December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

She did however sleep from 7:30pm to 6:30am last night

Sorry Macdoodle I don't remember them affecting dd this much but ds has really suffered too

oh well in that case i have no sympathy for you

I've given up on expressing - got a good stock in freezer and gonna mix feed when used up - if I can ever get her to take a bottle
Figure she will have had 4 months ex BF and will be solids soon ...

Haven't expressed at all other than my two blocked ducts so figure my boobs need a chance to get used to the pump! Will be easier (I hope) when i have a bottles worth to give him so can express in place of a feed not in addition to it!
Am burying my head in sand and ignoring the fact he might not take the bottle...

Clairey I forgot was it you we were gonna meet up in Bristol - sorry this thread goes so quickly Was just thinking we could be having this conversation over coffee which would be preferable to trying to clean my building site sorry new kitchen...in between posts

thanks for all the comments . It is so fantastic to have her back- all smiles in the doctors this morning- such a flirt. Great photos wizz/ macdoo- sgreat to see them enjoying themselves!

I have made a discovery- she always screams when we get her into her sleepsuit- i thought it was because she was tired- but tried her in some pjs last night- no whinging at all! Just back from the shops and have bought some more

awen thanks for support The thing was, she was crying even if i was holding her and cuddling her! poor wee mite. but all smiles now

clairey - you seem to be having all the same problems/thoughts as me!! DS also has a horrible cold despite my lovely BM antibodies, I have also decided not to even think about when DS will sleep through and just enjoy him being a baby, and I am also having a nightmare expressing! I reckon one of the problems I have with expressing is that like you I try to expressin the evening as that is the only time I have to myself and expressing with DD and DS around is a nightmare BUT I think this is the worst possible time to express in terms of getting milk. If we wanted to be really disciplined I think it would work to get up in the small hours and express then but don;t know if I'm that dedicated - are you?!

bouncing - your poor thing re swimming pool incident - how terrifying. Glad you managed to have a nice swim anyway. Good to hear the Durham meet up went well - look forward to coming along next time if I can

suey - brilliant Millie is back to her usual self - I think they are just inexplicably out of sorts sometimes and that is just part of it. Much easier when they can talk and tell you what's wrong - but then there are the tantrums that go with talking so not sure which is worse...

cazzy at the poo incident - were a lot of the other people there parents? At least they would understand

My DS is not clingy - does that mean he doesn't love me enough?

OK AIBU question of the day: do you think it is reasonable that I should get a lie in on both Saturday AND Sunday given that I do all the night feeds every single night and DH gets up during the night with DD maybe once or twice a week? To be fair I think my DH thinks it is reasonable but other people in real life sem to think I'm being really cruel? What do you reckon?

YANBU skid. No Way. My dh does the 10.30 pm feed (expressed) so i go to bed earlier than him and do the early mornings. TBH my boobs are pretty full first thing so couldnt delegate the early mornings in any case!

thanks suey - I do the early morning feeds as well - he just takes DS and DD downstairs so i can sleep between 6.30 and 8.30 am - not exactly a great lie-in but makes me feel slightly human again

meant to say hello and welcome back to Insy as well

Claireybee & Macdoodle - I was getting worried about dd taking a bottle but my advice is just to persevere! I am on antibiotics at the moment and I want to start dropping feeds to stop bf over the next 3 or 4 weeks so have been giving dd a bottle a day this week (of EBM). At the beginning of the week she was having none of it - pushing it away, screaming, rolling the teat around in her mouth, moving her head away etc but we have kept at it every night and last night dh gave her a bottle and she was fine with it.

I was starting to worry that I have left it too long and that I would still be bf-ing her when she was 4!!

Good luck with it!

Evening all! Good to hear a boob-to-bottle success story Louise! That is my challenge for next week while DH is off work, hoping she might take a bottle from him more readily, have also bought some faster flow teats as realised I was trying with newborn ones before. Fingers crossed! Are you stopping for going back to work?

