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Dalrymps · 13/12/2007 21:16

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

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muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 07:39

that is so sad, what a poor lady. What she must have been going through...
her poor family.

ejt1764 · 11/01/2008 09:13

Morning all - Mairwen was up and awake at 615am - so I gave her to DH and went back to bed - bliss!

She's now been back in bed for an hour and a half - it feels bizarre for her morning nap to be this early!

Thanks for the info on CBT - makes interesting reading!

Inzi - I put Mairwen into her cot for all of her naps - she's just in the crib for the time I'm in bed. I'm finding that she's far too interested in what's going on to get any real quality sleep if she's downstairs - unless she falls asleep in the pram when we're out and about, in which case she stays there for an hour or 2.

Right, off to haul myself to M&S (when Mairwen wakes, that is!) - need to take back a Christmas pressie ... then am doing lunch with dh ... have a good weekend all!

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 09:38

Hi Inzi - I put Henry in his crib in his room for all his sleeps. Day sleeps 10-11, 1-2. He wants to cat nap at around 5pm but I don't want a big sleep then as too close to bedtime so I let him snooze in his chair in the kitchen whilst I cook tea.

Really crap weather here today, rain, rain and more rain. Ollie has completely trashed his room so I've told him I'll make his bed but he's tidying the mess when he gets home from nursery. Anyone got any tips on how to get him to sleep longer? He is still being a nightmare in the mornings but at least he stays in his room now. Yesterday he woke Henry up, today it was just me. He bangs and crashes in his room!!

Henry seems to be the opposite as I have to wake him for the nursery run!! He did 6.45pm, dream feed at 11, slept till 5.30am, then I had to wake him at 8 to feed him and take him with us.

clu · 11/01/2008 09:52

rushing off out but inzi I ususally put lily in her bedroom with the monitor, but i live in a one bedroom flat so its not that far away. Now we only have one room so.... but used to keep waking up when i put her in her cot and i think it was to do with heat.

Maybe she is going from your body heat to a cold cot try putting a hot water bottle in first, or those microwavable teddy things that heat up. I put her grobag on the radiator and she is in a travel cot at the mo and has a fleecey blanket underneath the sheet. I think I was so worried about oveheating that she was cold, I mean its freeing during the night and if i wake up cold I cant go back to sleep.

How much sleep should they be getting, can they get too much???

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 10:08

Hi Clu- I always thought that as long as they are eating, putting on weight, growing then I don't think they can have to much sleep. Ollie used to have 2 naps a day at least 2-3 hrs altogether and he slept 7-7 (those were the days!) Henry as a sleepier baby and sleeps more...but is happy so I'm leaving him.

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 10:10

Actually I suppose the problem arises as to when they sleep regarding having too much sleep. If they sleep to much in the day then night times can be a problem.

strawberrylace · 11/01/2008 10:19

Hi everyone!
Olly's feed/sleep pattern for the last week or so:
wakes at 5.30 ish cos he's lost his dummy - I give it back and he sleeps till 7am, when he has a feed and I get him dressed (with a bath every other day), have a shower and sort myself out. if i'm lucky he goes back to sleep at about 9-ish lying on the bed.
He then feeds at about 10.30, 2 and 6. He may fall asleep after the 2pm feed, but not always (esp if we're out seeing people). when he does sleep during the day it will be downstairs with me, usually in his swing.
After his 6pm feed he likes to play with us, so doesn't go to sleep till 9pm ish - again, downstairs with us, usually on his beanbag (he used to have an evening feed, but seems to go without now). Then he comes upstairs with us at about 11.30pm, has a feed and goes to sleep in his cot.
HTH - seems a bit chaotic compared to all of you with nice routines! I do think I want to start putting him in his cot sooner, but really want to buy a baby monitor first. There are so many out there I am having a problem choosing - any recommendations ladies??

ejt1764 · 11/01/2008 10:21

I tend to find that if Mairwen has too long a sleep in the afternoon - and if she sleeps past 530pm, then I have problems getting her to go to bed at night.

She's still asleep ... has been back in bed for nearly 3 hours now ... will go and get her up in a minute - she must be starving!

