December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

I usually stay clear of the g&t threads, don?t usually post in AIBU, but always have a sneaky peak, usually stick to tame(r) chat ? and here of course. Also have a peak at the TTC threads to see how many have moved over to PN since I was in there. Lizzer, hope you had a nice lebonese meal, never had it myself wouldn?t even know what lebonese food is. (I?m in my twenties and after a glass of wine at midnight, I?m living dangerously!)
I thought that boys were more clingy than girls too clairey. DD also has a scream before sleep too, I put it down to over tiredness. If she?s really grumpy but tired I usually just stroke her head and hand to calm her down, if that doesn?t work, a little cuddle comes in handy.
Is it June you?re going back Caz? I feel for you, think I?m going have to go back to work, the money is not going to stretch enough for me to SAH, plus our mortgage rate ends in Nov, hmm fab.
Whats with all the gorgeous babies on this thread, cazzy, clairey and claraq, just awww.
Awen, poor Samuel, bless him, hope his ears clear up soon.

Suey, that thread went a bit mad didn?t it? You held your own admirably, though must to confess to only scanning as there was way too much info to digest and I?ve already decided on vaccinating DD so didn?t want to get into it too much.
Pecka, glad you had a fab day, and good on you for braving the weather, I don?t dare leave the house if there?s grey clouds looming these days ? which in the NW is most of the time!

Anyone with chubby babies? DD isn?t a big baby but there?s so many folds it takes ages to clean her, not mentioning the awful neckcheese that always appears no matter what. Even the nurse mentioned how she wouldn?t feel the jabs so much as she?s a bonny baby! Right ? must go to bed?.

Must go to bed, but MN is sooooo addictive, oh well DH can see to LO in the morning.

Pecka - good to hear you had a nice day Sometimes just getting out of the house makes all the difference!

Loucee - I'm doing ok, lost 8.5lbs so far and have been going 6 weeks, had one blip due to much consumption of Easter Eggs!

Awen - your boys are lovely, your ds1 has such gorgeous hair!

RGPargy - hello!! How's it going?

Well have ordered No Cry Sleep Solution and The Baby Whisperer, in an effort to get ds into a more recognisable pattern.. and hopefully to sleep longer at night! Don't know if it'll work but I am just exhausted!

BT - I hope that reading the books helps. I certainly found it useful to follow some rough routine but don't take it all too literally or it will drive you mad (ie when they wake up after only 30 minutes and the books say "let them sleep for 45 mminutes" etc). I think I have said it before but one of the most useful things about following a routine is that it helps you know why your baby is crying/what it's needs are.

We had our best night yet last night. I decided not to do a dream feed. She woke at abuot 11.45 so I fed her then. She did wake again at some point in the early hours, but just chatting so I ignored her. Next thing - it's 6.20am! Does that count as sleeping through? If so it's a first for us!

Onto carrot today.

Awen - lovely pics, I really like the one with his thumb in his mouth!

Cazzy - lovely pics too - I hadn't quite got my head round you having three girls! Wow that must be interesting for your dh!!!

Pecka - glad to hear you're feeling better.

Loucee - I am strugglingn to lose any weight. I'm not gaining but seem to have stuck at about 7 pounds over my pre-pregnancy weight. I have just ordered a pilates dvd though so am hoping this helps.....My tummy is still too big to get most of my normal trousers on comfortably, which is a pain.

Had a better night here dreamfeed at 11 then up at 5 then back til 8 - cant complain at that!

dh has taken the littlest two out for an hour

peeeeaaaaacccce

Pecka, Clara, better night here too! That's twice in a row where only 2 wake ups, that's really good for us. 2.00 and 4.30 ish then through til 6.30. Also easy settling which makes all the difference. Had some energy this morning so went for a run. Perhaps I'll get toned legs for the summer after all.

Have stuck with the policy of letting him cry to sleep. Horrible I know but it seems to be working. He can settle now when his dummy falls out and now sucks his thumb. Please let this continue.

Bouncing, have you seen this website about sleeping. Might help. www.andreagrace.co.uk.

Hello RG, you're welcome here if you ever want to come back from your November thread.

wizzka, how long does he cry until he settles and is it all out crying or fussing? also is the time he is crying reducing

wondering if i might have to do similar to get a nap out of mat

Ladies, those of you breastfeeding I could use your help here

Wizz - thanks for the link!

Took ds swimming today for the first time. I think he liked it! I just held him in my arms and and bounced him in the water, splashed his face and walked up and down the baby pool with him - my thighs got a good workout as I had to walk crouched to keep him in the pool!
He was very good, didn't cry until I was getting him dressed again, so I got myself dressed and then fed him and he fell asleep! Definitely will be taking him again!

Wizz - well done, I am sure ditching the dummy DOES help with their sleep. Martha does always cry a bit when I first put her down and I think how long depends on how tired she is. She seemed very tired last night (was almost asleep while feeding) and therefore only cried for max 5 minutes. Other nights the crying has gone on longer and gone up in intensity, so I have gone in and comforted her. Usually the crying is just grizzling really - she really just wants to go to sleep and picking her up would probably hinder rather than help.

Bt, I'm taking ds swimming next week, i'm glad your ds enjoyed it so much..

Hi RGpargy, yeah pop back on wheneve you like, i saw your thread on bfing, what did you decide was best in the end? I'm finding bfing much more managable and enjoyable now that ds is on solids...

Pecka, hope you enjoyed your peace and quiet this morning..