I think I have turned into a bf-ing weirdo and would quite like to still be doing it for a long time...I think because we had such a hard time getting it established...dunno...am v at myself for feeling this way!

hugs to all post-jag babies, it's so horrible for them! dd is normally so happy, it was awful to see her so upset.

pecka pleeeeeeease email me I need to send you money!!! How are you getting on with daytime naps? I can really only get DD to nap in the pram - which totally defeats the purpose of my either catching up on sleep or on housework - although sometimes I can get away with coming home and she sleeps on for a bit in the hall - not often though.

those of you using grobags for daytime naps - how do you actually do it, do you put them in the grobag then feed, or rock or what? My naps are a bit hit and miss, I think if I tried to put her in the grobag I'd just wake her up and miss my chance!

claireybee i think you are quite right, we just need to relax and enjoy! DH had a go at me in the nicest possible way, saying i needed to stop wasting my mat leave worrying about going back to work! which I admit I am doing, but also scared of not having childcare organised, and of leaving DD to starve cos she won't take a bottle!

macdoodle, wow gold top milk indeed hee hee! I love chubby babies, dd is starting to chub up a bit now and it's so nice to see.

Re baths/swimming - she used to SCREAM all the way through her bath it was like a nightly torture session and we wondered why we were doing it! We also go to baby swimming lessons once a week, started at about 10weeks. She wasn't keen on that either the 1st time, but is gradually getting better and now smiles away in the pool it's fab. I don't know if it's connected, but a few weeks ago she started being much calmer in her bath too, and now in the past few nights she has discovered SPLASHING - aaarg! So much fun but so much mess! So don't know if the swimming has made her like her bath, or if it's just an age thing.

How/where do other people bath their LO's? We have this bath support in the matching bath, and it's been great, but now that she is thrashing around it's a bit hard, she kicks her legs against the plastic and I'm sure it'll hurt! But she can't sit unaided, so I don't think anything like this would work yet?

skid - you are SO NBU! But everyone goes on about how great my DH is cos he does so much around the house, helping with DD etc. I think you should be doing half each! He actually gets a bit pissed off when people say how often he "helps" with DD, he's like I'm not HELPING, she's my daughter too! No-one would comment on how much you are helping out would they?

(sorry that was a rant - but people with lazy dh's annoy me - I don't think they should be let away with it! I say make him do more!! )

PS loucee all quiet from you, hope you are well? I'm attempting a trip to town on Saturday, going to try John Lewis this time for changing etc, I think you said it was nice? Princess Sq was quite poor in that respect I thought.

suey how is your feeding chair idea coming along? That one that someone posted with no arms looked a million times better than the gliders.

Caz - naps, ds tends just cat nap in his bouncy chair/car seat/pushchair, but for a longer nap, I put him in his grobag on our bed and get into bed and have a nap myself. Unless is already very sleepy (e.g. sleeping downstairs on me) I normally have to feed him to sleep. If I do this we both get at least an hour sometimes 2 hours sleep in the afternoon, which frankly I need, and I think he benefits from as he is far less cranky in the evening.

Ds has his 3rd set of jabs on Tuesday pm. We're also starting baby massage on Tuesday am!

Skis - YANBU DH and I take turns though, he gets a lie in on one day, I get one the next, the reason being is that he does have to get up quite early (6am) for work but a couple of time he has got up at 5am because ds has been wide wake, to allow me to get a couple of extra hours sleep. He does help out at night feeds, by fetching things or changing a nappy. If I'm very tired he'll help me feed ds lying down.

Actually I did get pissed off at him last weekend because he had a lie on the Saturday and sais, well you can have one on Sunday.. except we were getting up early to get to the 9.15am services at St Nic's in Durham - 45 mins away! So had to get up early to make sure we were all ready to go at 8.30!

caz10 - i dont want to take any money for postage unless i know your getting on ok with the pump. otherwise you will have to go and spend money on another one - have you tried it yet?

naps still a major issue in this house - ive taken her for 3 LOOOOOOOOOOOONG walks today just to try and get on top of her overtiredness

Pecka - do you lie down and nap with her?
I find it easier if I put ds in his grobag on our bed and lie with him... plus I get to catch up on sleep. I feed him to sleep if necessary - cvan you do that? I do sympathise, I think I mentioned that I have a similar issue which is starting to be resolved this week by me doing the above though I'm still not convinced he naps enough.
I think ds is starting to get better on the night, the night before he woke up every 3 hours, last night he self settled (well I sang him to sleep, does that count) which he hasn't done last couple of nights, went down at 7.15, woke up at 10.20, 12.20(dodie) 2.10, 4.15, 6am(dodie) and 7am. So not bad at all! Am thinking of trying to wean him off the dodie but might leave it another couple of weeks and see how it gets on, especially as I want to get his jabs out of the way!

