when you are used to them sleeping.

bugger I thinking I am getting mastitis. My right nork is sooooo sore and I feel slightly odd....am holding a hot flannel on it as we speak.

Any other advice?

Hello All,

Skid, i think its just a growth spurt too and nothing to do with ff..

Suey OMG I just saw how ill you got, poor you, thank god you're on the mend now

I've just got back from the local baby clinic (for one reason or another we've never been to this one due to other clinics at the hospital and hv visits, and 2nd baby syndrome, i've never needed too) and I out of a room of ten was the only one bfing, everyone else had bottles-i then noticed the sign for 'bfing room' and thought OMG am I supposed to go in there?! Then thought stuff it, if these new parents are remotely bothered about me feeding in here by the scales when there are posters up saying how beneficial it is i'll punch them (they didn't) I can honestly say its the least comfortable i've felt doing it in public though-how ironic and very odd!!!!

Ds has just had his 2nd jabs (we're so late with it all) but touch wood he's being ok so far, not like last time when he turned into a teary little sausage for about 5 days...but we'll see....

Must buy a sunhat, anyone got a nice one for a boy? I've seen loads of pretty girl's ones but all the boys are a bit chavtastic-might have to pay a virtual trip to mini boden (again) but don't fancy spending loads on a small bit of cotton lol

OH cazzy, poor you, its awful. TBH if you're starting to feel odd (high temp, weak) get straight onto your gp and demand either an appt now or over the phone help, the quicker you get some anti bios the better.

Hi clairey

Ooh poor you cazzy, am very lucky in that I have never suffered with it so no advice. Hope you feel better soon.

Lizzer how odd to have a bf room at baby clinic. Haven't seen any boys sunhats ether apart from caps, will need one for ds when we go to Botswana at least!

hi clairey - great your DS was fine with your friend and i dont blame you for crying - i did the first few times I left DS too -now I am jaded and used to it! How was the show?

{shock] and at your dad standing by as DD poured juice into your DS's mouth!

cazzy - I would go STRAIGHT to your doc if I were you. if you catch it early it will be fine. My HV also advised me to take a double dose of the ABs the first night and it cleared up really quickly

Hi LIzzer - good on you for not going into the BF room although I think those rooms are for mums who feel embarrassed rather than trying to hide BF mothers away - I hope so anyway.

I got a nice yellow sunhat for DS but can't remember where I got it - will check label tonight - it was 8 quid I think

Just popping onto say a quick hello.

Been back into hospital AGAIN for a few days due to DD2 ear infection and ezcema . She's still quite poorly, but we are back home and she needs 10 days of intenstive treatment i.e having medication on time, which is proving to be really hard work as she needs 4 oral mediction and 2 different types of skin creams and wet wraps.

Finding it really hard to plaster on a big smile and carry on normally for my DD1 sake...inside so tired and wanting to cry all the time. Keep saying to myself 'This will pass, this will pass..' and trying to be optimistic, but my hope is faltering now and feeling really down..

Hope you all are ok...

poor you, amani- you have had so much to deal with! Can you get some help so that you don't need to keep your energy up all the time for DD1? It must be dreadful trying to keep the PND under control with all that's going on. You are doing brilliantly and it WILL pass

hi all! beautiful here too (very odd for scotland!)

oh amani poor you, you have so much on your plate, can you get any help with dd1? i know this sounds silly but if you do get the chance, maybe when they are both asleep, i would just go ahead and have a good big old cry, it really does help.

has the hot weather caught everyone else on the hop? we have no 1 tog grobags either, dd's buggy has a massive warm cosy toes thing on, no light trousers, etc etc! oh dear, i'll have to go shopping...

holding out for 6mths here or as close as we can anyway for solids, mainly as i'm a bit paranoid re allergies. it's funny watching dd get more and more interested in food though, wouldn't be surprised if she swiped a bit soon, and as that's her 5mths now it wouldn't be the end of the world if she did!

oh - she's awake - bugger...!

Just put new pics on my profile of my two boys if you want a nosey!!

Fifi - so cute!

Caz - yes, it's hard to keep up with the weather at the moment! I am frantically trying to buy shorts for dd1 but they are all really short shorts and just don't seem right for a 2-year-old somehow. JoJo's do some fab Clamdiggers which she wears all the time but they are the only long shorts I have been able to find.

Amani - you really do sound like you are coping fabulously and I imagine it must be incredibly hard. Hard enough if you were just looking after your poor little dd2 but much harder with dd1 and your PND to deal with too. It will pass, you know that, but it doesn't make it easier at the time.

Cazzy - yes AB's ASAP. I got mastitis on Christmas eve, luckily managed to get a dr's appointment and was well enough to enjoy Christmas day!

