December 2007. Laughing, sitting, rolling, whatever next - sleep perhaps?

[Wizzska]

Hello ladies, will you join me here?

Funny how we get obsessed with sleep when we don't get any

Funny how we get obsessed with sleep when we don't get any

insywinsy - how old is your ds - i think dd is ready for a 3.5/4hr easy but the bloody short naps dont help get things going at all

her feeding has been RUBBISH today too - only taking 1-2 ounces each feed. She probably hasnt even had more than about 9 oz all day - it should be about 30 and is usually nearer 22oz or something

arghghgh something every day to antagonise over!

Pecka - are you worried about it? what does yoyr docyor/hv say? or has she just a litte appetite.

btw dd3 falls asleep about 9ish but that is normally downstairs whilst i am on here and then goes into hewr cot whenever i go to bed ~10ish

Cazzy, i do worry about it, probably rather selflishly as she sleeps better with a full tum and wakes for feeds if she hasnt managed them in the day.
Im sure I have no real reason to worry as she is over 13lbs at 13 weeks and has very chubby cheeks!

Caz10 - I assume you meant my ds's weight, my DH says his weight is none of your beeswax
He was weighed a week last Friday an was 11lb 5oz at 13 weeks. Getting him weighed this Friday, expect he'll be getting up to 12lb.

Last night, down at 7.30, up at 10.40 (he actually woke up as DH and I were DTD!! First time since before he was born), then up at 01:40, 03:30, 05:00 and wouldn't go back to sleep so ended up taking him downstairs.
And I think he has just done a poo...

Morning

Cant remember who it was asking about sleep training? Well with DD we did some at 6 months when we took away her dummy but with DS we have done some pick up-put down and, touch wood, it's worked for the last two nights (did the PUPD on Sunday night). I would never leave him to cry it out but when he was going to bed on Sunday he was hard to settle and seemed well without temp etc so I just kept going into him as he kept spitting out his dummy. I gave him lots of cuddles then put him down and left, he cried so I repeated that and after a few more visits into him he went to sleep. He was also waking for his dummy during the night but since Sunday has gone back to waking once at 4ish for a feed then back to sleep and he hasn't taken his dummy at night at all. It wasn't a conscious exercise for me on Sunday it was just as things happened IYSQIM?

Off to do some retail browsing today with DS, Caz sorry you're not around to meet, hope the wee one's jabs go ok. Beanster maybe see for a coffee/lunch?

caz - ds goes for bath about 6.15, bottle and story (he usually brings up last of wind whilst we're reading as I have him upright on my lap, and then goes in cot dozy but awake) in bed for 7pm - he didn't take to dream feeding so have never bothered so for a while I got up at 4am to feed then 7am for the morning, he had a couple of horrendous weeks which looking back I think was combination of wanting the dummy and growth spurt and now he's settled a bit more - I'm enjoying it while it lasts

marmalade - don't be bout swaddling blanket I was really sad when I couldn't swaddled ds anymore. I'd like to keep him as baby for little longer still in baby grows most of the time I'm sure people think I'm too disorganised to get him out of his pj's!

clara - the getting up in the night to put dummy in was why we got rid of it too, he was using it to settle on. We've been to longleat cp - its lovely very hilly and the swimming pool bit and sport centre are in diff places but some lovely walks to do, we took bikes which I'd recommend for getting about - we're off again at some point this year with in laws (they're paying which is a bonus!) but we're going to suggest elvden for a change as no been before - when are you going?

pecka - he'll be 16 wks on sun, baby whisperer has a 'plan' in her book about adjusting their routine but i didn't look at book earliy enough so just swapped it to 4 hours yesterday and he coped - he was taking short naps too but I did pick up put down to make them longer - was a rubbish couple of days for ds1 but at least he'll get benefit now

Insy - we're going in about 4 weeks time, I am really looking forward to it although unfortunately dd2 will be too young for the bike trailers although as she is very strong and holds her head up very well we might be able to get away with it (they are meant to be 6 months and she will be 5). Best of all, I have booked a three hour session in the spa - just me, myself and I, all on my own for three blissful hours

I am wondering about extending her routine to four-hourly too, might do this when she is weaned - we start this week, probably tomorrow!

bedtime - bath a six, feed to sleep by 7pm, thats why i want to try the self settling, because although he is always asleep by 7pm (which is great), it is always by feeding to sleep and i don't want this to become a habit - but its a struggle to keep him awake because he is so ready for his bath and bedtime. wakes about 11.30 for a feed then a couple of time during the night.

forgive my ignorance, but is the shh pat as it sounds?eg, if they are crying go in and ssh and pat to calm them? only when i try this ds is like a wild animal! throwing his hea from side to side and making majo grunting noises!

'morning

Claraq, at your spa time, lucky girl....

We're off to italy in july, which is why i'm asking 'bout flights, my best friend lives near venice and we visit every year,thanks to ryanair its super cheap to get there too.. Cannot wait to enjoy a 'sprizz con aperol' my ultimate apertif..last yr i just had to drool watching dp drink his when i was pg (oh ok i admit to having a glug from his glass ) And sitting by the pool....and the amazing food...and
What holiday plans have you all this yr and are you slightly bemused at how you're going to pack all the baby stuff?!

