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December 2007: It's all worth it for the smiles.

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claraquitetirednow · 08/02/2008 21:40

I've never started a new thread before - has this worked?

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loucee · 10/03/2008 21:18

sorry about that, it was bizarre, I could only see posts from 10th Feb! I was clicking on the end page but it just wouldn't work!

Yep crap weather up here as well, DD and DS have the cold and a nasty cough, I hope we get a wee break of nice weather soon. At least the days are getting longer though, which is nice but reminds me I'll have to get a black out blind for DS's room, his room seems very light in the mornings and although it isn't affecting him yet I bet it will cause him to wake earlier at some point.

In a rush tonight so haven't caught up with the thread but hope everyone is well

cazzybabs · 10/03/2008 21:18

hummm - has marked the plaster. I am off the dentist tomorrow - I am so scared. I am bound to need several fillings!

Evie is fine - she is sleeping at the momment. She has really woken up this week. She has really started to interact with dd1. She loves standing and refuses to sit. She has started to hold a toy when given to her. She is a proper baby shape. God I love this age - wish it would last forever. I was singing puff the magic dragon with dd2 yesterday and got all emotional. Mind you it quickly disappeared as Evie screamed and dd1 and dd2 were fighting over who got to swing between the sofas.

suey2 · 11/03/2008 08:44

hello all,
wizz i have been using that book as a reference and it seems to work really well for millie- that said, i have not been dictatorial, but i do find that if she has a 45min nap in the morning, 2 hours at lunch and 30 mins afternoon it works really well. I also find the feeding schedules work really well, too although i use them as a rough guideline.

Well, millie is learning how to be naughty. She was waking up at 2.30, 3.30, 4 5 am, and when i went into her room she would instantly start smiling and want to play. Had to do a bit of tough love on sunday but sunday night she only woke once at 3.30 and was thrashing around i think because of the storm, settled instantly with the dummy and then was up at 6.30. Lat night she went through from her 10pm feed to 6.45 without me going to her once- no screaming, just a few gurgles every now and again. In that book it says that between 2 and 3 months their sleep pattern changes and they come into light sleep a few times a night- they have to learn how to settle themselves. worked for us

loucee · 11/03/2008 09:11

just out of interest is anyone else having problems with the display of the thread? The last post I can see was from Clara on 8th Feb at 21:40, I've deleted my cookies and opened a new browser but still not working

Bouncingturtle · 11/03/2008 09:33

That was the first post of this thread.
I'm not aware of any probs but using old layout.

AnastasiaBeaverhousen · 11/03/2008 09:53

It's working ok for me but like BT using the old layout

Beanstermummy · 11/03/2008 10:56

Morning folks. Sounds like we're all having a busy time of it and just having a quick look over all the posts it's comforting to know there are others having similar issues/problems etc and good things too obviously.

Well after my real low last week with Freyas feeding etc a) my milk seems to have caught up a bit but also b) (as with a few others of you out there) have got my head round the fact that I've done 13 weeks exclusive BF and topping up or replacing a feed or two will not send me to hell So far things are going well and she seems to want one top up in the afternoon or evening and is ok with me at other times - although the top up is getting more and more so I suspect it will be complete feed soon. Felt really sad at first - especially when she didn't seem bothered and was happy as Larry guzzling away from the bottle - but she's much happier now and that's what matters really.

Had a jolly weekend - especially with Wales beating Ireland on Saturday (not so good Scotland winning game v England though) and spent some time with my wee sis and then my folks have been here for the last 2 days - just gone now though hence being on-line.

Some one also needs to keep hassling me to get Freya's nursery sorted (after disastrous attempt at putting the border up!) - like you Suey, we ned to start getting her to settle herself more and she needs to be in her cot too soon as she's getting too big for her basket!!

Anyway - she's crashed now so I'll be off for tea and choccy hob nob HV is round tomorrow and hopefully bugster will have put on some weight this week - she does look it. Oh yes - poo issues are all sorted now as she's pooing like a good 'un again

Caz10 · 11/03/2008 11:03

Morning all! Sorry haven't been on for ages, like someone else said, by the time I've read the thread and caught up, my free time is up! Actually i thought it was up 2 mins ago...dd is in her wee basket in our room and I heard snufflings on the monitor...tiptoed through and she was half asleep half awake looking at me through very sleepy eyes, so I crept away again!! Bet she wakes in 2 secs!

loucee i am on the old layout too and no probs! How are you, hope we will meet soon! DD was fine after her last jags so hopefully this will be the same.