Gorgeous new pictures Cazzy,Clara,Clairey and Awen

For those who were interested in the Lebanese menu, its not as crazy as you'd think but nice fresh tastes..
starters
Boiled quail eggs with cumin salt to dip
Minced lamb topped humous with pitta bread
And mains were cod served with a tahini sauce, chickpea salad and saffron rice served with caramelised onions and yoghurt...
Absolutely GORGEOUS!! I cheated and bought a Gu orange and choc tart for desert but the rest was from scratch, all recipes from the cookbook of Moro.

Hello

Very impressed with your Lebanese menu, Lizzer. It sounds lovely!

I have started on the amoxycillin for my ear infection but still not feeling great. DD a bit out of sorts probably due to this (horrible, runny nappies) and it took ages to get her to bed last night.

Thanks Louise what a shame it has affected your dd, i took pro-biotics from health food shop when i had them and also give special infant ones to ds as he's on low dose ab's for his kidney problem...He's always been fine but then that might just be chance, still it might be worth a try

Have been guilty of feeding ds to sleep... so decided to try and break that habit.
Gave him a feed, put him in the bath, then got him ready for bed, into sleeping bag, into cot, all the while he is chattering away... then he fills his nappy . Out of cot, out of sleeping bag, into new nappy, back in sleeping bag and cot then give him his dummy back (that's a battle for another day ) start reading to him (have been reading Peter Pan to him), and he eventually goes to sleep!
Question for all you ladies wiser than me... feeds during the night, so you try to wake the babies after each feed to try and put them back in the cot awake?
Cot's in our room at end of the bed, don't really want to have him in our bed (though we do sometimes) because there just isn't really enough room for us to be comfortable so only do it when dh is away.

BT no way would I wake a baby in the night to let him self settle, that would be complete madness Tbh, she is usually very sleepy when she feeds in the night anyway and is often barely awake for much of the feed.

It sounds like you are doing excellently, especially him falling asleep while you are reading to him. But don't take all the advice about putting them down awake too seriously. I used to ALWAYS feed dd1 to sleep until she was at least 5 months. I fretted continuously about making a rod for my back etc. But eventually she learned to fall asleep on her own (there was a fair amount of crying involved, but it is a lot easier to deal with when they are older) and now is a fantastic sleeper.

Lizzer - I might get that cook book, that meal sounded very yummy.

Ahh thanks for that Claraq - was a bit confused by the advice!
He just stirred, but seems to be quiet again now!

Hi everyone

Thanx for the welcome!

All is going well with DD. We seem to have a nice routine going now. She normally starts getting grumpy from about 6pm, and then will look dog tired by 7pm so she either has a bath, massage, feed and snuggle to sleep and transfer to cot or she'll just have a feed & snuggle, depending on whether it's bath night or not. Sometimes she wakes slightly as i put her in the cot, but if she does she normally drifts back off to sleep again no problem. As for her pattern through the night, she normally wakes only once during the night, although has been waking twice recently, with the exception of last night when she woke at 1am for a feed and then didn't wake until 6am!

Lizzer - i'm still BFing and will no doubt keep at it until i go back to work and then i might consider putting her on formula. I'll see how it goes really. I could very well still be BFing by then too as she'll still only be 8 months by the time i go back.

Think i'm going to be holding off til she's six months before i start weaning, although having said that, i did try her on a spoonful of pear puree today and her face was a picture as she tasted the bittersweetness of it. I wont be doing it often, maybe now and then if i get curious, but as a rule i'm holding out til six months.

you lot chat so much dont you!! Great stuff!

is anyone into Battlesta Galactica? I've started watching the"celebration" programmes on it whilst I await the nex Lost episode and it's quite addictive!

DS has been a real cutey today despite his bottom two teeth coming through, although he was awake for 3 feeds during the night so maybe he suffers from them more at night.

Dh and I have started rewatching it from the first series, we stopped watching early into the 3rd as we were watching it in fits and starts so found it hard to follow.
It is good isn't it!

Pecka - luckily DS only cries for about 10 - 15mins or I wouldn't be able to bear to hear him fuss to sleep. Firstly it is all out Waaa, very cross then just fussing, then just sleepy noises ~(he sounds like Jimmy Saville 'uueeuueeeuugh').

Have lost 3 lbs this week without really trying, although have been running 3times. .

BT I'd definately not wake DS if he was asleep, I'd just put him in his cot asleep.

oh oh I've done it now.I posted on a thread about breastfeeding an upset one-year-old in a public swimming pool that I wouldn't breastfeed a one-year-old, I wouldn't breastfeed in a pool and I wouldn't breastfeed to stop a one-year-old being upset. Not that I have anything against others doing the above (well, I think it would be better to get out of the pool and try other ways to calm the child first), but I am sure I'll upset all sorts of people for daring to suggest that women shouldn't be walking around all day long with their breasts on public view and three-year-olds hanging off them.....

Someone mentioned bored mums hanging aorund looking for an arguement - i think I must be one of them at the moment My hormones are literally ALL OVER THE PLACE due to dropping lots of breastfeeds and I FEEL LIKE A FIGHT!

hi all, clara i've just posted to back you up, i wasn't as brave as you, but totally agree.

had a rare night out with dh last night, but got called back at 10.30 as ds needed a feed and still wont take a bottle. tbh though i really didnt mind, he was down for 645 and never usually wakes till about 12, he must've known, little bugger.

i'm loving this stage (17 weeks today) lots of chatting, smiles, proper laughs and much less crying. has found his feet and boys bits!