may babies get sevenny

[spots]

Nice here eh? Seven is a lovely magic number.

DD has horrible cough off DH. They are both hacking away like nanny goats so our house is rather noisy and I s'pose I'll have to get it too, sooner or later. A real workout for the immune system at 6 months anyway.

Think maybe my purees were a little bit lumpy for DD. She really went for the bought stuff I gave her today, and I was quite reassured. Anyone actually tried the Hipp apple and blueberry? So tasty I could have it on toast , no probs.

Georgina hope your hands, feet and mouths are OK.

Twiglett you are a rascal... sleeping through eh? what on earth is she thinking of?

Think I would rather miss my little overnight fixes of DD if she didn't remind me of her presence every 3 hours or so.

[egypt]

yes bozza you're right, just prepping myself for return and working out exactly how to get through the next 2 nights without bf.

come to neeeeeeewwwwww thread.

[Bozza]

Well for a start I think if I offered DD water in the night she'd go beserk but each to their own (and we've made a breakthrough on that front today - she's decided she'll share my sports bottle of water with me). I got up and cuddled her for maybe five minutes and all was quiet and then put her back in her cot and she cried crossly immediately and continued crying for 10 minutes while I laid in bed and listened. Then I booted DH out of bed and he did the same and the same thing happened. Then I went again (so we're probably at 45 minutes by now) and then I think DH went again and she'd be quiet every time we picked her up and cry every time we put her down. The second night I think we picked her up twice and then the third night only once. I wouldn't say we're home and dry yet but definitely think the night feeding has to be eliminated now. Also DH is on at me not to pick her up but just go and stroke her in future but not sure yet.

TBH Egypt don't think you can achieve much before your Prague trip so probably best concentrating on avoiding breast feeding since thats the main issue for the weekend. IMO of course.

[egypt]

i mean that sounds great SPOTS. d'oh

i am going to start one......if thats ok

[egypt]

that sounds GREAT Bozza. talking of moving, please can we start a new thread? or is judd locked out?

[spots]

I think we should all move into a big seven month old baby commune and our babies can teach each other all the good things they've learned while we sit around and drink gin& tonic.

[egypt]

happy birthday for tomorrow kbaby. ooo, another capricorn

bozza, nice to hear that you pick up dd and cuddled her. did you do that all the nights at the first waking? when you say you put her down and she wasnt happy and was awake for 1hr 40 mins, what did you do? did you leave her or do cc, or cuddle or what ? sorry to be so nosey, i am very interested! will try a cuddle with dd when she wakes tonight and maybe a little water. the other night i just cuddled her and it was enough to calm her and she went back and fell asleep. but wont do that in the small hours. hmm well, tbh, i dont even bother trying i am so tired most nights.

yes rearward facing are safer i spose, especially when they are tiny as their necks arent strong enough. so on impact, their heads dont fly forward just push into the back of the seat. yes, why DO they face forward from 9 months then if rear is more safe? i know their necks are stronger by then, but even so..... and i suppose it is more interesting looking to the front...

curiouser and curiouser!

[Bozza]

Happy Brithday kbaby/ Any plans?

And snap with the drinking cups. Actually works OK and then I knock them out into a freezer bag in my busting at the seams freezer.

[Bozza]

Right I will explain a bit more about DD's sleep. Couldn't this afternoon because she got diagnosed with conjunctivitis today and chucked out of nursery so I had to take my first half day holiday of the year to look after a baby who was perfectly well and happy as long as I let her stand up all the time. Keep telling her that she's only a baby and can't stand up but she won't listen.

