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Dalrymps · 13/12/2007 21:16

Hey guys sorry for the sh*t title, if there's already been a new thread set up please direct me there???

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muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 15:57

I know you're going to say 'er, of course I have!!' but have you tried cooled boiled water?

ejt1764 · 08/01/2008 16:10

inzi - also, try massage - Mairwen gets a bit stuffed up because of the drugs she's on, and I find that massaging her lower belly helps enormously.

Rub circles around her belly below her belly button, then walk your fingers across her belly from left to right (as you look at her).

Also, bend her knees up, then push them in circles clockwise (I do this to round and round the garden).

I also march her legs to the Grand old Duke of York.

There's a really good book on massage that I borrowed from our library - it's this one - it's got a great routine in it for easing constipation and a gripy tum.

Who was Alice recommending the breast feeding book to? I have her copy, and can now pass it on of you want ... email me your address to eirian dot thomas at gmail dot com ...

Health Visitor came this morning - Mairwen weighs 14lb 7oz now - am very pleased and proud - I must have concentrated booby juice going on here!

Problem is that Mairwen has become a bottle-phobe - think I'm going to start a thread on it ...

DH away now 'til Thursday ... I can do this!

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muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 17:11

Ejt- fantastic news on the weight, you must have full fat creamy mummy milk!

MulledwineandJ2O · 08/01/2008 18:55

having to pop in quick as i've got a bath running, hope your all ok, had to do a mad rush to hospital today after i dropped Shannon-on her head, i was trying to put her in a door bouncer and she kind of toppled out sideways, she's got a bump to the head but is ok, just got to keep an eye on her.

right gotta go just thought i'd let you all know will try and get back later to catch up properly xx

strawberrylace · 08/01/2008 19:53

Hello everyone
Inzi - sorry you are having a bad time with Jane - fingers crossed hopefully some of these suggestions will work.
Ejt - it was me that Alice was recommending the BF book to - thanks for the offer of posting it on, but I have managed to order a copy from the local library, so hopefully i will be ok.
J20 - hope Shannon is ok
Muppet and Mine - have emailed you about the meet up, but forgot to say it was Strawberrylace! So the mysterious message from Moira is from me! (i forget that we all have 'proper' names in RL)
All of you with big babies - congrats on the weight gain . DS is a skinny minny in comparison...
Today we went to see a friend I met in hospital - her little boy is a day younger than mine, but a load bigger! I am hoping to introduce her to the wonderful world of MN soon. We just drank tea and the boys lay around and cooed to themselves.
Have just tried Olly in his bumbo seat and he looks like a proper little man sat up straight! As soon as the poorly laptop returns from the laptop hospital I will try and post some pictures
Hope you are all ok

muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 20:02

Strawberry -have emailed you!

EmMcK · 08/01/2008 20:11

Evening all, went to Kite Runner with my NCT group today. They have baby sessions at the local theatre which is lovely, but it was the most harrowing film. Felt like a large gin and a huge sanctioned sobbing session afterwards. Instead had cake.
Alice, FT and Ejt, hang in there with the absent dhs. I have four days to go, so halfway there.
Muppet, I am in London too so would also love to meet up. Could you email me at [email protected]. Mine, you might not be far away from me....am in north west.
Joseph did a poo today after a four day hold-in. Wasn't pretty, in fact can't believe a wee bod can hold that much, but he is a happier lad because of it. I can't imagine weaning him yet, he is going great guns on the breastmilk.

ellensmelons · 08/01/2008 20:43

inzi - i have also tries cooled boiled water cos dd constipated on SMA and, yes, she hates it! So i put a small amt of formula in it to give it some flavour and she seems fooled so far...

ejt - the massage and leg movements really do work. try rubbing the tummy around the belly button in a clockwise direction too.

winnie will email you. need to get off pc. dh wants it. he's just bought a new lambretta. forgot i was the keeper of 2 children.....

alicet · 08/01/2008 21:01

Hello lovely ladies!

Getting very excited about all these meet ups!

Floria and Dalrymps good to hear you are up for York! MrsFish got your email today about this too so cheers for that! And I saw Choc today so I know she is keen too... I am very happy to organise it - I too have fond memories Floria as that is where dh used to live when we first met. Not sure the places we used to frequent will be suitable for mums and babies but dh still has lots of friends there who may be able to advise.

If Inzi and Stefka can make Berwick I'm up for that too - maybe Dal could arrange that as I don't know it at all!

Muppet got your email too about Ledbury. So far its you, me and ejt. Anyone else?

