Oct 07 - this little piggy stayed at home...

[Dalrymps]

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

Hey clu! Of course you can join, we're a friendly bunch, great to have someone new , i have 1 ds born 30th oct, had his jabs 2nd oct but was totally fine apart from initial crying when she did it, hope it goes ok for you!

meant to say 2nd Jan - duh, too early, haven't woken up yet...

Morning all,

Welcome to the groyp Clu.

MG - I have emailed you.

J2O - I hope Shannon is OK. Shula did the same thing the othe day. DP was at home at the time. He said to keep an eye on her and if she was sick, he would take her straight to the hospital. She seems to be ok though.

She seems to have gotten over her jabs. She was asleep by 9.30pm last night ans was alot more settled. She did not wake up until 7.35 this morning.

I won't be on much today as DP is working from home and I have an engineer coming to fix my rangemaster conventional oven is not heating up properly.

I hope you all have a good day.

Good morning All!

Not the best of nights;..(Alex goes to bed easily enough..we have a routine that we have followed from the first day home; 8pm feed, bath, massage (yes, sorry cant remember who asked, we go to baby massage classes and he just LOVES it!)with lavender oil and soft lighting, into sleep suit, final comfort suck with just the night light on and into the Amby for gentle bouncing/rocking while I sing the songs I sang to him in utero....the whole process takes about half an hour but the last suck to leaving the room rarely takes more than 5 mins)...but for some reason last night though I lifted him at 12am for his abs and a top up suck he wanted feeding at 2.30, 3.30, 4.30 and 6!Dh in Italy so not there to at least try an ebm bottle and give me a break . Little beggar has been fed twice and been playing merrily since 6am and has just fallen asleep for his mid-morning nap!
Anya; alice is doing the arranging for York
Dal; my gran was just like your Mum...fell out with Mum when she was preg with me and didnt see me until I was 10 months old by which time I screamed like a banshee at strangers leaning over my pram...she spent the rest of her life trying to win me round! ..its is your Mums loss and all her own fault, perhaps if and when she realises the error of her ways she will have to pay dearly with time, effort (and hard cash)
J20; sorry about the accident, and hope Shannon is ok...our friends have done something similar with their son ..let him fall off the bed onto laminate floor...TWICE!

Right got to take the dog to the vets so better get things ready...Have good days everyone!

FT - He must be having a growth spurt, it will pass

Ben was up at 5am again this morning, I didn't try for more than 5 mins to settle him this time, I just gave him a bottle and put him back to bed, the whole process only took 20 mins, he then slept till 8.30 so I managed another 2 and a half hours sleep myself.

nice to know there are others out there who have gone through the same thing floria, hopefully my mum will realise the error of her ways one day! sorry you didn't have such a good night, maybe it's a growth spurt?

great minds mrsf, must have x posted

floria, we had similar nights! in fact Madeleine stayed attached to me for over 4 hours! DS did the same in his growth spurts so I'm sure it's the same thing, altho with her it feels mostly like comfort sucking and it's also the negative side of co sleeping. Much as I would love her to stay, I think I am going to have to move her. Just don't know; it is so much easier at the moment but then it would be good to have her sleeping longer stretches. Just not sure - anyone else still have their LO's in bed? I do feel I want some kind of structure which works with DS too.....tricky isn't it. and welcome to clu - I lived in Glasgow for a long time until 5 yrs ago and have lots of very happy memories.

Hi all, had a good morning so far and house is still tidy -hurrah! only because Ollie is at school

Am feeding Henry atm as he couldn't wait till 12, seems like they're all on growth spurts atm. I know there's one at 6 weeks but are the next ones as strucured? Maybe we just have greedy babies!

Meant to say, had jabs yesterday - poor thing screamed her head off, much worse than the first time round. Lots of calpol and sleep - she didn't seem to bad in the afternoon. Not looking forward to next months - 3 jabs in one go!

Went to playgroup this morning though and she really didn't want to be there. She had her bottom lip stuck out a mile (she's going to be a real sulky toddler) and she cried everytime I stopped walking her around. Putting her down on the mat made her sob pathetically. Even the other babies/mums didn't distract her. Gave up after 20 minutes and came home - she's having a long sleep instead. She must still be feeling the after-effects.

Inzi - well done with the poo! As a rough guide, to get the amount of milk you should multiply the weight in lbs by 2.5 to get the number of ounces. So if Jane's 11lb 6oz then that's about 28oz per day - so I would say 25oz is ok. Wouldn't worry too much. Anya was 9lb 7oz at birth - now 12lb 11oz at 13 weeks so she has dropped a couple of curves on the chart, but she seems fine and is feeding well so not bothered at all.

Clu - hello and welcome!

Must go feed dd - back in a bit.

Sorry Inzi, didn't read your updated weight post. 12lb would be 30oz per day. Which milk are you using? Have you tried cartons instead of powder? More expensive, but I can't believe the difference it's made with Anya and you don't have to change brands.

