Oct 07 - this little piggy stayed at home...

[Dalrymps]

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

Morning all. Sorry to hear various lo's are not feeling well, better soon I hope for your sakes as well as theirs!

Had really good day yesterday - feeding is back to normal thankfully. Anya slept lots too - obviously tired from all her crying the day before. She was very talkative on her changing mat last night - we cooed at each other for about half an hour! I completely missed her sleepy cues in the process though - she wasn't doing her usual rubbing eyes/yawning, but her arms and legs were waving frantically as she was too tired to control them properly - so she got overtired and cried lots. DH ended up spending a couple of hours soothing her to sleep .

BOO!
Found you all at last!
Just posting so I can find you again...I'll try to catch up (on 7 pages!) later.

merry xmas everyone! not sure i will get a chance to come back on here before xmas. now that all the nativities, school fayres and parties are over (nearly) i will need to frantically do some shopping and wrap some pressies!!!.............which is what i should be doing now while i only have marcy to look after ( my other two are at the child minders til 2pm so i get some peace!)

i have followed suit and added some pics on my profile! marcy is now nearly 15lb at 10 wks! she is going to be huge like her big sis (she is 108cm and 3yrs in jan...........wont mean much to any of you who havent got 3 yr olds!!!) anyway i reckon marcy will be similar, but then i'm not a small person so what do i expect! (tall, rather than fat.............actually fat too at the moment! but not once i start my diet after xmas!)

anyway.........merry xmas all!

Hey all,

Dareh had his jabs today. It was horrible. I cried when I saw his little face scream. I fed him as soon as we hit the waiting room. My first feed in public although I am not sure a waiting room with mums in it really counts as feeding in public. He's having a wee sleep now.

Inzi - with the shopping - do it on line! I have not done a food shop since I gave birth. It's way to stressful. It costs about a fiver and they even dump it in the kitchen for me. I honestly think I will keep doing it even when I am more mobile - it's so easy.

I am thinking about a hugabub too - my back is bad though which worries me.

Where is the thread you mention - I would be interested to see it.

I don't really leave Dareh to cry as I just can't relax when he does. My DH tells me off for always picking him up. I do leave him sometimes if he is just grumping - not really crying just moany yells and I am doing something during the day. I've been using a dummy to settle him at night which is a total pain to be honest but it does work eventually. So I guess it depends on the cry for me - if he is just moaning a bit I can leave him - if he is doing is bright red face screams I pick him up.

i leave ds to cry, and always keep an eye on the clock. He doesn't fall asleep when being held, but will cry for a few minutes in his basket before falling asleep. I leave him for up to 10 minutes. Other times he is left crying because I have 2 other children who need me and sometimes he has to wait! I shouldn't worry about it. It's the kind of thing that people have extreme views on - you just do what works for you and your baby.

inzi - it all depends ... I certainly don't leave Mairwen to cry if she is getting hysterical - achieves nothing (I speak from bitter experience!)

I did CC with Rhydian, but never found it that effective - I'd have to re-start the process every 3 weeks or so ... not much fun!

There is a difference though - sometimes Mairwen has a grumbly cry before she goes to sleep - as long as it's not increasing in intensity, and doesn't sound like she's hungry / in pain etc., I leave her to it then ...

It all depends on what works for you and your baby.

Personally, I like the Baby Whisperer take on crying to get to sleep - I have found the pure CC method just too horrible for words!

Just want to add ... if you had an older child who was crying because they were upset / hungry / in pain, you wouldn't leave them to cry it out ... but if they were having a grumbly cry because they were tired, you might just leave them to get on with it ...

Might make me sound a bit flaky, but that's the way I approach it!

What is the baby whisperer method just out of curiosity.

Hello, just discovered this thread, have DS who was born on the 30th Oct, so only just fits in here, but it is SO great to read about people doing the same things as me. Esp at three a.m. !! Inzidoodle, how do you find your natures nest? I tend to rock Joseph madly in it when he first goes down which calms his crying pretty well, although it can take a wee while at times, but I chat away to him to calm him and reassure him that I am there, so I am guessing that that is okay....

