October '04 babies - Roll call!

[florenceuk]

OK, here is the list I have so far:

Eyelash (age 36) - DS3 arrived 5 October
Toots (age 37) - DD1 3 - DD2 arrived 5 October
Cazzybabs - DD born 7 October
sooz31 - DD arrived 7 October
Distracted - DS arrived 9 October
florenceuk (age 38) - DS 3 - DD arrived 13 October
Huppa, (age 37) dd now 21months - DS born 14 October
Bibiboo (age 25) DD arrived 15 October
Rickman - DS arrived 16 October
geoteach (age 33) - ds1 3 dd 10 months, DS2 born 16 October
Nailpolish - DD2 arrived 17 October
Piglit (age 36) - DS born 19 October
Miffy2 (age 35) - 22nd October dd 5 DS1 2 - DS2 arrived 22 October
Beansprout (age 35???) - 1 dsd (16). DS born 25 October
Bellie - DD arrived 30 October
Turtle35 (age 35) - DD arrived 31 October

I've taken this from the old pregnancy thread so there are some odd bits of info floating round eg age and other children. Excuse me if I've got any of this wrong, as my sleep-deprived brain barely capable of putting this list together! Any amendments please speak now, and we can start the new thread!

happi new year everyone . i had a quiet xmas with DP and baba, she is 3 months old tmrw and never shuts up as for the past 4 days she is shouting really loud and wakes everyone up in the mornings (oops).. baba had a tummy bug for the past 3 weeks now as her poo is runny but she is happy and no high temp. Day after boxing day baba met a another baba for the first time (the other baba is 4 months and my baba couldnt help but gawp!). tonite is a open house tonite so people come and go . my new year resolution is to join the gym with my DP and couple of mates too.

i never had any probs with putting baba down in her cot as soon she drops off for the night, i put her straight down inthe cot and leave her. my SIL had been staying here for the past 3 weeks as her boiler had packed in and she had been waiting for a boiler man to fix her boiler BUT whenever baba is crying, SIL pick her up straight and baba was getting used to it, till i told SIL not to pick her up straight away, just leave her to cry for a bit. baba is back how she used to be (thanks god for that). i couldnt drink over xmas due to tummy infection from c-section as didnt know i still had it so tonite is DRINKING time with my baileys.. mmmm! i think ill start now byeeeeeeeeeeeee

Anyone else sleep through the new year?!
Florence I think given the choice between London and New Zealand i'd be with you, tho' I don't envy you the flight, before I had kids I thought i'd keep up my jetsetting ways now I think i'd need to be offered good money to fly long haul iwth my brood!
Toots I have every symapthy DS1 is throwing amazing strops including a blaster on boxing day for the rest of my family when DH was at work! DS2 also has a cough which is waking him, though he did go through one night (now i've posted that it will never happen again )and had regularly only been waking up once but seem to be back to square one now.
DS2 is going to have to move in with DS1 this week as he nolonger fits in the moses basket, not sure how thats going to work, anyone else made the move to big cot / seperate room yet?
Anyone else want to join me and bean in London in Feb for a grown up night out?

Happy New Year everyone!
We did stay up but it all felt a bit rubbish really... did sneak in and kiss Bean though, which was lovely.

Bean won't sleep for more than a couple of hours during the day but is fine of a night, so am not going to grumble about that one. Is a bit of a concern that he seems to have so little sleep (about 10-12 hours a day, absolute max) but he just doesn't seem to want any more, no matter what we do. Is eating a lot too so he has obviously grasped the stuff-yourself-at-christmas principle. Alas so have I so preg weight not going anywhere just yet. Ahem.

geo - no my baba had not made it to her own bedroom yet as im on maternity leave till end of march 05 so not rushing baba to her own room as yet as she sleeps thru the night. (9 hrs sleep and 4 hours sleep during the day - 2 hrs there and another 2 hrs at a different time) but she is waking up with her cough (caught it from me as ive had this cough for the past 4 weeks - the cough bug)

brussels - maybe your baba is not a sleepy baba in the day but as long is sleeping thru the night and everyones happy, i wont go past more than 14 -15 hrs with mine.. ive still got abit of pre-preg weight as ive already lost a stone and half since 01/10. im joining the gym next week but gotta eat all the xmas foods first - im not wasting them

Hi everyone
We had a quiet, but really enjoyable Christmas. Have to admit we slept through new year - decided a couple of hours sleep were better than a bad mood today through celebrating too much last night.

