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Oct 2007 - This little piggy had none (sleep that is!)

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alicet · 23/01/2008 13:05

Hello ladies!

Well here is the new thread so I can link it before the old one runs out... Hope you all find it!

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Mine · 08/02/2008 16:24

re london meet up - fab!! Was worried everyone was going to cancel.

Muppet - the signing thing sounds cool. you'll have to teach us a few basics next week.

We had a good day today... met an old friend for coffee and shopping in London Colney. She was very tearful as her ds is starting nursery AND she';s going back to work next week.... made me feel sad as i know that is all to come, but trying not to think about all that just yet.

Hope everyone is having a good day.
xxxxx

WinnieThePooh · 08/02/2008 16:29

Hi everyone,

I hope you are all well. Shula had he last jabs on Monday. I think she is having a growth spurt at the monent as the last 2 nights she has woken at 3am for a feed.

Apricott I have emailed you regarding the liners.

i am off to my parents on Sunday for half term so won't be about much.

Dalrymps · 08/02/2008 16:49

Hey everyone, more awful teething/screaming today tried giving him cold things to chew but no better, just made him more annoyed, haven't managed to get teething powders yet, will have to get some asap! Anyway after ages of trying to calm him down i resorted to calpol, he was so unhappy he wouldn't breastfeed and was overdue a feed, I gave him a bottle and expressed some milk so it wouldn't affect my supply, he's fine now, snoozing away thank god!
Dh might have the chance of a job here in berwick gonna see someone about it on mon, crossing all my fingers and toes he gets it, it'll mean he can pop home at lunchtime to see us and will be working normal hours instead of 12hr shifts so no more long days on my own... we'll see anyway ((((thinking positive thoughts))))
mine - glad you had a nice day, god, i don't even want to think about going back to work, the plan is for me to work part time but i would give anything to be self employed and to be able to work from home, can't really afford any kind of franchise, i'll have to get researching!
muppet - the baby signing sounds great, hope you can do it and it works out for you!
mrsfish - ds does this ocasionally but is quite good when i leave the room briefly so far, sure this will change though
floria- i often wonder just how much they can understand at this age, one thing that confuses me is that the 'experts' say that when they say mama and dada they don't actually attach that word to you as people until they're nealry a year old even though they may have said it months before... how do they know this? i'm not sure i believe it myself
ejt- hope you caught up on your sleep
J20 - hope you catch up on some sleep too
strawberry- i'm hoping it was just an off week as you say, he's never lost weight before, was just a shock as we were so sure he'd done well this week, ah well.
Oh ds is crying again, better go, hi to everyone i haven't mentioned, catch ya later

ejt1764 · 08/02/2008 18:24

I did catch up on some sleep ... am a much happier bunny now!

  • FT, I was teaching the choir the Marseillaise in French - I was the only French-speaker in the choir ... and I don't speak much Welsh myself - I'm learning, and will be doing my Mynediad exam (entry level, very basic!) in April ...

Dal - Mairwen gets herself into a strop when she refuses to bf too - when she does that, I let her suck on my finger for a while, then pop the boob in ... if that doesn't work, then I sit her up, give her a cuddle, then swap to feed her from the other side - that works 9 times out of 10 ... I'm really impressed with your dedication to bf!

Fingers crossed your dh gets the job!

Winnie - hiya!

Mine - I was thinking the other day that I went back to work after Rhydian in early March (he was an early October b'day too) - goodness knows how I did it ... although I'm in the midset of being off 'til July anyway - and when Rhydian was a baby, I was earning far more than dh, so had very little choice!
It's still not nice to have to think about it!

Muppetgirl - good luck with the baby signing ...

Right, am going to put Mairwen to bed ... then will chase Rhydian upstairs - he needs an early night whether he wants it or not (and more to the point, dh and I need it too!)

Mine · 08/02/2008 18:34

Dal - good luck with the teething! Let us know what works to sooth the little mites as soon as you figure it out. I can't believe we have to go through that trauma too after we have just gotten over the colic phase! Not sure i can do the screaming 24/7 again
Pass on the wisdom!!

Ejt - work are already hassling me about going back. Think they want me back early. Was planning on returning in Sept, to make full use of the year off, but financially its a very difficult thing. We really need to move house in the next 18months so it looks like i have to go back at some time
Wish i could be a stay at home mum, or find something more local but i have to brave the commute into central london and get back in the game..... not the 'game'! You know what i mean!!