Clairey - we have the same thing with toys/blankets etc that dd1 hasn't showed the remotest bit of interest in for ages, suddenly become her favourite thing as soon as dd2 wants it. She is actually showing more jealous behaviour now than at any point since dd2 was born, so I have to watch her very carefully.

Skid - I hope the "growth spurt" or whatever it is miraculously disappears for you tonight.

well I took ymself off to bed at 6...feed on the infected side (it made Evie be sick lots but hey ho) and now I feel on the road to recovery. Ifeel 70% which is an improvment.

Armani (didn't want to post on the same message as my selfish post)..you sound like you are doing really well. it is so tough when your LOs are ill and I have only had to deal with colds. No advice but I am thinking of you.

another beautiful day here. I could get used to the having nanny, but at home thing . Almost back to full fitness. It is awful, when you are ill, you just cannot ever imagine feeling well again. But then the light at the end of the tunnel appears...
going for coffee with a mate this morning then luch with another mate. this is FAB

Amani - you poor love, you really are having a time of it. Are you getting plenty of help and support? Can your DH take some time off to help you with the girls? Even if it is just to take dd1 out for the day to give you a wee break?

Cazzy - ouch! I had a blocked duct, did what you have done and it cleared up pretty quick.

Suey - make the most of it! Especially after the week you had when you were poorly! Glorious weather here too!

Managed to get ds's passport photo done, tried him on a stool with me supporting him but he was too busy nebbing at what was going outside to look at the camera! So laid him on a beanbag with me holding his hands down. Photos look ok, I think! They said if no good bring them back and they'll re do them for free!

Skiddadle - thanks for posting on my thread about the prospect of a Tory Government, it seems to have kick-started it into action! Haven't even had time to read all the messages - when I left it yesterday there was only one reply and I felt very unloved; now there are over 50!!!!

You obviously have a knack to get people posting that I don't!

clara - I think that is the first time that has ever happened - i am ALWAYS the last person to post and sometimes get ridiculously paranoid that i am so boring/offensive that no-one else can bear to post after me! Anyway I think it's was a really good thread to start as it's looking likely Cameron will get in at the next election

amani - huge hugs to you, what a horrendous time you are having. Please try to take some time off and do something lovely for yourself. You are doing brilliantly but you need a break

suey and cazzy - glad you're both feeling better

Have finally accepted that DS will have to go to nursey next month. I have been in denial but there is no other way and now I have accepted it I am actually quite excited about it. it will be sweet for him and DD to be together (I hope). And I am determined to express all his feeds so I don't beat myself up about not BF him (ridiculous i know)

DS still waking 4 or 5 times in the night. DH said he tried to grab some of his porridge this morning - maybe time to start him on solids, my little baby is growing up

Thanks everyone. Am having a hard time at the mo still and cant help but think my poor baby is so tiny and innocent, why is she always ill? Am really trying but cant help think is it my fault she is ill? No support at the moment as family are on holiday, DH took some time off work when DD2 was in hospital so cant take anymore time off and as mentioned before nursery fees have gone up significantly so cant afford to keep DD1 for longer hours. On my own, but I have been going to bed at 8pm, so I can headstart on sleep for whwen DD2 wakes up night for her usual cries/medication. Just keep thinking, kids will grow up fast, but really feels like this phase is going so slow...

Suey/Cazzy - get well soon

skid...dd1 was entirely bf when i went back to work at 3 months.

Pecka - I am shocked....re:Sunday morning ....sounds like it was a very good night although I am guessing not such a good sunday. Good on you girl!

cazzy did you read that on the other thread???!!

it was eventful alright - was at christening so drinking from 2pm. Took kids home to bed at 6.30 back in town for 7.30 moved from wine to double vodkas and went round the town - had FAB night. Felt fine til I got in the taxi then very quickly felt sick, had to stop taxi 5 times to be sick out of the door - - - i was feeling pleased with myself id managed not to get any in car.

We pulled up at cash machine near our house and i literally crawled out and lay on pavement DH had to carry me home, then spent an hour on my front step being sick until I felt well enough to stumble up to bed, just landed in a heap with my clothes on. Woke up in morning, shagged dh, wasnt til after this he tells me that when I got out taxi driver examined car for sick, found no sick but a wet seat!!!! I was/am so mortified, my pelvic floor must have given up with all of the retching.

Cant believe DH a)let me lie in my pissy clothes all night and then b) wanted to shag me in teh morning before shower (must have been desperate poor love)

DD didnt get up until 8am thank god and I literally lay on the sofa ALL day and ate lots of junk but did nothing else, DH had to do all naps etc

And then I had to go for morning after pill yesterday lol

I STILL feel a bit hungover and dont think the shame will ever leave!!!!!!!!!

Hows that for a night out LOL