December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

Clara, it was me who posted about bored mums . I agree with you though, I think 1 yr olds are too old to be breastfed in public. For me, if you're still bf at that age it should be only morning and night at most, and certainly not to calm them down in public. Younger babies perhaps. I'm all for bf in public though, goodness knows I do it. Would deffo try to time my swimming so I wouldn't have to bf at the pool though - if for no other reason than lo would possit in the pool.

No problem with the one year old in public thing (not going on that thread got mauled there once before)...but not actually IN the pool - yuk - would they like it if someone gave their child a fruitshoot IN the pool or a chocolate...or wee'd etc etc....ok to get out and do it on the side ...but hey ho each to their own just don't do it while I am having a swim!

Eaxctly Wizz no bodily fluids in the pool thank you - of any sort even the wonderful breast milk - which is why I haven't been swimming yet don't fancy leaking in the pool

Have been having problems loading this thread over the weekend, rest of mumsnet just a bit slow but it has frozen every time I've clicked on this one, strange!

BT It sounds as though Daniel is doing brilliantly with the self settling and I really wouldn't stress about it. Falling asleep while you read to him is amazing, and before you have said he has fallen asleep while you dealt with his nappy so that is also really good. DS is nowhere near that, I wish he fussed himself to sleep but he seems to cry up not down-ony time he will self settle is if I put him in his cot and he stays calm-the minute he starts fussing it immediately leads to screaming and doesn't stop! (don't take sleep advice from me though-my children don't sleep as babies )

Love all the new pics, Clara just how different in colouring are your dd's? Was dd1 always blonde? dd2 has just as much hair as my dd had too, do you get loads of comments on it? Awen ds2 looks so snuggly, am quite jealous of the cosleeping, it just doesn't seem to work for us although I frequently bring him in when I've been up 200 times already!

Hi RG! Good to hear how things are going.

Wizz glad you have been having better nights, we are working towards it, am feeding ds the first time he wakes (usually 11ish) then not for 4 hours and again not for 4 hours. He is still waking constantly but is getting easier to settle without a feed. For example last night I fed him at 12.30 and so was aiming for 4.30-he woke twice but when he went bck to sleep at 3.30 he then didn't wake until 5.40 so had gone over 5 hours without a feed! If I can get down to just 2 night feeds (and wakings)I'll be very happy. I know that still seems a lot to most people but it would be infinitely better than what we have been having!

Wizz - I agree with you about the bfing in the pool. I wouldn't bfed in the pool, for te reasons you stated but also what about the chlorine taste on your boobs! When I took ds swimming I fed him after in the changing room, after making sure I got myself dried off and dressed. I don't tend to have a problem with leaky boobs, so wasn't worried on that score.

Last night was pretty good! Ds woke up just after 11, fed him and changed him into his night time nappy, he was awake when DH put him in his cot and he soon went off to sleep. Woke at 2.20am, fed him he fell asleep pretty quickly so I put him back in the cot, then he woke at 4am, then at 7am! So not bad! Wondered if I woke him up at the 2am feed to encourage to take more, would he still wake at 4am? Guess only one way to find out!

hanks fror backing me up Kelbel, I knew I would get a negative reaction but then that was half the reason I posted it, sometimes these people just pee me off! I actually think my views are VERY normal in RL, but then MN isn't RL!

Btw, I am NOT opposed to anyone breastfeeding their one year old or in public - I am very admiring of those who do! But I DO believe that by being as discreet as possible you are helping, rather than hindering, the "cause"!!!

Anyway I'd better step away from that thread before I get into more trouble!

clara i totally agree, i'm not against that either, however i think in the pool is ridiculous and i think the views on how being discrete is whats causing others to feel uncomfortable is trollocks! as much s i love mn, some people really p me off

Claireybee - yes, I couldn't believe it when dd2 came out with tons of dark hair - dd1 was born with hardly any hair and has always been blonde! We do get lots of comments.....

Hi everyone

Had a lovely day at the seaside, DD had a fab time on the pebble beach and DS loved the sea air and seagulls!

Wizzska and BT glad things are starting to improve for you, keep at it and I'm sure your hard work will pay off.

Kelbel ah for a night out with DH! Good for you, did you use family to babysit? I'm debating whether to use a friend's 15 yr old (very mature) or a trainee paed nurse who I know through a friend to babysit so DH and I can go down the pub for a couple of hours or out for meal. The kids would be in bed and don't usually wake until past a time we would be in anyway. What are your views - 15 too young?

I bfed DD until she was 18mths old, I think we were very discreet but to be honest i wouldn't have hesitated to feed her if wanted a feed/needed a feed at any point in any place. However I totally agree about not feeding in a pool.