work - going back in June - aaargh dreading it!! Went in the other day and have a couple of bits and pieces to do as it is report time (teacher) and I realised how much I've completely switched off from it, couldn't remember the names of some of the kids in my class! . A bit concerned about it re feeding etc as dd will be 6ish months and time to start weaning etc...plus I am crap at expressing, PLUS she now won't take a bottle no matter what is in it!! I'm hoping by that time she might drink from a sippy cup?

sleep - yes we are getting some!! Not much but some! She can do a 5hr stretch - think that must be maximum tummy capacity! WHEN she does it is another matter. She is still cluster feeding in the evenings, just feeds on and off all the time, 11pm is the earliest I can get her down, sometimes it's half 12. But then if she goes down at half 12 she goes right through till 6ish which seems more humane...last night she went down at 11 which was nice, but the payback is getting woken up at 4am! she does settle after that though, till 7ish.

cazzybabs WOW to holding toys, that is fab!! how old is your LO? I keep trying to get dd to do it but she is not interested at all yet. she is v nosey and interested in people though, in fact toys just seem to annoy her and she peers round to see the person who is holding it instead!

feeding - we are still exclusively BF, taking it a day at a time TBH. The paed gave us the all clear - DD is tiny but healthy so that is a relief although i wish she was bigger.

macdoodle oh HUGS you poor thing!!! that sound horrendous, well done you for being so quick off the mark in getting her seen to.

naps am i the only muppet who has a non-napping baby?! i have to put her in the pram to get anything longer than 10 mins (she is awake and feeding again now!). she is content, happy, smiley etc but AWAKE!! and even though i know she is fine i feel terribly guilty plonking her somewhere while i get stuff done, i feel obliged to sit and blether to her. i have yet another sling coming in the post, a rhubarb and custard one which i think is like your coorie sling loucee, so we'll see how that goes. i wasn't very good at tying the calin blue tight enough, but think i will go back to it when she is better at supporting her head.

who was it mentioned their quick 5 min bf's? i am SOOOO of that!

suey and loucee i am of your childcare too, they sound ideal.. we are going to have a nightmare i think cos dh's shift pattern changes every week so the hours we'll need will be quite irregular.

BT that woman was a total prat at your BF group, how awful. glad you are taking positive steps from it. what a silly cow.

amani we have a vibrating chair for dd and it DEF helps digestion - we can get a guaranteed poo out of her in it every morning! she is useless at getting wind out too, so rather than wasting ages patting etc i let the chair do it!

buzzy that is v interesting re tummy time etc - i'=ve read a lot re the RE nurseries through work, excellent stuff. similarly i remember reading something re the increase of dyslexia/dyspraxia etc and some people put it down to wee ones always being confined/strapped into something instead of rolling/crawling/walking freely - spatial awareness, and 2 sided brain development is inhibited or something - your mum will prob know much more!!

ok have to swap sides - can't type with other hand...back later!!

Caz10 · 11/03/2008 11:04

crossed posts BM! glad feeding is better for you.

re settling - i am still feeding to sleep a lot of the time - this is baaaaaaaaaaaad isn't it???!

Wizzska · 11/03/2008 13:53

Cazzy - DS has started holding toys and putting them in his mouth too. He seems so much more grown up now. He keeps trying to grab my wedding ring and eat it.

Today he was able to have a little longer tummy time. He can lift his head higher for longer before collapsing. I let him stay until he's really frustrated. I guess he's got to gain strength in his arms somehow.

Got to go, the first race is starting at Cheltenham. Am spending the child benefit on the horses this week.

becklespeckle · 11/03/2008 14:06

Hi all! DD is not quite her usual smiley self today but I am putting that down to the jabs yesterday, she has a bit of a temperature but it doesn't seem to bother her too much although I am obsessively checking keeping an eye on her.

Beanster, we have also not sorted the nursery out yet! DH bought the paint (pink) when DD was just a few days old but that's as far as he got. There is no skirting board or radiator in there and the carpet is still rolled up and needs laying (we bought it 2 years ago). Mind you, he is now halfway through another project, my bathroom! Have a nice new bath in but no working toilet upstairs, no shower (and bath is too big to fill and bathe in so showering with the tap attachment at the mo) and the sink is not attached to the wall. All good fun! He's going to have to pull his finger out soon though as he's also got to get a bannister rail in before DD crawls so we can have a stairgate and given that DS2 crawled at 6 months he may not have that long! The joys of living with a builder...