Hey everyone!
Welcome EmKcK, I also have a ds who was born on 30th Oct - snap
well i've been rushing around all day and finally finished my xmas shopping, still haven't cooked my bloody mince pies though... will have to try do them tomorrow.
Stefka - don't know how bad your back is but hugabub is really comfortable, doesn't hurt my back, apparently it's recommended by chiroprators (spelt wrong?) it has info on the official australian website i think - just google it
GGG - merry xmas, hope you have a great one!
Inzi - i leave ds to cry a few mins if he's just kind of grumbling but if he starts getting upset properly i go to him, usually grumbles for a bit when put down to sleep and makes strange noises but eventually falls asleep after a few mins, if he's hungry and i'm making up his feed i try go pick him up asap, sometimes if i'm on my own though i might let him cry for 30 secs or so but keep talking to him to try to reassure him whilst i make the bottle up. I'm sure you're doing nothing wrong a all, babies cry when they're tired then they fall asleep, ds sometimes does a really loud cry just for a few seconds when he's really tired then just drops off to sleep all of a sudden, you know your lo best so i wouldn't worry
Anyway off to feed ds, hi to anyone i haven't mentioned, catch ya later

right i'm back, feel awful tonight, been xmas shopping all day and then went for tea at Frankie and Benny's which was lovely but Shannon has been really unsettled, so i ended up eating mine cold....anyway, she's been holding her arm up like hitler the last couple of days and i thought it was maybe just a new game type thing, went to bath her tonight, and moved her arm to do her armpit and its red raw sore, and she didn't stop screaming for hours, even after 2 bottles and i didn't have any more ready, i feel like a real shit mum atm, i think i'm getting flu and ended up crying with her, why didn't i check her arm properly when she started doing it i'm so at myself. its only one arm, does anyone know what it might be? have i not dried her properly? she's so chubby with so many folds of skin i must have missed it.

anyway, i'm afraid i'm rambling again, so tired, off to bed, bet you all missed me didn't ya!

inzi-if lo is screaming i pick her up if she's just grumbling i try to leave her, even when she's crying i sometimes leave her a few moments to see if she goes to sleep, you know your own lo, go with your instinct, if its working for you why let a thread on MN change the way you do things x

oo just realised i said the same things as Dal, must have subconcieously(sp)taken that in when skimming and thought it good advice

Hi all

J20, sorry about Shannon! You couldnt have known though so don't beat yourself up. I have no suggestions as am a medical ignoramus - maybe you could call the hv? or the GP?

Dal, can't believe you're making mince pies! Well done girl! and you've done your Xmas shopping...

Greedy those pics are sooo cute - the kids are adorable!

Inzi etc: controlled crying - I don't think I can do it; I hate seeing DD cry properly (the grizzling a bit is different). And I don't know if it would work at this age. However I would like any advice on how to get a baby to sleep! Mine resists sleep with her entire little body; it takes hours of rocking and shushing and stroking to get her off to sleep.

No news from here - DD in her usual sleep-resisting mode but quite good tempered since Tuesday night (which was awful). She burped on our horrid postman yesterday which I was most pleased about. I haven't finished Xmas shopping (oops) so I need to get a move on I guess.

Alice, see you later!

Hi everyone.
Sorry I haven't been posting for a while. I have a question. I am really worried about LO although my dh tells me I worry too much and this is probably very normal...

I've already left a message with the hv to call me back this morning - also mentioned it to the doc earlier this week at the 6 week check - he said he didn't know what it was though as babies continually change at this stage and just told me to "keep an eye on it". Who knows maybe one of you has the answer already as your baby does something similar?...

My baby has always made a number of strange movements when falling asleep and sometimes during sleep. The usual startle, punching himself in the face, and a bit of grunting as if he was pushing air out of his tummy. And that's fine....I wasn't too worried

This week though, he's been doing this a lot more and for longer. Tonight, several times a night, he started kicking his arms and legs and moving his head around and making lots of noises for more than 10 minutes at a time - but he appeared to be asleep...and he was moving a lot faster than normal. It's as if he was dreaming about everything we did yesterday (had a very busy day around London and he was alert for much of the time - and was therefore probably seriously overtired by the end of it). What do you think??? Is this normal?

It looks so weird that I even thought at one point he might be having convulsions, but then the movements looked normal - just a bit faster than usual, and happening in his sleep - and he was slowing down every time I put my hand on him and talked to him softly ....

Obviously as you can imagine I hardly had any sleep tonight but that doesn't matter - I just want to know he's ok...He definitely seems very healthy otherwise...

Hello all,

Just grabbing a few minutes online while DD has a nice long morning nap (which will no doubt mean she'll be a nightmare this afternoon and tonight because she's slept too much this morning!).

I have to say, I'm not very good at letting DD cry. I'm just a big wuss and first time mum so I go running to her as soon as she starts to cry. I'm sure it's not the best approach but I find it really hard to leave her when she's crying. You have to do what's right for you though. If it's only for 10 mins I'm sure it won't do any harm.

I took DD on the tube for the first time yesterday...on my own! It was really stressful but I felt so proud of myself. It's made me feel a bit more independent knowing that I can get into central London if I need/want to.

Planning to take it easy today though as I think yesterday was all a bit too exhausting for DD (and me!).