Planning a family day trip to Audley End tomorrow.. looking forward to a nice day out. Weather permitting.
DH back t work on monday after 2 weeks off... just got used to having him around to help out again.. boo hoo.

Must play the lottery and win millions so we don;t have to work any more

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FloriaTosca · 08/02/2008 22:36

Muppet; since last weeks taster lesson in baby signing we have been using mummy, daddy, hello, and milk too.

EJT ; glad you got some sleep . And sorry I got the wrong end of the stick..thought it unusual to be doing the french national anthem in Welsh but I've been asked to sing stranger things than that so didnt think twice Hats off to you for learning yet another language..good luck with your exam.

Dal; fingers crossed for your dhs job

Mine and J20 have lovely days/weekends out tomorrow.

Anyasmum; hope the trip to London went well and Daddy coped ok without you, though I'm sure you (and Anya and DH) are glad you are home

Inzi; deepest sympathy on the lack of sleep front ...it makes my lack of sleep look like a lie in!!!Thrilled for Mac, it must be such a relief. So terribly sorry for your sil. And I don't blame you in the least for being angry with your HV why she couldn't be open and honest about her concerns I can't understand. Hope the weight gain continues and allays any slight worries you might have had.

good night all

muppetgirl · 08/02/2008 22:52

Just a quickie as have been cross stitching the sampler and eyes are knackered!

Hi Inzi - I don't know if you read the post about my friend who had the 11lb 8oz baby? Her lo was 12lbs at 12 weeks (or around that I can't remember exactly) and the HV's weren't worried as they reckon my friend had a touch of gestational diabetes right at the end that wasn't detected and this accounted for S*'s big size. They are happy she has met her milestones, eats, puts on little bits of weight and she's growing. They seem to think she was never meant to be a large baby.

I wonder if this worth mentioning at all?
Will read properlay and post tomorrow night all
x

FloriaTosca · 09/02/2008 09:10

Morning all!

Another ok but not brilliant night...Alex slept fine until his second night feed at 5am then had some tummy ache eventually Dh took Alex off to play at 6am so I could get a bit more sleep..they both came back to bed at 7.15 when Alex had fallen asleep but Dh has gone off to the spare room now to catch up as Alex has been awake again and "chatting" to us since 8.15 and shows no sign of needing another nap...so it looks like we have a "morning person" like Daddy...not good when Mummy is naturally a night owl (which often makes me wonder how Dh and I got together at all!)
Well we have Dhs cousins sons 1st birthday party to attend today...must admit I'm not looking forward to it...memories of how I felt last year when he was born etc..Robyn should have been 1 tomorrow and we would have probably shared the party.... Silly isn't it greiving like this? If Robyn had survived I wouldnt have Alex and he is the 8th wonder of the world I truly wouldn't be without him ...I don't understand myself at times......
Right time to shake a leg and get Dh his cooked breakfast on as a thankyou for giving me 2 extra hours sleep. I'll pop in and see how you are all doing later.

MrsFish · 09/02/2008 09:19

Grieving is never silly FT, remember that, even though you have a wonderful little boy now, doesn't mean you can't remember and grieve for Robyn {hugs} xx

ejt1764 · 09/02/2008 09:58

FT - I second MrsFish - the one you have never replaces the one you lost. Thinking about you.

muppetgirl · 09/02/2008 11:40

Floria - Never feel guilty for missing Robyn. It doesn't in the least take anything away about how you feel towards Alex. You lost something so precious after so many losses...

Are you going to do anything to mark the anniversary? Have you somewhere that you go to remember? Maybe this would help, planting a rose may give you somewhere where you can go and remember.

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Dalrymps · 09/02/2008 15:52

hey just wondering, anyone know the titles of the old threads? thought i could read through them when i'm bored seen as though i only joined towards the end oct, be nice to see what happened before i came along

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ejt1764 · 09/02/2008 21:10

oooooh - have just watched codi canu - I was on tv for a whole 30 seconds!

Just wait until the episode when the Cor Y Gleision learn the Marseillaise! I think I'll ratchet up my 15 minutes of fame then !

Going to bed early - spent more time in the chair than in bed last night ... M just wouldn't settle! She's being anointed at church tomorrow - it's the pre-baptism ceremony ... we're going for lunch afterwards ... bang goes the diet!

Mine · 09/02/2008 21:33

ejt - you're famous!!!
Enjoy tomorrow

FT - am so sorry about Robyn, everyone is right.. you never get over it nor forget. You can't help how you feel and there is nothing wrong with that. Just remember the lovely lo you have now.

