may babies get sevenny

[spots]

Nice here eh? Seven is a lovely magic number.

DD has horrible cough off DH. They are both hacking away like nanny goats so our house is rather noisy and I s'pose I'll have to get it too, sooner or later. A real workout for the immune system at 6 months anyway.

Think maybe my purees were a little bit lumpy for DD. She really went for the bought stuff I gave her today, and I was quite reassured. Anyone actually tried the Hipp apple and blueberry? So tasty I could have it on toast , no probs.

Georgina hope your hands, feet and mouths are OK.

Twiglett you are a rascal... sleeping through eh? what on earth is she thinking of?

Think I would rather miss my little overnight fixes of DD if she didn't remind me of her presence every 3 hours or so.

Happy New Year everyone! we had a hellish night before New Years Eve and so I was dreading the actual event but he was so worn out come 10.30 that he settled beautifully - then he woke at 12.30 thanks to the fireworks outside the window . . . didn't take long to settle him back down though - so not bad.

The only downer is that he has learnt to throw a strop that would shame Elton John whenever he wants something his own way - and to add insult to injury he has to learnt to shake his head when you assert the word NO . . . which makes putting your assertion across very difficult because you can't help but giggle.

I have spent the week coming to terms that my little baby is disappearing very fast - I look at him and see a cheeky monkey in the making!

Glad we are all safe, well and happy xxxxx

and don't even start me on the babbling - it is relentless . . . but lovely

Nice to hear about everyone's new year. Egypt I don't think DD is anything like as difficult as your DD at night - we virtually never have to go to her in the evening although we haven't given her any lactulose since Friday and I think she is getting constipated again so might be unsettled. She's getting very cheeky - we were at my Mum's today and she was passing a box of those Elizabeth Shaw mints around and you could see DD was miffed at not getting one. Anyway was holding DD on my lap and joining in a game with DS and the next thing I know DD has grabbed a chocolate and is stuffing it into her mouth complete with foil wrapper.

see women and chocolate .. it starts early

Definitely her mother's daughter - I've put on half a stone during the festivities.

difficult bozza? i'll give you bloody difficult!! woke about 6-7 times BEFORE midnight!!! didnt bf, but even 5 more oz of formula after the 8 she drank at 7pm wasnt enough. bf her at1230 and she woke mostly each hour until 8. aaarrrrrrgggh, i am really losing it. do you think its a reaction against the milk?

morning all!

Horrayy DD is crawling properly. Nothing is safe anymore.

Egypt, sorry that your having awful nights. I hope it improves soon.

Back to work tomorrow so im off to get some clothes ready and salvage the dinner im currently burning

Is it monday today? think so... quiet today...

DD has her first temperature so I am a bit worried not knowing what to expect. Our digital thermometer is crap and tells me my own temp is 36 so I don't know what hers is, she just is hot and droopy or angry (*as now - DH bathing her). A friend of mine has a DD who had febrile convulsions so I'm all wondering about that now. What would happen if her temp went up and she had one in the midle of the night when nobody was there?

Egypt perhaps your DD will be quite, quite different with your mum from how she s with you. It might be quite good for her in a way... your mum does sound lovely, but at the same time she'll have to be pretty hardline about what happens in the middle of the night because of the lack of bf facilities. It might be like a nice version of sleep training... The Lovely Granny Method. maybe.

Libb head shaking! wowee... that's why baby signing happens at this age I suppose.

oh dear I must go and see what traumas are being inflicted in the bathroom...

Spots Calpol often helps to bring a temperature down. Hope you are not too worried about DD and that she's better soon. Sorry Egypt did I touch a raw nerve about the sleeping. I did decide that DD was taking the piss the other night and refused to breast feed her at midnight. It took us until 20 to 2 to get back to sleep and then I fed her at 4.30 am when she woke again. FWIW I don't think your DD really needs all that formula at night - but of course what you do about it is another question.

Just out of interest who is still breastfeeding? And to what extent? I am bedtime and at least once in the night. But often I'm feeding about 4 or 5 and so don't bother first thing because DD is OK until breakfast then.

oh no bozza, sorry, i was only messing!
you didnt touch a raw nerve just letting you all know that my dd is difficult beyond reason! i am here doing cc at the mo and it is horrid. i am desperate to feed her. i agree she doesn t need all that formula at night. she wouldnt take a formula bedtime feed tonight though so bf her. now she is screaming. tried formula but she wont take it. took a bit of water though. i dont want to bf. she cant be starving. she had 3 meals today although not a great deal of milk, but she SHOULD be able to last the night. even if she's hungry she needs to learn doesnt she? oh i hate this. is anyone around?

spots, i do hope your dd is better soon. sorry, i do wallow in my own probs a bit too much, but i am soooo blinking tired of all this.

Happy New Year everyone!

Sorry you're getting no sleep Egypt. At best, dd2 takes a feed (it was a bottle tonight) at 7.30 then a last (breast)feed at 11 - 12 - depends when I go to bed - and (usually when she's ill and for a couple of weeks after) she can wake again at anytime between 2 and 5am and I feed her.
Cc did work for us but not instantly, and every time she had a cold (she's had three so far this winter) we went backwards.