She's going to be 10 weeks old tomorrow and I still haven't had my 6 week check up and she still hasn't had her jabs. I've been meaning to call the GP surgery to chase them up all week but I haven't got round to it. Is it just me or is it a bit crap that I have to chase them up?

x

Hi all!

Met up with anyasmum yesterday and she's lovely and her lo is very cute

We're still up north and will be making our way back down south tomorrow. Very tired as completely out of routine and Ollie is waking in the night with strange nightmares.

Feeding H atm whilst typing one handed! Back in a mo

hello everyone and welcome EmMcK

J20 - Olly holds his arm up just as you described Shannon doing, so I wouldn't blame yourself for not noticing, cos its not occurred to me to check there's something wrong either. I have assumed it was just him realising that he had arms that could move in different ways, but now I am gonna check him so thanks for your alert. Hope Shannon is better soon.

I think we are just about sorted for Xmas now. Olly is fast asleep on the floor on his playmat at the moment, and DH has finished work for the holidays, so i can leave them playing on the Xbox and sleeping, while I go for a long soak in the bath - such luxury! It's my work Xmas do tonight and i want to make sure i'm looking good and that there's no baby sick on show...

Hope you are all ok

Hey all,

had to go back to the dr today for some blood tests. They are talking about gall stones

DH told me last night that going out with the baby is not hard and I shouldn't make a big deal out of it, that Dareh doesn't sleep for long at night because of something I must be doing and that 16 year olds have babies and manage just fine so why can't I.

And he wonders why I feel like shit.

j20 - marcy gets exactly the same under her armpit. it is so difficult to get in and dry it properly when they clamp their arms to their sides isnt it? hers was really red raw the other day so i was extra careful to dry it properly and then put sudocrem on. she gets it under her neck too if im not careful. marcy has rolls and rolls of fat too................see my profile!!!

inzi - i let marcy cry! i found with ds (my first) i used to pick him up straight away and cuddle him at his first whimper, and by about 10 months it got ridiculous and he would wait till i had left the room and then start crying and then stop as soon as i went back in so i ended up having to do controlled crying of a sort with him. with dd1 (my second) i left her to whimper a bit after i had put her down and she just settled herself off to sleep......................she has always been a fab sleeper unless shes ill and i never had to do any controlled crying with her so it wa s much better. i do pretty much the same with marcy. if i put her down and she cries i put the timer on the kitchen clock and leave her 5 mins and then go and check on her...she has nearly always fallen asleep!

Hi ladies!

J20 - don't beat yourself up honey. Sam had this and it is just from not drying properly which is really easy as they have all theswe funny folds that adults don't have under their arms! I put zinc and castor oil cream (or something like that on it?) - apparently sudocrem is very painful but its just another type of barrier cream. And it healed up fine. Just really fastidious since then about drying them properly. So if you're a bad mummy (YOU'RE NOT!!!) then I am twice as he had it under both arms.

Inzi - if leaving Jane to cry for a few minutes works then keep going. I am a wimp at leaving Adam to cry althoguh we have to sometimes when Sam needs attention too. But thats me - just because I don't like to leave him to cry doesn't mean you shouldn't if that works for you. Different things work for different people - like ejt says its something people tend to have very strong views on one way or another which is why there will be ranty threads on here. Camly ignore them and trust your instincts as to what works for you and Jane! Now with Sam we often leave him to shout when he goes to bed and this can last up to half an hour. It's not crying and he's not distressed though - just going through a trying it on phase - when we go in he just smiles and says 'book book!' and plays with his soft toys!

Welcome EmMcK!

Nellie we have a mobile called symphony in motion by tiny love. Great and worth every penny!!!

Um - can't remember who else said stuff!

Been to Choc's today - Rebecca is a gorgeous contented little girl who doesn't sleep! Choc is not exaggerating! But I've never seen so contented a baby who0 sleeps so little! We had a lovely lunch and the usual epic chat where we lost track of time - perfect way to spend the afternoon!

This am we were at the cranial osteopath again - we have to go back once more in a month but he thinks Adam is much better. He hasn't had anymore of the inconsolable speels since last week - may be coincidence but who knows? The differences he points out to me I can see so he's doing something!

Also had the Asda fight this am and maanged to get all the food in so all we have to do now is actually get round to putting up the tree (been sitting in it's net bag in the corner of our sitting room since sunday!!! ) and finish wrapping the pressies. More organised than I usually am at this time!

Anyway off to chill for 5 mins with dh before he goes to get Sam...

Oh and hello to everyone else that I didn't mention - I'm not getting better at remembering everything!! And Happy Christmas to anyone who will not make it on again