Toots and Geogteach - sympathies on the tantrums fronts. DD has thrown some unbelievable ones over Christmas including a half hour mega tantrum in town the other day.

DS still waking up twice in the night, so no improvement there. We moved him from his moses basket into his cot (in our room) about 3 weeks ago with no noticeable improvement or deterioration in his sleep. He does sleep lots during the day, so have thought about cutting this back, but as he goes staight back to sleep after his feeds in the night, not sure this would make much difference except a more grumpy baby during the day.

Happy New Year! Haven't been on here for a while. Hope everyone had good christmas's and new years . I'm afraid I slept through new year last night as well, didn't even try to stay up - it's the first new year we've spent on our own since I can remember. Have to say we haven't exactly partied since dd arrived 2.5 years ago, but have always spent new year with friends (dd was 8 months old by the first new year, so it was easier). This year it was just too much like hard work!

Toots - can really sympathise about your dd. DD is also v. prone to tantrums at the moment, although maybe worse is almost constant whingeing. I'm sure I make things worse as the whingeing drives me up the pole and I'm quite short tempered with her. I do feel bad as she has certainly been much worse since ds arrived and wants a million cuddles a day and is continually telling us she loves us, which is presumably for reassurance (so that we say we love her too - which of course we always do). She is still extra shy too and clings to me for the first 10-20 minutes whenever we go to anyone's house. It is obviously caused by ds's arrival (fortunately she loves him to bits and he gets lots of cuddles too and she tells him she loves him several times a day as well). I just wonder when she'll feel more normal again? That's not to say that whingeing and tantrums aren't normal of course (it's the extent of them that's changed and being so clingly and over-sensitive)

So good to hear similar stuff! Distracted very nice to hear from you. dd1 same with the i love you. like you, short temper, but N Y res is to keep on an even keel and so far getting good results -also eat 5 fruit and veg and floss every day

My utmost respect to all of you who have other children at the moment. Seriously.

Came back from mum & dad's today and have been very tearful. Feels like the initial phase is over, plus xmas is all done and now the year stretches ahead and I'm tired and emotional and daunted by it all. I'm so used to organising the life out of everything and seeing things all done and this just isn't like that which is a big adjustment. Will try not to get too analytical about it but did have a good chat with a friend about the adjustment into motherhood and it seems I have all the classic symptoms!!

Hope you are all getting some sleep and your new years are happy.

Question - Bean has his first lot of jabs this week (some of you prob on your second by now?). If he has a reaction to it, what can I expect and what can I do? TIA.

Beansprout - give Calpol half an hour before the injection and six hours later if he has a reaction (high temperature). Hopefully though he should be fine. DD cried when she had the jabs but otherwise was fine. DS had a very sleepy day but also otherwise fine.

On your point re the next phase of motherhood - it sounds like your DS is coming along really well and within the next few months he is sure to fall into something more like a routine during the day - so you will feel more in control of things. Plus you have the advantage that he seems to be sleeping and that always makes things much much better (unlike my DD). IMO six months is a lovely time - they are smiley and happy, hopefully sleeping much better and interacting heaps - something to look forward to!

Today I was looking at my great big toddler and wondering where that cute baby went - as he launched himself around the lounge and generally ran riot. He is definitely suffering from the green-eyed monster and cannot be trusted with DD on his own as has tendency to over-enthusiastically hug her or try and pick her up. Even refuses to allow her to use the baby gym! so DD is not getting a lot of floor time at the moment. One of the benefits of the holiday is having DH around to take him out - I am not that confident enough to take both of them out unless I am pretty sure DD won't want a feed. And even then there is a good chance DD will wail her way around the shops regardless of what we do! Dread to think what next week will be like without nursery or DH around...