Bozza, I'm still breastfeeding - trying to get it down to once at night and first morning feed but sometimes I have milk and sometimes there seems to be nothing there. Generally it's on it's way out I think.
Problem with dd2 is that she won't eat. VERY small amounts, a few spoonfuls of baby cereal - won't touch Weetabix - if she eats half a four month jar for lunch (or a few spoonfuls of homemade puree) and a jar of pudding or a yoghurt I'm lucky. I did try giving her avocado in her hand and veg with lumps in, but she spat it all out. She tends to eat more in the evening but still a lot less than you'd expect for her age, so I'm trying to keep on with some bf to ensure she's getting the right nutrition. She will have sips of juice with water from a Tommee Tippee first cup, but not many and not regularly. Hoping for a long chat with the hv to sort some of this out next week (I WILL pin her down to giving me some advice!)
Ho hum back at work on Monday.

Egypt - I'm so sorry you're having a horrible time. Could there be something wrong that you've just not thought about? I mean things like:- too hot, too cold etc. We found DS sleeps a lot better on a slight incline (little pillow under the mattress) - I think his bedtime milk used to flow back up and give him a bit of heartburn! We also found that he would wake up and cry about 9pm and then in the night if he had had a tomato sauce with his pasta. Indigestion? Too rich? Who knows. Just really rack your brains and see if you can see a pattern at all.
When does DD sleep in the day? How long for in total? Sorry, have you been through this on MSN with the others already? CC isn't nice to do at all. Is your HV nice? Could you talk to them and ask for any suggestions, or tell them when and what DD is eating and ask for their advice?
Sorry if this reads like utter tosh, take care and I hope you get some sleep.

Are we due a new thread soon? This one is getting a little unwieldy again.

Sorry I haven't posted for ages, I keep meaning to but don't really have any news. Ds1 is being particularly cute with ds2 at the moment - he'd been whingy and quite negative with ds2 over Christmas but I've been making a concerted effort to demonstrate that he's loved and valued too (with the busyness of the holiday, we'd got into a bit of a rut with us snapping at ds1 because he was whiny and naughty and being pleasant to ds2 because... well, he's not naughty and it's not fair to take it out on him!) and it seems to have made a huge difference.

Ds2 is getting very active now - can travel vast distances with rolling, spinning around so we've put up the stairgates and I hate them already. Such a pain when I need to get upstairs. Not crawling yet though, but his first Tumbletots session is this morning!! I must be mad...

Still breastfeeding 3 feeds a day, but quite short distractable feeds. Part of me wilts at the thought of breastfeeding ever ending, the other part of me wants my body back now. Haven't quite reconciled that yet. Shall carry on as is for now though.

I'm the same with the breastfeeding Georgina - sort of torn. And TBH I don't think DD is that bothered. I think DH is taking her to the clinic today to get weighed - I'm urging her towards 20lb so she can go in the forward facing car seat because she makes so much fuss in the backwards one. She eats like a pig but doesn't put much weight on - obviously got her father's metabolism, something she'll be grateful for in later life.

torn with bf too. obv it happens in the night, whether i want it to or not to keep some sanity but in the day, i've tried to put her on more of a routine with formula. in my bid to get more down her in the day. she still prefers a bf though.

judd you could be right. i dont think she's too hot or cold. she has a long sleeved vest on and a babygrow with a 2.5tog sleeping bag. our house is 18deg at the most during the night. sometimes i put a cardigan on her in the night too as her arms feel cold even through 2 layers. but....now i think about it, the bad bad bad nights began when dh lowered her cot. The SAME time i took the towels out from under her mattress from her last cold! I've just put them back the instant i read your post. She did have a tomato and mozarella thing for tea. maybe i'll try and avoid the tomatoes as they can be quite acidic?

last night she didnt wake hourly from bedtime. she woke at 1015. but i was being stubborn and trying to do cc. she finally stopped whinging, (and that's mostly all she was doing) an hour later. i was about to go to bed 10 mins later and she wakes again. yes i gave in, and bf her. then she still woke at 1. took her into spare bed with me and she went til 3, 5, 8. she drank like a goodun at 3. really really loads. i was falling asleep mid bf and was being woken by the loud swallows!

so i dont know what the next step is at all. going to babygroup today. perhaps suss out some mum's ideas.

i'm giving dd a bottle of formula about every 4 hours. one mid morning before nap, one about 230pm and one before bed. do you think this is enough? or is every 4 hours actually too much with them on solids? she doesnt drink much. and its rare that she even takes her bedtime bottle which is why i end up bf her. the 230 one she seems to take most. i know she is getting her quota though since she is getting lots at night. perhaps once that drops then she will take 3 bottles through the day.

Hi everyone

Awww aren't they all growing up? congrats to the crawlers! Kiera hasn't even discovered her knees yet, so i think it may be a while with us. She has disovered "ba" though, and she loves it when we say it and she repeats it. We've had a couple of "ma"s and a couple of "da"s as well, but not really on purpose, so i don't think it counts as a first word.