We had a lovely day out at Audley End today. Took my fab mum along too. The fresh air did us all good, esp. ds, he practically slept all day!!! and is now tucked up in bed.

dh going out for the day tomorrow then we're having a BBQ with the family!! I know you all probably think we're nuts but we have BBQs at any time in the year. Weather is supposed to be good tomorrow so am looking forward to it.
Us Mediterraneans have no concept of seasons!!

ess · 09/02/2008 22:02

Evening everyone. Sorry it's been so long since I posted- I'm still here!
The funeral went as well as it could. My mum didn't turn up which was probable for the best as there wasn't any trouble. She didn't even send any flowers though which was very poor I think. She then phoned my nan, drunk, and had a go at her the next day. She has really shown her true colours this time- really don't care if I see her again.
On a positive note I saw my sister after 6 years and her lovely kids so that was great(long story about why were not very close knit!).
DD had her 3rd birthday last week and my dad,sister and her kids were there. First time we've been together for years- took some lovely pictures of it all. It was a lovely day.
Scarlett is getting more settled every day, still an early riser though. We dream feed her about 12 and she wakes about 5 for another feed9 porker!). DD1 woke up this morning though and wouldn't go back to sleep so were all downstairs at 5:30. Great!
I'm glad you're all enjoying your little ones. Been thinking about work too-really not looking forward to going back. It will probably be in June. Means a week of exams renewing my aircraft licences which will be fun with my "baby brain".
Stefka- how are things? My DD had reflux-it was awful but Gaviscon really settled her. They may try Ranitidine if that doesn't work. Scarlett was tried on both but turned out she had a milk allergy. She's still on Soya milk now.
Seems all the babies are having sore gums. We're using Bonjella and the powders which seem to help a bit. Think they'll be through soon hopefully.
I'll try not to leave it so long next time but things have been a bit manic. I've been trying to spend time with my nan when I can and DD started pre-school last week. She had to wear a uniform and she's only 3. I got really choked up when I left her there-my baby is growing up!
Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

FloriaTosca · 09/02/2008 22:06

Thank you ALL soooo much for your kindness, understanding and support. Inzi, extra thanks to you for letting me know that I'm not going mad..Alex has very similar bone structure as Robyn...I'll be thinking of you and feeling for you next month.
It wasn't as bad as I thought it might be watching H* open his pressies...I only wondered for a moment what Robyn would have looked like...and I spent most of the day feeding and playing with Alex who was a delight today . Muppet; We bought a Rowan tree to plant when we lost Robyn (Robins seem to like the berries)and put it in a large pot knowing we would be moving house...unfortunately the ground here at the new house is dreadful blue clay and we are getting it dug out and replaced this summer so hopefully we will plant it on 1st September (the anniversary of delivering her)Thank you ALL again...I dont know what I would do without you wonderful understanding women.

EJT; you star! I'll be looking for you tomorrow. Have a wonderful ceremony tomorrow and enjoy your lunch...the diet can wait

Mine;we spent most of this afternoon outside it was so lovely...I hope the weather continues to be as beautiful for your BBQ tomorrow.

Off to bed now; have good day tomorrow everyone.

Dalrymps · 10/02/2008 01:28

Thanks inzi, will get reading, should be fun, hope the teething isn't going too bad, weel, finally off to bed here zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

nellieloula · 10/02/2008 09:50

Morning everyone. Floria, hope you're ok - totally agree with what everyone else has said here. Just take your time and look after yourself. Sure Alex will make you smile, which will help enormously I'm sure.

ess, glad that the funeral went well. sorry about your mum, but glad everything else seems a bit more positive family wise.

ejt - happy pre-baptism! It's Madeleine's in a couple of weeks - can't wait!

inzi and dal - hope the teething is improving. baby nurofen works the fastest for the pain (in case you're using calpol which never seemed to touch it for DS)and inzi, great to hear about Jane's weight gain. try not to worry too much about it if you can, seems like she's doing really well.

big hello to everyone else

How is everyone? We're ok - still up 2 or 3 times in the night and having real problems with my milk production. Just doesn't seem to be any there at all which drives Madeleine insane with frustration. She's putting weight on though...at the moment she goes down well at 7 (after an epic feed which takes over an hour, sleeps for 3, or maybe 4 if I'm extremely lucky, hrs, feeds for 30 mins and then settles well, only to be up again 2 hrs later. And that is when the exhaustion becomes overwhelming so I take her into bed. She was sucking away from 2.40-3.50 (better for me though cause I can sleep a bit)and then up properly at 7. I need to find a way of doing one big feed at 11 ish and get her to sleep past the 2 hrs mark.....do you think it would be worth giving her formula then????? would be so great if I could get her to go from 12-5.....if anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I would love to hear them.