Loucee - yeah we're very lucky to have both parents on both sides and a set of v willing great grandparents. we've managed a couple of nights out, because luckily, although ds feeds every 2 hours during the day, he usually goes 7-2 no problem on an evening, so can fit a night out in, would just like the secruity of knowing he would take a bottle - but doesn't bother me that much, was just lovely to be out for a few hours, but just as ovely to have a big cuddle with ds when got back

i would say if the 15 is confident with the kds ad you have confidence in her then its fine. I have a 14 yr old cousin who spends a lot of time with ds and is v good and confident with him and he loves her. I woud chose parents, but would consider letting her

i also agree with bf anywhere, but personally i always make an effort to not draw attention, not saying people should just makes me feel more comfortable. that thread is getting heated! resulting in people who are discrete being called sad cases!

Kelbel my DS is the same, feeding every 2 hrs in the day but doing a long stretch after going to bed.

Well done BT on the weight loss, oh and Wizzska. I haven't weighed myself since I started but can feel my jeans (my HUGE ones!) are getting loose so I'll take that as an indication I have lost a wee bit.

agh I think we have hit the 4 month growth spurt ( a bit early),,,,but my girl who normally goes down by 8 and doesn't stir until her next feed earliest midnight, sometimes 2-3,occasionally 5-6 - has woken up twice since she went down at 7:30 and ravenous both times

macdoodle - saw helpful link here

sorry but have to be honest and say I am offended about the suggestion that i shouldnt be nursing smauel in public if he needs it at a year old or more. At the end of the day i wouldnt exspect you would bat an eyelid if it was a baby having a bottle so why not a breast, and samuel is a big boy so will likely look odler than he is. Am going to walk away from this but am offended as nothing wrong with extended breastfeeding, how many people give their kids bottles for a long time as it is a comfort etc?

Awen no one has said that she shouldn't have fed the baby (1 yr old) in public - just not actually IN the pool...thats all - I do plenty of feeding in public .....today ouside the Ikea park on a bench...at closing time so plenty of lookers....was fine just a bit chilly ;)
Oh and thanks for the link ....very sweet and true - she has def become more distractable popping on and off the boob...and she was DEF hingry tonight longer feeds than usual swallowing noises ....she has settled now but am expecting more later - she is not a crier usually so pretty low threshold for feeding when she does cry

Oh how fab, the weather reports are looking great for next week - good for all those kids on school break and good for all of us being able to get out and about enjoying the nice weather.

Macdoodle I think Awen is referring to Wizzska's comment

Terach me for skimming, knackered tonight but looks like anti-b's might be working. Had a mammoth 1 and half bedtime feed! No i wouldnt feed 'in' the pool but if he needed a feed i would get out and feed him. I do feed him in the bath at home at times though. Is lovely and warm and he seems to love it. Dont know how discreet i am in public, i dont walk around with one out (like i do at home lol) but i do feed him wherever and whenever, although wont be doinmg the school playground again in a hurry, lots of infants clamouring to see baby shreiking with excitement at top of voices led to samuel being very interested in them too , the drs surgery this week wasnt to great either lol, he pulled off and my milk was letting down and got ds1's nintendo ds. opps.

loucee - yes i was, then i read the others and they werent so bad.

It was this comment that offended me 'I agree with you though, I think 1 yr olds are too old to be breastfed in public. For me, if you're still bf at that age it should be only morning and night at most, and certainly not to calm them down in public.' Ah well, tbh i dont care really what others think, tis what i think is best for my baby.

meant to say about the pool - i wouldnt personally (well tbh i havent actually given it too much thought and just fed when and where) but i wouldnt care if someone was.

Awen I think my DS will look older than he is for a while, lots of people look shocked when I say he's 16wks old. DD was and is more petite so even at 18mths I didn't feel like she was a toddler feeding IYKWIM?

I agree BF is a totally personal thing - I think my DD1 has now become totally au fait with it - she was playing downstairs with neighbours kids I was feeding Lily lying down on my bed with just a gown on (yes I know but just got out shower and was feeling lazy )....next thing I know in traipse 4 six year olds to ask if they can use loo and DD1 says " oh look mummys boobie feeding" and so they do....all look ...luckily I am not embaressed and neither were they (I do know them all pretty well though)

Loucee mine is huge too ...both long and fat and quite strong so looks much older than 15 weeks.....

Ah Macdoodle that's great. DD (2.2) picked up my breastpump (just the bit that goes against your boob) and lifted her top and said "I make milk for baby Fin", bless her.

must be all the gold top they are getting from us right little porker mine is. Got to say i am getting very outspoken about bfing. Learning so much more this time round and getting really irritated with stupid comments. One of my neighbours phoned whilst i was feeding, said i was feeding and she said 'your brave, i only did it for 2 weeks'. I mean brave? not brave just really focused that this is right for me and my baby. Fed up of pussyfooting around my decision. There are so many reasons to feed him and so many more not to feed him formula. Not much that i really feel strongly about but this is one subject i do.