Napping a problem here - yesterday she would finally go to sleep but be awake again within half an hour. She has also woken again in the night for ther last two nights and last night I had to feed her to get her back to sleep. As I didn't want to do a bottle I am glad I still have a bit of milk left! But I won't for much longer.

I'm afraid I usually just leave her to cry herself to sleep, but obviously judge it and if it goes on too long or she is too distressed I pick her up. But with dd2 to look after too I just can't be spending the time to rock her to sleep. Wish I could - although to be honest she often gets MORE worked up if I pick her up....

Btw Martha is now sitting on her own and playing with toys, she is also lunging for things and absolutely desperate to get up and walk or move around. She gets herself from a sitting position to lying on her front and then starts moving her legs like she is trying to crawl. I think it will be a while yet but I have a horrible feeling I'm going to have an active one.

Sorry I should have started with "good morning everyone I hope you had a better night than we did"

hello all,
naps- millie gets a bit grumpy when she is starting to get tired- usually 2 hours after being awake, so i take her up to her room and pop her in her grobag. Kiss, cuddle, lights out and leave. She usually goes down without a whimper but occasionally complains- if this goes on for more than 10 mins i get her up, check nappy, try and feed and put her back down again. I have started to put he under her mobile rather than the other end of the cot as she seems to find it reassuring.

caz- i am having a drink with my mate tonight to discuss the feeding chair- i have some (i think) fab ideas- won't share them until i have secured the IP/ prototype/ patent as this is a public forum and i don't want anyone to nick the very simple idea which is the basis of the design.

In my work clothes for the first time in 6 months. feels very weird

Hi everyone

YANBU skid, chez Lizzer it is the unwritten rule that dp has ds for at least an hour on the weekend am. Its the best sleep I get knowing ds is safe and entertained, although i still do feel guilty if dp has done really long hours at work that week....soon passes though

So glad millie is ok again Suey, its horrible when they go through a spell like that, I remember dd going through 'a phase' every other week at one point and now ds is showing similar signs..

Does anyone think this is selfish? I cancelled ds 2nd jabs this week cos he reacted so badly last time and this week i've had a friend staying and this wkend were off to newcastle to see my grandma... I just didn't have time to deal with a grouchy ill baby...sounds bad doesn't it?

Pecka/awen, thats really interesting link, ds has just been doing the same this week, he just needs to feed through the night much more often, i was going to start getting him to sleep in his crib all night but sod that, he's staying in with us until its over or noone will get any sleep!

As for naps ds still can only manage 2 hours awake before nodding off (in pram or whilst feeding btw) but usually only has half an hour, sometimes he has a long one (up to 3 hours) but i figure that's when he's growing...

Well this is our first weekend away, i used to be really organised with dd but i'm just going to chuck some stuff in the boot and hope for the best.. Its funny cos with my first i used to haul a suitcase sized changing bag around with me absolutely everywhere and this time i wang some bits in my handbag and i'm off!! (I'm sure i will come a cropper one day soon though!)

Have a lovely weekend everybody

suey doh! am such a bumpkin these days - hadn't realised that the museums would be so busy. i'm sure they never used to be. i was wandering around for a while, staring like a nutter at women with prams, and actually did pluck up courage to ask one woman if she was a mumsnet bod. were you sitting on a bench opposite the butterflies? next time i'll be more precise/organised. hey ho.
sooooo reassuring that other babes are buggering around with feeding/sleeping at the moment. dd suddenly going for AGES between feeds, and has also started sleeping during the day for more than 20 minutes at a time, which is great but a bit wierd.
last night she went to bed at 7:30, was awake and howling by 9:50, fed, slept, more food when i went to bed at 11:15, grumbling at 1:30, 2:30 and 3:00, and eventually fed at 4:55, then slept through until around 7 when she woke up but didn't scream. Having read that link, should I be feeding her at the first grumble i.e. 1:30/2:30? Maaaaahn, just when i get the hang of it, it all goes and changes...

Morning All,

Am knackered. DS woke at 1.15 last night and didn't settle til 3.30 when we brought him into our bed. Just had a snooze during his morning nap, and have got a coffee on the go now and have polished off half a packet of choc digestives but feel almost better.

Right, now I'm going to read and catch up on all your posts, haven't done so yet.