Another thing - I'm fed up with being fat and not being able to fit my pre-pregnancy clothes and not going shopping! But haven't curbed my chocolate consumption yet (or done my pelvic floor or abdominal exercises either) so have no excuse.

I'm back now - you'll remember was poorly when pg and then babe was prem, but we're back.

How is everyone and their DDs and DSs? My DD is small, but perfectly formed! We've been told to expect her to lag behind everyone else for a while.

Was at childminder today sorting everything ready for work, which I am not looking forward to.

Is everyone else going back? lol

Thanks Florence, feel better about the jabs now.

Gave in today and braved the sales to get some size up clothes as my old shape still seems to be a little way off. Bit depressing but nice to have some new gear. Still all that chocolate from xmas though... what's a girl to do?!

Hi Allyco - good to hear from you! Are you ok now after the op?
Glad DD is ok.
Am going back but not for a while. Dreading it already though

Allyco - great to hear from you. Must have been a tough few months. I'm going back to work three days a week from start of April. I work at home writing, and am planning to start on a new piece of work that I will try and fit in on an ad-hoc basis to have ready by the work start date, so I have something fresh for my agent to send around. So that would mean starting kind of now, in DD2's nap times. Right. Hmmm. Did I just say now???

Beansprout, I know exactly what you mean. I found it really weird when dd1 was this age, not quite sure what the project was, so didn't know how to manage it - too nebulous, too...ongoing!!!. I found embracing the whole mummy and baby thing quite helpful - getting one or two specific dates for the pair of us per week: baby massage at about 3/4 months was quite a good focus. You will meet nice local mums, you will, you will, you will. Seek them out via any kind of class, yoga whatever. I felt oddly lechy trying to seek people out at first, but do it, it takes a while for things to blossom. They are not just important as friends, they provide a community, invite you round and out to places, and provide small guests for Bean to ignore (for a while yet )

Out for a curry tonight with dp. Hoo hah.

Bean wouldn't worry too much about jabs I was told less likely to have reaction with new 5 in 1 and that definately seemed to be the case here. Agree with Toots about getting some mummy mates, i'm still in touch with most of mine from first time round (had lunch with some today, these the DH's get on too which is even better). Do your hospital have post natal classes for first time mums, for me these were far better for meeting people than antenatal, also try post natal exercise or mother and baby yoga (kill too birds with one stone), wish I could do these but need to find sitter for the others!
Allyco full respect for getting back to work, 3rd time round i'm not bothering but it is quite tempting when DS1 is going off on one, nursery tomorrow for DS1 and DD so the cot project begins!

Allyco - great to hear from you again. So pleased that you and dd are well ( I assume you´re well as you´re going back to work).
I´m not going back to work - mainly because I haven´t got a job to go back to ( I moved to Germany) and even if I wanted to there is no childcare available where I live until the children start kindergarten at 3. I think if I´d of stayed in England I would probably have gone back part-time.

Beansprout - excellent advice from Toots. It really does help meeting up with other mums who are in the same position as you.

Florence - can really relate to you at the moment. We stupidly let dd help ds open his Christmas presents and she now thinks they all belong to her and goes mad if we try to give him anything to look at.

Toots - enjoy your curry tonight.

huppa - we lived in Germany for a while but before children.

beansprout - know how you feel. I don't know anyone with new babe. The only class at the GP was full of sixteen and seventeen year olds! am well after op but radiotherapy not nice - i don't recommend it.

geogteach - don't want to go back to work but needs must.

toots - your DD has naps how do you do it

Hi Allyco - sounds like things worked out OK on health front, so congratulations! I'm going back to work but not till after Easter - depends on when I sort out my childcare. Hardly worth it financially but will be longer term as I can't really afford to have a big career break. I suspect I might end up waiting until after the election though as nothing will be happening from now until then! Toots much admiration for starting writing now - I can't even sort my washing at the moment (actually my tax return is even more pressing!)

same to me as im not starting work until april 05 but ive been made redundant whilst i was preg (good timing eh!) and also everyone is laid off too... so gotta look for work about feb/ march.

baba been really good but as she got this tummy bug - she got runny poo - she had been waking up in the night - but today she slept thru like she usually do - she have 9 hrs overnite sleep and then 4 hours in the day (2 there and the other 2 at different time)

when do i start putting baba in her rountine for when i go back to work in april? as seh is a rountine at the mo but at the wrong time as she falls asleep between midnite to 1am and i need for her to go to sleep at 9 or 10am. how do i do it?