Kelbel, imo i'd wait to do cc if you're not happy, if there's a right time it will present itself to you. I did a bit with dd around 10months but that's because it felt right (it was to get her back to sleeping pattern after a particularly bad bout of teething pain) HTH

I'm so of those of you ditching the dummies, if i knew it were possible to do so young i would've def used one on ds when he used me to comfort himself. I just thought dummy=3yr old habits. Will deffo use one for number3 ( at the thought of another baby)

Well ds had a 3hour nap y'day afternoon, thought it would totally throw him for bedtime but he went to bed no probs at 8.30..I do want to move this fwd to 8 but i'm very happy for now..

Morning all,

Just waiting in for my mum to arrive, she's visiting for a few days. Am going to make the most of it and get her to babysit while I go running.

Bad night again last night, after 12.45 he woke almost hourly. DH in the end decided to put his cot in the living room, but he screamed so much neither of us could sleep so DH went and slept on the sofa whilst I remained in bed worrying. When will this ever end?

We're off to France at the beginning of May. We want to go to America in September but I'm not sure we'll be able to afford it. Would also like a week in Devon and a few days in Italy. All these sound extravagant but we'll be visiting family and friends for all of them.

wizzka, arghh that must be very, very wearing you poor thing

what do his days and nights normally look like

dundee i'll see you there! just to reiterate, i am not 6'4" but 5'10", am caucasian (sorry white british!) with brown hair and i have a scottish not a chinese accent - not that you can tell by looking at me.

loucee- i think i'll try that pick up put down thing. DD does normally settle herself, but sometimes she doesn't even when i pick her up, but it has to be better than leaving her to cry it out.

i'm a bed at 7 person too.

i cracked and bought 3-6 month dummies today - but only 2. Still trying each nap to settle her without one and it is working about 50% of the time. I guess i will just take it slower

Pecka, DS's timetable is usually up at 6.30, short feed then DH looks after him and I have an extra half hour or hour kip. Then full feed at 8.00. Play until 10am, then he sleeps if I'm lucky for an hour, sometimes an hour and a half (today he would not wake up so I indulged him with 2 hours, bad me!) then feed, play for as long as I can make him. Lunchtime nap at 12.30 or 1.00 for an hour. Feed 2.30, then we go out in the afternoon and he oftn has a nap in his pram.
Bath 6.30, full feed 7.00, bed between 7.30 and 8.00. Night time is anyone's guess, but mostly awake it seems to me. Ugh!

Oh and dreamfeed at 10.30pm.

I've just got him to sleep in his own room for a daytime nap in his cot for the first time rather than moses basket in our bedroom. I think we'll try to begin to move him in to his own room.

Hi everyone.
After another bad night I think I'm going to see if I can procure a copy of The Baby Whisperer and see if it can help me... am soooo tired!
Have been expressing like mad but today got fark all out! Only 1/2 oz, where as I normally get 2-3. Will try again later.

Buggery bugger Evie is at the 4 month waking in the night again stage...she has a really really long feed - twice. Am a little sleepy again (at the mo).

goh we are all finding it a bit tough! Millie seems to be chomping down all i can produce at present and wanting more. Have defrosted some ebm to give my boobs a chance to catch up. Och well, more chocolate for me then far more fun than fenugreek .
I am a bit worried though, only 3 more feeds in freezer. Will have to start pumping like a mad woman to make sure i don't run out when i go back to work. Have thrown loads away too when she hasn;t taken it all

Insy! Glad you're ok, we were missing you! DS was the same post immunisations...didn't help that he was also ill. Had a couple of low days myself-think anyone would get stressed with a clingy crying baby though!

Aw Suey I was partly hoping you were going to say that actually you do bear a striking resemblence to Miss Trunchbull

LOL Awen if you'd said Samuel never cried I wouldn't have believed you! Either that or wondered what you were drugging him with! Hope he feels better soon.

Caz, Whizz, BT anyone else with crap nights-Cazzy is right 4 months is a prime waking up loads time. I remember dd went from waking just twice to upwards of 6 times around now. She had always had a bottle at bedtime but I tried always giving formula (before it had been either ebm or formula) and upping the oz, she drank it all but it didn't make any difference. Then I tried a dreamfeed-made her worse. Then I tried replacing another bf with formula-made no difference. Tried weaning her at 19/20 weeks, she refused to eat so that obviously made no difference! She eventually went back to just waking twice (very occasionally 3 times) at 5-6 months ish so am just holding out and hoping ds will do the same (but hoping he drops to one night feed before 10 months and doesn't still want milk in the night at her age!)

Last night was slightly better as he only woke three times, but I had given him medised again so it could be down to that!

Kelbel shush pat makes ds VERY angry but PUPD sometimes works (my problem is that I'm not commited enough to it and would rather rock him to sleep while watching telly downstairs than stay upstairs with him for hours and try and get him to settle himself-I'll pay for that later when he is heavy and I'm still having to rock him though!). TBH I also think that as DH is so adamant we aren't having any more I want to baby ds a bit and so don't mind.

Controlled crying didn't feel right to me until dd was well over a year but I did use it for 2 nights when she was being a pain and refusing to go to bed (although then felt very bad cos it turned out she was teething so not crying for no reason after all ). Haven't needed to since and I think that my biggest issue with it is that I'm never certain enough to say there actually isn't anything wrong iykwim?

Have taken some good pics of ds sitting that I was planning to show off to you all but I can't find the card reader so can't upload them