I will probably get the train down then. I am a nervous driver.

Dareh slept 11 hours last night but the health visitor came round and made me feel all worried about it. She said it is too long. Are HV designed to make you feel like crap or what?

Stefka I am at your HV. babies will not sleep if they do not ned it. Ignore her.

That's what I thought but she arranged a time to come and weigh him to make sure he is ok.

Stefka - your HV is a tit, at her making you feel like something is wrong. Ben sleeps 12 hours at night nowt wrong with it at all

Oh ffs If your lo wasn't sleeping well, she would probably have a problem with that too. I would smile and nod Stefka and then carry on doing what you're doing if it's working and you're happy with it. If she asks you again, lie. That's what we did when our midwife gave us a bolocking when we gave Ollie a bottle of formula. She asked 'Any formula?' we said 'Oh no, no formula here.' Just as well she hadn't gone into the kitchen and seen the empty bottles

Stefka your hv is on another planet. What is normal at this age is very varied - the advice I have been given (which seems to make sense) is that if your baby wakes for a feed before 6 months they are hungry rather than habit so they should have it and not get too fixated on their sleeping through. However if you are lucky enough to have one that sleeps so long then niuce one and enjoy it - they are obviously getting what they need or they wouldn't sleep!

Dal sorry to hear all the crap your mother has put you through - couldn't put it better than anyasmum - it's her loss and her choice and all you can control is your response. I have a funny relationship with my brother which I will go into another time when Adam is asleep - basically he is a nice guy but disappears off the radar for months and years at a time. Used to make me upset and cross until dh pointed out there was nothing I could do about it so I might as well enjoy what relationship with him I can, try to stay in touch if that makes me feel better, but not to lose any sleep when he doesn't bother as its about him not me. Really helped and now I can enjoy his company when he's around without getting stressed when he isn't.

Muppet I know you have mentioned that thing about the cello exam before and it made me cry then too! And again now while writing this. How could you do that to your little child - be so deliberately cruel - when you should be swinging them around the room in excitement and praising them as much as you could? Just will never understand why some people behave like this.

Welcome and hello to clu!

Um - can't remember the rest and Adam getting grizzly (he's usually asleep now but woke early and has had an extra bottle - another for the growth spurt!) so will try and get on again later... Hello to everyone else in the meantime and glad Jane's jabs are OK inzi even if you got upset xxx

I know they have trained but most of baby care seems to involve a whole lot of opinion and it all depends what opinions your HV has to what she advises. Just remember you have an equally valid opinion also as you are the worlds expert on your baby. There is no other authority that knows your baby better than you. Dh alwasy says to me 'If we were in a cave and we had no books about baby care to read and no one to ask for advice -what would you do?'

...you'd let him sleep for as long as possible whilst you cleaned the cave and your DH went out hunting bears and beasties

Stefka think falkirk is on east coast mainline isn't it? Seem to remember seeing it when I went to Dundee... So is Berwick so you should be fine! I will be training it too - Adam doesn't like the car so train will be easier!

Anyasmum send me a mail if you're up for York - the more the merrier!!!!

Nellie sorry to hear of all the probs with your scar.... Fingers crossed things settle this time. And maybe Madeleine will settle better once you're finally off the antibiotics! Opening the scar would just mean taking the skin stitches out to let the infection out and for it to heal from the bottom up. The strength will still be there from the muscle so you should still be able to lift her and stuff. Will need dressing every day until it heals - it will look v unpleasant till then but once healed will look as though it had been stitched and be fine. Should have thought you'd be able to have it as a day case too unless you are ill with the infection but you will need sedation or an anaesthetic so dh or someone will need to be on hand to help for 24 hours after until that is out of your system...

Sorry really must go now - Adam is getting more cross by the minute!!!!

Hi Alice -yes I'm the one with the weirdy mother. I last saw her 7 years ago at my Grandad's funeral (where her own sisters wouldn't sit near her in church) and afterwards at the wake she insisted on telling everyone that the only reason that I was successful at music was because she tried so hard to stop me and it made me more determined. -Warped huh? She didn't notice others around her giving her strange looks.

I just think she couldn't possibly choose to have her 3 children not speak to her and to not know, let alone even meet, her 4 grandchildren. She's ill and that does not mean to say I have to put up with her emotional abuse.

It's a strange coincidence this has come up as Oliver is starting to piece together our family due to Great Grandma dying over Christmas. He was confused that Grandma is daddy's dad ('she's not your mummy, she's my grandma!) and Grandma's mum was ill and Aunty J is Daddy's sister and Uncle R is mummy's brother. Bless, he really doesn't get it! He did, however make the connection that he's never met my mother and keeps asking if we can ring her on the phone. Going to have to have 'that' conversation with him about my mother sooner than I hoped.

..that should read

Grandma is daddy's mum

God I'm confused no wonder he is

muppet loving your thing about what would you do if you lived in a cave!!

Adam and i have been chatting and he was giggling away. He is a little diamond!

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