Biglips, start waking her at 7am (or about 12 hours before you want her to go to sleep). In theory, she should adjust so that her bed time is about 12 hours later. Ha!

DD seems to be getting worse, not better! Now waking 2-3hrly at night, not 3-4 hrly - urgh. Screamed when I tried to persuade her that 2.30am was an unsociable time to feed esp as she'd only finished feeding about 1 1/2hrs ago. Warned DS in the morning that I was very irritable and proved true to my word.

Beansprout, my problem is that my boobs are a size 12, my tummy is a 14 and my hips are a size 10 - can't seem to find anythimg that looks remotely OK, even new. Mind you, have only one bar of Xmas chocolate to go now...

Its kind of nice to know other people aren't in thei old clothes yet. My tummy is Ok but my thighs seem to have tripled in size - I kid you not. Very depressing!

DD2 had her 1st jab yesterday and cried all evening but them slept for 8 hours - a miracle.

We had a good Christmas - I ate and drank too much and have put weight back on . Off to Sweeden tomorrow.

Hope everyone else had a good Xmas

Hi there, I just logged onto this site yesterday and noticed this thread this morning, I hope you guys don't mind if I join in.

My DS is an October baby (25th) and I'm a 38yr old first time mum living in London.

All is going well and we seem to be having the same concerns as everybody else over sleep, immunisations, sleep, feeding, sleep, weight loss and sleep.

Florence, good luck with your trip to NZ, we're going to Australia in April and I'm already dreading the flight. We're thinking of breaking up the trip with stop overs in asia out and back, but I know that it's still going to be a nightmare.

Hello and welcome to Michmash. Our sons were born on the same day! I'm also a 1st timer and in London (NW). Whereabouts are you?

First jabs this morning. Bean screamed the place down. Nurse said "oh, he seems really upset". Yes, well, you have JUST STUCK TWO NEEDLES IN HIM!! Still, he seems ok at the moment, will see how this afternoon goes.

Cazzybabs and Florence - I too have monster thighs, which means I look awful in jeans now (not that they were ever my best option). Ho hum. Keep reminding myself that this is a high class problem though, and not to get too bogged down in it, although I do have my moments.
Flo - sorry you are still having regular nightly disturbances.
Biglips - hope Baba is feeling better.
Toots - exactly, exactly right - I am not quite sure what the project is. Seem to find stuff to do each day but not sure if that is what I am supposed to do for the next few months until I go back to work. Again though, am trying not to worry about it too much.
I am SO a woman with too much time to think about herself at the moment!!!! Arghh!!

Hi Beansprout, I'm also in NW London area (NW2).

My DS had his 2 needles last week and had no bad reacations, accept for the screaming of course. DH stayed at home and let me be the bad guy and take DS to the doctor to be jabbed. I'm still in a slight quandry about whether or not it's the right thing to do but as I haven't invested the time in any other options, I feel that we have to have the jabs. I've been told that as there is no mercury in the jabs anymore the chances of side effects are less, but I still felt a little rail roaded into it.

Hope your DS has a good day and doesn't feel unwell from the jab.

Ah, neighbours!! I'm in NW10!

Bean ok(ish), a bit grizzly, but no temperature. Making lots of new noises though. Seems to like the sound of his own voice (just like his mum then)

Need to get off my butt and dismantle the xmas tree. Don't they look pathetic after xmas, which now seems like a very long time ago...

Know what you mean about the jabs MM. It has crept up on me even though I had lots of good intentions re looking into it all. Suspect it is going to be like that with lots of things from now on!