She had been doing quite well and was just about going through but then had a cold, got constipated (so doing small amounts of poo 2/3 times in the night) etc and was a bit set back. As you know she is eating really well - 3 big and quite solid two course meals a day, plus 2 7 oz bottles and bedtime breast feed. She got to the point where she was waking at about 11.30-12 (ie when I'd just been in bed a little while but was already asleep) for a feed and then again later at 4.30-5.30. So I decided when she'd had a big tea at 6 pm and a breastfeed at 7.15 pm she couldn't really be hungry by midnight (bearing in mind she's gone through before). So on Sun she woke up at midnight and we did CC (but not properly because we picked her up and cuddled her and then put her back). The cuddling settled her she wasn't looking for food so knew she wasn't really hungry but didn't settle her enough to make her happy to go back in her cot. She was awake for 1hr 40 min. Then woke again at 4.30 and I fed her. Mon night it was 12.30 for 20 mins and then through until 7.10. Tues night was 12.30 for 10 mins and then 5.30 when I fed her but that means I didn't feed her again when she woke at 7. And last night was straight through until 6.50 am. So I think thats the end of night feeds really.

When DS was this age he supposedly slept through the night but unfortunately the day started at 5.30 am.

Helsy know what you mean about the second child. I've not made all that many of the same mistakes but have found a whole bunch of new ones to make. Anyway good luck sounds like you're going to be busy....

[kbaby]

Arent the rear facing car seats supposed to be safer than forward facing ones.



Happy Birthday to me for tomorow. 28 years old

[kbaby]

Egypt sorry your having a tough time with DD sleeping. I met 2 mums today with 7 month olds and their lo's are waking every 2 hrs at night too. DD seems to have settled down a bit. The CC didnt work but now when she wakes at 3am I give 3 ozs milk and put her back in the cot. I can hear her chatting to herself but then she does go to sleep again. At least no more crying!!

The thing I noticed and the other mum said the same today. Once i started bringing dd into bed it sent her back to sleep at first but over a few weeks it seemed to stop working. This meant that DD began to wake again. Its funny how the other mm said shed noticed the same with her lo. Could you try not bringing her into bed. I dont know if it would work but its worth a go.

My next baby is going to be a wonderful napper and sleep 12hrs

The one plus I do have with DD is she is a dustbin. She eats everything. We tend to have brekie and 7ozs, a full jar sized dinner plus dessert, 7ozs milk at 3.00 and then another jar sized meal and dessert for tea followed by 7ozs milk at 7.30pm. So far weve eaten and liked most meals in the ak, gina and lorraine toddler book. In fact I need to buy a new freezer as we dont have enough room and I keep running out of containers. The last lot of chicken risotto were in drinking beakers.

[egypt]

eeee, close libb - norfolk! oo-ahhhh

spots, i dont know whether one feed yes one no would work. think my dd would become confused. think i may try the babywhisperer way when we get back and do the pickupputdown method. although a mum at babygroup did that when her dd a few weeks old and only taught her to never stop crying when she was held as she thought that as soon as she stopped she would be put down - daytimes too. ooodear. sounds nicer than cc though.

[spots]

Thanks for the recipe Judd. It does sound lovely but bet you 50p DD won't think so. Today she ate hardly anything, half a weetabix with hipp fruit and milk for breakfast, a gnaw of some toast and about two spoons of carrot for lunch and half a jar of hipp fruit with extra baby rice and some cheese smuggled in for tea. I do bf her enough not to be worried about nutrients but her refusal to eat anythin other than hipp fruit is frustrating. The cheese bit was not for vitamins but to subtly change the flavour... maybe I can incrementally increase it until she realises she like savoury cheesy things. She is totally going backwards about food. Also about clinginess. Roars whenever I go out the room.I left her in the cot with bricks while I went to the loo and when I came back she had hauled herself up onto her knees at the rail and had her chin over it, wailing. I wish I could draw a picture. She is not being an easy baby at the moment. Unfortunately it's tomorrow that I am supposed to be taking her to the maybe childminder person for a hello session.

Bozza that's so great that your DD slept through, you give us all hope. I wonder if she understands that she can't be fed at midnight but can at 5? I always thought it wouldn't work doing one-feed-yes one-feed-no, but it would be so great if it was an option. What do you think?