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 11:11

Hi Strawberry

With Ollie we didn't have a monitor or rather we did but it wouldn't work in our house at the time as it had very thick walls and just came through as a permenant hissing sound.

This time as Henry is 2 floors above us we do it's the middle range tommy one. this one

this seems a good website to de research on

MY own opinion on the more advanced monitors is the more advance, the more the worry so we chose a veru basic one.

Stefka · 11/01/2008 11:59

We had a better night. I went out of a couple of hours. Even though I worried the whole time I think it was good for me. I want to watch that I don't get too down. My score for PND was high -my HV was meant to re do the test but she didn't bother she just asked me if I was ok and when I said fine left it at that!

Dareh seems to get upset if he gets trapped wind or needs a poo. Trouble is there is not a whole lot we seem to be able to do about either other than ride it out.

Sorry you have back ache Mrs Fish - nothing worse. That's a horrible story about that woman

How's your BF going strawberry? Hope it is better.

How are we getting on with the Scotland meet? I have sort of lost track of where that is at!

For naps Dareh sleeps in his chicco chair downstairs. We bought the one you guys suggested and we love it! He doesn't nap at the same time each day though - do you guys put your LO's down for naps at the same time?

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 12:09

Hi Stefka

I try to put Henry down at the same time, partly due to having to do the nursery run but also I confess to liking routine

As we get back for nursery around 9.15 ish he has a bottle at 9.30 and generally starts to yawn just before 10 so up to bed he goes. But, saying that, if he doesn't yawn I don;t attempt it. I've learned if he doesn;t show signs of being tired don't even attempt bed.

Stefka · 11/01/2008 12:17

Does he go to sleep on his own? Dareh hardly ever does that. I usually have to boob him to sleep.

AnyasMum07 · 11/01/2008 12:17

Anya's been unsettled last night and this morning - think she's still feeling a bit poorly. She's gone to sleep now though, so fingers crossed!

Sympathy to all those struggling with pnd. Well done muppet for conquering yours. I'm counting myself lucky that apart from the odd bad day I've not suffered with it - dh has mine instead! DH is very down today - he's not been getting much sleep - due to stress/depression, not due to dd keeping him awake! - is it a vicious cycle that the more depressed you are the less you sleep, so the more tired and depressed you become? How do you break out of that? I'm desperate for a nice kiss & cuddle but I'm struggling to coax him out of his hole. What's the best thing that I can do? Advice from the other side of the fence would be much appreciated

J2O/MrsFish - Great pics - very cute. J2O - bad about the catalogue thing. You should contact the catalogue and make sure your credit rating won't be affected.

Inzi - Anya's on aptamil - I know we've had problems but she loves the cartons. When I was mixed feeding she didn't seem to notice the difference between those and ebm. DON'T beat yourself up about stopping breast feeding - you are not harming Jane and I'm sure you will find something that she's happy with. Remember, this is a hard time for us, but our lo's won't remember a thing about all this - we've got to screw up really, really badly before we affect them long term!

ejt - well done for coping without dh , and well done to Rhydian for his reading - you must be very proud. See, you are fantastic mum!!

dalrymps - don't worry about the weight issue - I'm told it's rarely consistent from one week to the next so it's not unusual to have slow weeks.

Anya just woken - bbl

Stefka · 11/01/2008 12:18

Also I know you all have hugabubs mainly but does anyone have a Moby? It's a lot cheaper than the Hugabub and we are really poor. I am in the process of selling things on ebay to try and raise funds for a sling!

strawberrylace · 11/01/2008 12:22

Hi stefka - bf is much better now, fingers crossed it will stay this way!!
Olly never does anything at exactly the same time, but he does manage to get himself to sleep. Normally wears himself out during the day (fights sleep for a while and then flakes out). At night he is usually awake, but sleepy, when he goes in his cot. we play his sound/light cot rabbit thing as a signal that its time to sleep - we are usually in the same room so then we just chat quietly and ignore him, and he gets the message....

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 12:28

Stefka - After a bit of shouting yes. He doesn't tend to cry as such more shouts really loudly. Better at getting to sleep in the day than at night. I think this is because he doesn't have black out blinds in his room atm and in the day he can still see his cot mobile to keep him amused. At night he can't.