Caz, I think your DD will be old enough to sip from a cup by 6 months although she may change her mind about the bottle! DS2 would not take one at all, whatever was in it but then once I started him on solids he realised the joy of looking around him as he ate and took it without a problem (and started refusing breast, sniff). Fantastic that the Paeds have signed her off now, nothing wrong with being tiny! She sounds very similar to my DD in her nighttime pattern, the other day she fed early all day and so I woke her up for her last feed at 11.30 thinking I would get an early night but then she woke up at 4! Its definitely worth me sitting up that extra hour because then she goes through until 6-6.30.
I hope feeding to sleep is not too bad a thing, DD just does it - wouldn't know how to go about stopping it! DD can self-settle though if she is sucking something else. She still doesn't really like the dummy though and spits it out with a disgusted look on her face. She cannot get her thumb in her mouth by herself very often so I have been helping her . Do you guys think I should persist with the dummy or just give in and let her have her thumb? I did a lot of damage to my teeth sucking my thumb (head brace to correct it) and would hate her to have the same, a dummy is so much easier to take away but she just doesn't like it! So guilt now for giving her a dummy she doesn't want or guilt later for possible damage to tooth positioning???

claraquitetirednow · 11/03/2008 14:18

Beckle - the dummy/thumb conundrum is an interesting one. dd1 would not take dummy and suckeD her thumb. At the time it seemed like a god-send that she would suck her thumb and it helped her learn to settle herself to sleep from about 5 months. But she is now 2.6 years old and we want her to stop sucking it as we have noticed it is starting to push her teeth out. But of course she tells us that sucking her thumb makes her feel better - what can you do? can't chop it off!

Dd2 loves her dummy and again, it has been a god-send, got me through some difficult times, gets her back to sleep at night if she wakes, soothes her in the day time etc. But of course I feel bad about using it and am dreading having to get up in the night for the next couple of years to pop it back in her mouth.

I wish there was an alternative but not sure what it is!

Have just put dd2 into 3-6 month clothes for the first time. She's a real baby now - full of cooing/shrieking noises. She pulls the toys on her bar over her chair and puts them in her mouth all the time now. She is also getting fascinated by her hands at the moment.

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AnastasiaBeaverhousen · 11/03/2008 14:32

Wow Caz10, you should win a gold star for that post, I?m impressed at the length you managed.
Cazzybabs, DD is the same with holding toys now, its very sweet, she also grabs her top and lifts it up to flash us. Also been getting big gummy smiles and she chatters away and blows bubbles, it melts me everytime. Of course it?s balanced out by the screaming fits, back arching, and purple face! DD doesn?t like tummy time either.

We?re back from her 2nd set of jabs, braved it without Mum this time. Initial screams but calmed down quickish so we?re not so traumatised by it. FFing is going great, (it?s not cheap though is it?) boobs are easing off painwise now, was afraid she?d reject the bottle but no problems so far. Shocked at the change in poo though! She easily guzzles down 6oz without stopping for air. She likes her food, like her mama.

Don?t know all that much about GF, but gather it?s strict routine based. Wizz, I?d try everything to see what works for you both. I have a routine type book, by Rachel Waddilove (sp?) which is good to get an idea of how it can go, but adapted it to work for us, also a mix of baby whisperer, (haven?t read the book but watched her programme) we pretty much follow EASY now, didn?t at first as she was sleepy after her feed, not before it. Our day is now feed then play for 1hr to 1.5hrs then sleeps for about 1hr until next feed. Feeds are around 8am/ 11am/ 2pm/5pm then bath around 8pm, feed at 8.30pm down to bed at 9pm. She then sleeps til DH is up about 7.30am. She won?t yet go for 4 hrs between feeds, which is what that routine book recommends, but I?m more than happy with how it?s going.

When are you guys thinking about weaning? Guides are 4-6months. I?ll try about 4 months I think and see how that goes. Baby rice isn?t it? Mixed with formula? Hmmm, must get some plastic bowls and spoons, it?s when the messy fun starts.

AnastasiaBeaverhousen · 11/03/2008 14:39

Beckle, don't know the answer really, but I'm a little too quick with the dummy at times I'm with you about the teeth thing, I had 3 years of braces and a head one (at night only) plus me and DH had dummys as children so we are happy to use them with DD.

Wizzska · 11/03/2008 15:46

Anastasia - I'm a bit dummy happy too. He dribbles loads when he sucks his fingers and they go red so I get a bit keen on putting a dummy in his mouth.

First day on the Gina F thing. Working so far. DS has just got to sleep for his afternoon nap on his own with only a couple of mins of crying.

DS had his BCG yesterday, luckily no bad effects yet. I hated going to the hospital though. DS was in a really smiley mood and I felt awful when his little face changed to a little sad crying face when the needle went in.