sorry to keep going on and on about this - just that I'm getting increasingly concerned at how I'm coping (not great if I'm honest - snapping at DS, hallucinating and eating my body weight in chocolate to keep awake to feed at night, no milk etc etc)spoke to the DR and she just said I need to rest [no!) and find people to help more (much easier said than done when you're 400 miles away from family) I might increase DS's nursery to 3 mornings, but it seems pretty indulgent and finanically tricky when I'm not working - and also means I spend less time with him (mixed blessing - much easier and more restful for me, but boy the guilt is pretty intense!)

all very frustrating. I'll stop ranting though cause it does get so boring, more so for me thinking about it!! It's just a phase and it will get better - DH is here today so has taken both out for a couple of hours os I should go and rest. Will pop back on later in a much better mood! Hope you all have good afternoons and enjoy this lovely weather

ejt1764 · 10/02/2008 16:28

poor nellie - {{{{{hugs}}}}} - really thinking of you ... I have 2 suggestions:

  1. Enlist dh to take a couple of days off work, and you go to bed with Madeleine - eating and sleeping as much as you can for those 2 days - by being close to her, you will up your milk supply ...
  1. Express for about 2 - 3 minutes before you latch her on for a feed - it may well be not that you're not producing the milk, but that your let-down is slow, which can be very frustrating for babies

will carry on thinking and let you know if I think of anything else ....

nellieloula · 10/02/2008 17:57

thanks ejt - really appreicate that thank you. Actually, DH took them both out this am and I rested, read, drank coffee at leisure etc for 3 hours. Made a HUGE difference - more milk than ever when I came to feed her. So I think I need to do more of that. The prbblem for us is that DH works freelance so taking time off work isn't an option (last time he took a day off so I could go to a funeral without DS he lost the rest of he job! so he won't be hurrying to do that again!) I think I just needed to get it all off my chest and sort some stuff out in my head - so thank you so much for listening. hope your day has been ok?? I've got an exciting evening - 2 of our friends are nominated for Baftas so we'll be watching with everthing crossed! (except the fingers holding my much needed glass of wine) have a good and restful evening everyone

Mine · 10/02/2008 19:30

nellie - good luck with the bf. Exciting about your friends.. who are they ?? we can watch out for them too!

alicet · 10/02/2008 19:55

Hello ladies!

Sorry I haven't been about much... It was Sam's 2nd birthday yesterday so was relaly busy on Friday preparing for that and then obviously on the day itself. MIL came up and also unexpectedly so did BIL - just for the day from Hertfordshire! We were heading out for the morning and bumped into him on our road comign towards our house - said 'oh hi!' and took about a minute to realise that he wasn't someone we should be expecting to bump into!

Then had a big party in the afternoon for 10 of Sam's friends so it was bedlam! I had made a massive fire engine to go over the kitchen units and we had loads of balloons - we set this all up for Sam while he was sleeping at lunchtime so he was very excited! Took him a little while to get into the swing of things but think he really enjoyed his party in the end.

Have just skim read in a vain attempt to catch up. Should know by now that taking more of a day off is a disaster!!! So hope I haven't missed anything huge...

Floria belated big hugs for you. Think today is the anniversary of Robyn's birthday? Hope you've got through the day and that although he will never replace her Alex has made it a little easier to bear...

Inzi at hv being so underhand - totally understand why you were pissed off!

Ejt - you are famous!!! OMG!

Nellie - big hugs honey. Sounds like you are having a stressful time. For what it's worth I don't think it's indulgent to put ds into nursery for a coupole of extra sessions. Having Sam in nursery 3 days a week is what keeps me sane. And it sounds like this would be worth it's weight in gold. Also formula at night made a MASSIVE difference with Sam - he slept for 4 hours after having previously been a feed an hour, sleep an hour kind of baby. However Adam is ff and is still waking at about 11, 2 and 5 so it's not the magic answer for him. May be worth a shot though - depends how important bf is to you but even if it doesn't buy you the extra time what it will do is mean dh can help and if you go to bed early you can catch up then.

Ess glad funeral went as OK as it could.

Big hugs to everyone else - I will try to keep in touch better this week although Mum is up Tues to Thurs so might be a bit sporadic then....

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