[Libb]

obviously it could just be one massive coincidence but seeing as I have stalked Cat fromt he very beginning I may as well start on give her a break and choose my next victim

[Libb]

Egypt, my mistake - the childminder's sister had a daughter (I am just obsessed with DSs!) around the same time as me (us even) . . . . it could still be crazy purple weird . . . . . does your sister live in Suffolk?

[egypt]

congrats on the house helsy. are you moving far ? whats your new house like?

ideally i would still be using first car seat if dd wasnt such a chubber. was planning to use it up until needed to face forward, but she just got too big.

dd gets too many feeds too helsy. dont think even a 5th time round parent ever really knows that they are foing the right thing. not that i know of course being a first timer . but i certainly dont know what i am doing half the time and always looking to change things. never going with flow.

[helsy]

Car seats? 20lb? I'm a bit behind here. Dd2 is quite happy in first car seat.

Happy birthday Egypt, you are now 10 years younger than me (pushes zimmer frame to one side in fury).

Good news: my baby is NOT shrinking due to lack of food - HV came round today at my request and was v sensible and, uncharacteristically, LISTENED. It turns out that, far from losing weight, Dd2 has put on 1lb in three weeks!Apparently, FIVE milk feeds a day (three/four bottles, two bf) is too much and it's no wonder she's not eating very well, and yes this is my second child . Am about to give a meal without milk to see how it goes.

Dd1 is 5 today, v embarrassed when dh pointed out that I woke up this morning in the same nightie I was wearing when she was born! again - bit of a day for those. Nightie is now in the bin.

We exchanged on our house two days ago and move in a week on Saturday. Ever so convenient since I start back to work on Monday grrr.

[egypt]

oh bozza thats brilliant! so you did do cc but also bf at 5am, and it seems to have worked. was she waking more than just at midnight? or only then?

[Bozza]

Sorry to alarm the seat was a Mothercare one (although my friend's Britax one did break) - in both cases it was the clip mechanism for keeping the seat belt tight so fairly essential. We're on the two car thing too Judd and as DH does nursery drop and I collect it is more than just incovenient to have only one car seat it would be impossible.

I think the ruling is supposed to be at least 20 lb and able to sit up well. 9 months is just a guideline of when this is likely to be - looks fairly accurate in DD's case but I had a friend with a very petite DD who kept her in the baby seat (carrier of Graco pram) until she was one.

Feel guilty posting this after egypt's post but DD slept through last night. Put her to bed at 7.30 and she didn't go straight off but didn't cry either. Then she slept through until 6.50 am this morning. We have done CC this week though because I was sure that she wasn't hungry at midnight when she was waking up but was happy to feed her at 5am.

[egypt]

ooo libb yes i do have a sister, but that would be too weird. dd not ds though! spooky! so its not her

we wolfed the lovely lentils down as a soup, i added seasoning and stuff, cant remember q what, but it was deeeeeelicous! i made way too much you see. i dont think dd likes hers so much maybe because i had ran out of weaning cubes and froze it in a plastic bags. then when i defrosted the bags in the microwave it seemed to take on a plasticy aroma! oh dear. poisoned. so we gave up. might try again in future. such a lovely healthy recipe and good for toppin up your good bacteria!

dd is about 19lbs i think. more i think. getting her weighed today. dont they have to be 20lbs AND 9months to forward face? or is it just when they are able to hold their head properly? would be nice to sit her forward. its awkward getting her into seat rearwards as the britax is so high. she practically bashed her face on the door frame each time and have a big blue bus!