Only won on one race so far. Let's hope tomorrow is better . Come on An Accordion in the 4.00.

Wizzska · 11/03/2008 15:50

By the way, how many of you (especially 1st time mums like me) are going to lots of activity groups? I went to a play group thing this morning with a neighbour who has a 2 year old and a 6 month baby. It bored me rigid and DS didn't get anything out of it, too young. My neighbour has always done something with hers every day and was encouraging me to. All I do is meet my antinatal class girls every thursday for a gossip and lots of biscuits and tea - and lately since we've found a baby friendly pub, something a little stronger (in moderation . Does that make me a bad mum? (Please put the gambling aside before answering that one).

Wizzska · 11/03/2008 16:09

Yay, An Accordion won!

Caz10 · 11/03/2008 16:20

congrats Wizzska!
I have been going to quite a few wee groups etc - and like you the best one has just been when a few of us from the group at the clinic met at other times for coffees - DD too young as well i think but I have enjoyed the baby chat (never thought I'd say that!)

I do swimming, a baby group thing, and a BF support group (just tea and chat) - gets me out I suppose! have met a few nice people but I don't know re lasting friendships etc esp when I'm back to work.

I've ordered GF from the library to have a look - from what I can tell from other people's experience the best way to use it is without getting too rigid about it - my friend used to cry and get stressed when her ds didn't do things at the "right" times - it just upset her. But another friend just used it as a rough guide and ignored the bits that didn't suit - eg her BF baby needed 2 hourly feeds and there was no way she was going to let him go hungry. Let us know how you get on!

cazzybabs · 11/03/2008 18:09

Caz10 - I say holding toys...I am sure she is reaching for the. She moves her hands but who knows...well I mean clearly she is g and T - prehaps I should post on the gat bit.."My 3month old baby is holding toys. Should I be looking at private education? Should I ask for her to start in 2009" .

I am also thinking about returning in July (so I can get paid over the holidays!). I a also wondering when to do my threashold application...I will need the money.

cazzybabs · 11/03/2008 18:12

BTW I a pariond abour allergies so I will be weaning at 6 months.

Caz10 · 11/03/2008 18:59

i've been reading about baby led weaning www.babybanana.biz/page4.htm
and babyledweaning.blogware.com/ - going to give it a go! 6mths here too i think.

heee cazzy she is def G&T!!

Beanstermummy · 11/03/2008 19:08

Wizzka - def not a bad mum - always remember my HV with DD1 asking had I sorted out 1 handed feeding so I could have my glass of wine in the other hand?? Not completely serious but there are far worse things we could be doing - how any of us are even alive beats me if you go back to what was still 'allowed' by our mothers!!! As for groups - with you on that one - I actually went along to our local one when PG and met one woman who I'm still in touch with but not been back - I suppose you have to remember that just because you all have children doesn't mean you have anything else in common - I just don't do the forced socialising bit - very much like you in meeting a few mates for a coffee (or wine!) but not the groups - also not easy as I'm going back to work and again, it seems false doing the SAHM bit for a few months.

AB - (can't spell the long version!!) - weaning for DD1 was easy - at just over 14 weeks she became very unsettled, not sleeping through (by some miracle she had since 7 weeks!!) and started slowing down weight wise - as she's been so settled etc in the weeks running up to 14 the HV suggested I tried some baby rice/rusks maybe once a day just to see the effect - within a week she was wolfing down loads and was back to her old routine. With DD2 this time it may be later, but I do think it depends on your baby to a certain extent - I wouldn't rush if they seem happy just on milk - although it is supposed to aid sleeping

Oh well - Freya is now wailing away so top up it is

suey2 · 11/03/2008 19:27

i too will try and stag on to 6 months, depending on how millie goes. I actually plan to BF for a year becasue i can't be arsed with formula and i seem to be a bit of a cow on the milk production front: but will introduce solids at 6 months.

Ambi · 11/03/2008 20:13

Changed back.
That's good to bear in mind now so I'll just keep a watch out for her being hungrier. Don't want to push her through babyhood too fast but also excited to try a new stage with her I guess.

PeckaRolloverAgain · 11/03/2008 20:35

hi everyone, lovely reading all your posts.

this weeks news from me is that we successfully relactated and mathilda is back on the boob! yay

she also, for nearly 10 days now is in bed by 6.30-7. sleeps all night (except of course the nightfeeds haha - what i mean is she is in cot 7-7 waking briefly for middle of night feed)

she chuckled for first time yesterday and is generally gorgeous unless she is nap resisting or overtired, then she is very not gorgeous