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 12:32

Stefka - I have LOADS of spare material would you like me to see if I have enough for you to make a sling with? (I used to do lots of sewing and making stuff and sold it on ebay for about a year and a half. Unfortunately had to stop due to PND and not getting orders out on time)I think it's about 4-5 metres needed, I'll have a look to see if anything's suitable...
You can have it as DH was going to give it to the local school as it's filing our spare wardrobes.

AnyasMum07 · 11/01/2008 12:41

...and back to sleep. Winnie the Pooh dreamshow has blown up though - I know we've used it a lot but we've only had it since Christmas

I always make Anya sleep in her basket in our bedroom, day or night. It's the only way she gets a decent nap. I don't know much about cot death but I suspect as long as you check on them regularly to make sure they've not kicked the covers over their head etc then the chances of anything happening are really really tiny. Anya usually sleeps about 5-6 hours during the day in 1-2 hour bursts. It depends a lot on what she's been doing - it doesn't seem to affect her sleeping at night and she gets cranky if we try to keep her awake.

Stefka · 11/01/2008 13:16

Are they hard to make muppetgirl? I am seriously crap at sewing and things like that. So bad in fact that at school they made me do technical studies instead of Home Economics! Not that I was much better at that mind you. I wish I could make things actually and do what you were doing - selling stuff on ebay. We could do with some extra money. Sadly I am a total ejit when it comes to these things!

I was keeping Dareh down stairs for his naps to try and get him to know the difference between naps and night time sleep. Don't think it makes much difference though!

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 13:36

Not hard to make at all, just a long length of material hemmed. There is a pocket thing but it is necessary to the design it's just a way of storing it. The most important thing you get buying from the company is the dvd showing you how to tie it! I'm sure my dvd is kicking around somewhere -you can have it it you'd like?

Stefka · 11/01/2008 13:38

If you think I can do it then that would be lovely! My DH will be delighted too as you should have seen the look on his face when I told him I wanted another sling. I had a coorie which was lovely but Dareh is too big for it now.

muppetgirl · 11/01/2008 13:55

I'll have a go...I've actually asked dh to get the sewing machine out of the garage as I felt I wanted to start making again. This will give me an incentive

Stefka · 11/01/2008 14:33

I totally admire anyone who knows how to use a sewing machine!

Apricott · 11/01/2008 14:34

Hi everyone,

How are you all???

Huw had his first injection yesterday. Should have had it about a month ago, but had a bad cold, so we delayed it. He's never cried like that before - it was heart-breaking. Luckily, the nurse was super fast, and he doesn't seem to be suffering any after-effects. It's so hard that you can't explain to the poor little things what's going on and why.

With regard to the sleeping thing - Huw sleeps upstairs in his cot during the day and sometimes in the evenings. We go up to check on him from time to time, but we haven't got a monitor, at least not yet. Some days he doesn't sleep much at all. Other days, he seems to sleep for ages and ages. He's still sleeping at least six hours a night, though, so we're still happy mummy and daddy!

And someone was talking about trapped wind causing baby discomfort - we were advised to rub his tummy clockwise and to bicycle his legs or just push them up towards his tummy when he seems to have tummy ache, and both seem to work - definitly worth a try. A tummy rub produced The Great Poo of a couple of weeks ago (after FIVE days without!).

He's woken ... gotta go ...

A x

ejt1764 · 11/01/2008 14:40

There's instructions on how to make a no-sew sling here - and there's a youtube video on how to tie one here

We have this monitor - the only downside about it is that I'd prefer to have a temperature gauge - our old one had one ...

Having said about Mairwen having naps in her cot - she's now asleep in her car seay in the front room - we've been to M&S to change my gloves, and we nipped into Tesco next door to buy some new vests - size 6 - 9 months - she has a really long body, add that to the insanely enormous nappies she wears, and you need big clothes! We then went and met dh for lunch, and she didn't want to go to sleep then ... would normally have moved her, as she usually wakes up the minute she comes in the house when she's in her seat, but am making an exception today, as I've hury my shoulder

Am feeling very proud of myself for going into the 2 shops without melting down ... am feeling a little shaky now, but am going to make a cup of tea ...

have a good weekend all ...