mum tried her with bottle at bedtime last night but no way. tried putting her to bed without it but no way. so i fed her again. she was craning her neck looking for me as i was hiding on here! bless her. during the night she woke 4 times. at 1030 my mum tried her with a stroke,a shush, a cuddle, a bottle but no way. i ended up bf her. she went out like a light. again at 1,2,5 then didnt wake until 9. well she was awake before but just playing and fell asleep again. she's learned how to pull her bloody mobile.....so we all have to hear it

anyway, not so sure what to do, but will obv let mum try her with bottle again tonight, perhaps before she gets too tired. i swear shes not hungry for it though. perhaps tea a little earlier? sorry am rambling again...... other than trying, i just keep saying to myself, 'she'll take a bottle when i'm not here. she'll forget she can be bf when i'm not here. she'll be FINE when i'm not here'

[Judd]

Glad you said you got a 2nd hand seat, Spots, as I was going to suggest that. We needed 2 new ones because we are lucky enough to have 2 cars (DH is company car) and were faffing about every weekend transferring them from my car to his. I thought of all my friends who had children who were probably at an age to come out into a booster seat and dropped them all an e mail asking if we could make them an offer on their car seat. Had 4 offered for free!

[Judd]

Les Lentils Jolis:-
half an onion, 4oz carrot, half oz celery, 1tbsp veg oil, 2oz red split lentils,, 7oz sweet potato peeled n chopped, 14floz veg/chicken stock (I just use water)
Saute onion, carrot and celery in veg oil for 5 mins until softened. Add lentils and sweet pot and pour over the stock/water. Bring to boil, turn down heat and simmer, covered, for 20 mins. Puree in blender.
AK says it makes 8 portions but for the easy-peasyness of making it, I usually double it and bob's your uncle - loads of meals v. quickly

[spots]

A friend who has two year old twins just dropped off their old car seat for DD to use. Timely or what? It's a Britax Club Class. Shall have to wait till next week to get her weighed, unless I do something enterprising with the kitchen scales. Luckily we aren't big car usres.

Judd, yes I would like the lovely lentils recipe if you can be bothered. We had no luck with the chicken... despite bloody loveliness... cooked iwth celery, apricots and couscous. I mean lovely not bloody. DH and I practically necked the rest of it, that lovely. DD opted for the hipp apple and blueberry. Again. DH and I are total food people, I can't think how a faddy eater will survive in this house. But then she has been ill.

Cat when are you getting a dog?

[cat82]

Hi everyone.

Yikes Spots, how scary! poor you, i would have freaked out. I have heard that babies can indeed sleep with their eyes open, if i found kiera doing that i would probably be convinced she was possesed Glad she's a it better now.

Happy birthday Egypt! We went on the hunt for a forward facing seat yesterday and we decided on a britax as well Haven't got it yet though, kiera still only weighs around 17lbs.

Susi- Wow your ds sounds like and angel I'd be worried about disrupting kieras sleep, but you've given me some more confidence now! Okay so where shall we go on holiday?.......

Kiera is coming on in leaps and bounds in the bababa dadada mamamama stakes, saying it whenever she sees anyone and repeating until they say it back, then she grins and starts again. Bless. Still not sitting at all well on the floor though, topples straight over. Anywhere that's high up and life threatening she is determined to let go of me and try it though, especialy on her changing station in the sitting room

Take care all
Cat
xxxx

[Libb]

Egypt, this may an odd question but do you have a sister?

My childminder was talking about her sister today and she was talking about how her DS wasn't going down at night at the moment. It is also her birthday today . . . . no, that would just be too weird.

[egypt]

thanks for your bday wishes.
mum and dad are here. mum's doing the bedtime routine to see if it works and from the sounds of it, it isn't. oh dear. wont take the bottle. anyway.....

my dd didnt like the lovely lentils recipe. it was a while ago and i think i threw out the rest in the freezer. she does like anything fruity.

oh no, hope our britax doesnt break! how did it break, bozza? was it the recline feature?

thanks for the candles spots.xx

right, think i need to get boob out by the sounds of it. oh god. what are we going to do when i'm not here? maybe she just isnt hungry. she did demolish her tea.