Egypt- Huge sympathys, sleep deprevation is the worst form of torture, you'll hopefully get a much needed rest when you go to Prague. I hope you get some good advice from other mummys at your baby group.

Bozz- you've answered a question i've been wondering about for a while, about the forward facing car seats. Kiera, who always loved the car, has suddenly started disliking going in her seat. She calms down, but she actualy cries when she's put in it now and it's so rare for her to cry, we were wondering if she'd be happier in a forward facing one. I don't think she weighs 20lbs yet though.

Georgina- I was wondering about a new thread as well, it is getting long isn't it? Sorry i haven't said hi on msn recently, just been so busy, and i've just been popping on quickly to catch up on this thread and send a few mails. If you're still around later i'll say hello

Spots- Tempretures are really worrying aren't they? Convulsions are rare though, i don't think they happen with a temp unless it's over about 40. Could be teething. Calpol or Medised will help lower it also apparently a cold cloth to the back of the neck and wrists.

Libb- and anyone else who might be interested, My social life is rather, well, non existent at the mo, shall we have another go at a meet up?

Susi- Hope you're having a lovely time!

Take care everyone

Lots of love
Cat
xxxxx

I have lots of 'yes me too's to add... yes with helsy on the eating small amounts, yes with bozza on the forward facing car seats. How DD will get to 20lbs eating as she does I don't know. I am also bfeeding quite a lot still in order to keep the plants watered.
DD is much the same today, not well at all poor girly. Going to get hold of another thermometer today... what a chore these things turn into when chemists are closed for holidays.

Egypt I saw you had added to Mears' thread on feeding under 1's at night. What do you think about all that? You know I am a night feeder in the end and not a hundred per cent sold on it but how much would you just go with the night feeds if she woke maybe a bit less often? It seems to me you're doing a lot of work and she's dead set on her night feeds. Maybe if you went with it for a bit she might slow down. I just wonder if doing cc but then not doing it a couple of times, or giving her formula but then a bf later on, is making her ask for bf's more just to make sure it's still there for her. if you know what I mean. Maybe she's a bit confused, or a bit more persistent, just wanting to assert her bf rights! Am saying this definitely in spirit of someone who feels they have similar problem so please don't be annoyed at my bigsisterishness... I am too lazy to give up any sleep to cc at he moment, tho am sure my time will come. you sound like you're getting pretty tired out by it all. xxx

DD always cries loudly on going in her car seat and I remember having an even worse problem with it with DS (at the age of 6 months and on a journey to Cornwall he decided he would not sleep in his seat - nightmare). The only saving thing for DD is having DS in the back with her. Will ring DH shortly to see if she has been to the clinic.

spots, i am definitely confusing her methinks. the only reason i am sticking to this bottle thing is because of us going away and i'm sure i'll resort back to bf when we get back. hopefully she might settle into a better pattern again then and then look at weaning her off it in the future. anything for sleep, definitely. i'm just so worried by bf her at the mo she wont survive when i'm away!! feeding the under 1's is fine if you can do it. i find it hard to sleep with dd in bed with me, every noise wakes me. unless i am shattered like last night! i dont want to spend the night in bed with dd all the time though and wont want another habit to break. get up, feed, back to sleep is great. she just doesnt sleep for long anymore. maybe its teeth, maybe something else. funny, but she had her last feed at6am this morning and didnt want any until just half an hour ago. midday! she's all wrong. i will only bf her today, have decided,, that way she gets it more often and hopefully will need less tonight.

Egypt I do think the spell with your mum will be good for her. A familiar face who just cannot bf her. Might be hard work for your poor mum... but in many ways just what you need. just think, a couple of nights' uninterrupted sleep... what a birthday present! how many nights is it?

Bozza, yes, our dd roars in car seat too. Hope you reach the longed for 20lbs. Annoyingly could have taken dd to our own baby clinic today for weighing for same reason, but with her being poorly don't fancy waving her germs around.

its 2 nights spots. do hope your dd is better soon.

dd screamed in her first car seat. it was a travel system one and got just too tight for her. we went for a britax first class as a christmas pressie, which faces rearwards from birth and forwards up to 4 years. shes still rearwards but has much more room and cries no more

erk... bit freaked out... went in to check on DD and she was just lying there with her eyes open, looking over to one side. She didn't look at me or acknowledge me when I came in and I picked her up but she was quite quiet and pale. When O took her through to the kitchen she smiled a little bit at DH but stayed awake and quiet and pale for about half an hour in the sitting room with us. I thoguht maybe she might be sick or something but no. Just completely unresponsive, or almost... normally when I go out the room she grumbles but not tonight and when I came back in just a little kick of the legs. She has gone back to bed now but I will sleep with her tonight. Temp doesn't seem any higher... if anything lower... very weird. anyone any thoughts???

phone NHS direct now just to be safe - they won't see it as pointless, far better to be safe than sorry. Let us know how you get on xxxxxxxxx

and you're prob. all thinking 'poor kid what does that spots think she's going to be like after being dragged out of bed? little thing's just knackered'. But it wasn't like that; she never hardly even blinked. normally she is so responsive.

yeh maybe will Libb thanks...