Oh and my hugabub goes a bit slack too so I make sure I tie it on pretty tight so when I put him in his head is on my shoulder. Then he ends up settling to just below it - its really comfy and he will sleep up to 3 hours like that. I also find that is seems to get gradually longer until you wash it so even when you get used to how long the ends need to be you need to tighten every couple of days. Then remember they can be shorter again once you wash!

Can seconds ejt's massage tips. Also find bending their legs then pushing up towards their tummy so their knees are pressing on it works well - often too well so don't try without a nappy on!!!!

J20 - sorry to hear about your hospital dash - hope Shannon is OK

Had a lovely day today. Took Adam swimming and then met Choc for lunch. Had a lovely time as always -she is very good company and is doing an amazing job with her lo despite some testing sleep avoiding behaviour!!! Hope you have a better night tonight Choc x

Anyway my mate came and helped with bath and bed tonight so I am still sane and chilling with a glass of wine. Sure they're saving it all up for tomorrow whenI have to manage alone - still even if its shite and they both play up dh will be in between 8 and 9...

It's 5 years today that dh and I first met online - on the 11th its 5 years since we first met in real life! Time flies!!!!

Anyway please forgive me those who I've not mentioned personally - I am thinking of you all!!! Just have a crap memory [smil]

muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 21:01

Hi EmMck - I have emailed you with what strawberrylace and I were thinking, let me know what you think

muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 21:07

Hi Alice, glad you could make sense of my email

I was thinking, I could make the Birmingham meet up too that someone mentioned as it's only an hr ish from Swindon. Whoever mentioned it my email is [email protected]. Let me know if anything is arranged, I can't help with the arrangements, sorry, as I don't know Brum at all. Just been there on a canal boat -Dh's and mines 1st hoilday together.

J20 - at Shannon, hope she (and you!) are okay.

Dalrymps · 08/01/2008 21:28

hey everyone, got soaked in the rain walking over to town but stopped at pil's for a cuppa on way bac and mil dried my stuff in her tumble dryer then i set off again when the rain had stopped, she's such an angel, i really don't get on with my own mother fell out with her around the time of my wedding (oct 2005) and haven't made up properly since, my dad has taken her side so i don't see either of them and they don't know about ds ... anyway as i was saying my mil is so lovely and has really supported me and helped me out since ds was born, and before for that matter, don't know what i'd do without her fil is brilliant too! Stefka, where in scotland are you? far from Berwick? be good to do a meet for you me, inzi, choc and alice and anyone else who i've probably missed out from this area???
Jusy realised that i've never mentioned the probs i have with my parents on here before, i feel i know you all well enough to mention it now though, it's a long long storey but my two brothers and thier partners don't talk to them either as my mum is so nasty and can't stop insulting people over and over agian, is such a sad situation, she has a history of depression, when i used to live at home (before i moved away yo uni aged 19) she used to imagine things and stay in bed all day and drink lots in the evening and have blazing rows with my dad etc etc, i tried to distance myself from her once at uni but when i met dh i tried really hard to have a normal relationship with her as i felt i was a grown up and could cope with her and ignore her bad points, she got on really well with dh and never had a bad word to say about him (this was very rare for her, she had always put down and insulted every friend and partner i'd had, same with my bro's too, she's very insecure and jelous and if we don't 'behave' how she wants she becomes nasty and controlling and blames our 'bad behaviour' on our partners) anyway things got stressfull around the planning of the wedidng and she started putting me down and trying to control every choice i made and calling me a 'spoilt brat' if i expressed a preference, she also started insulting my dh and we had terrible arguments as she refused to treat me as an adult. She tried to drag my best friend/brothers fiance in to it too, she was my chief bridesmade and my mum wanted her to agree with the nasty things she was saying about me and as my friend refused she started being nasty to her also, same with my other brother and his partner who was also one of my bridesmades. She basically ruined the planning of my wedding and got me really stressed out, my best friend started having panick attacks, i lost loads of weight, she told my dad my dh had threatenend to 'beat him up' whenhe never said anything of the sort - she just did this to turn my dad against us, he always believes her lies , she shouted at me the night before my wedding, left me to put my dress on alone and walked down the aisle to my entrance music before me... i've tried to sort this mess out so many times but just keep reaching a dead end as she won't change and is still as nasty and angry as she was over 2 years ago. This breaks my heart, i feel so bad that ds has grandparents he's never met, i feel even worse that there are people who have lost their parents and wish they had met their lo's and here i am with my parents alive and well and i can't sort it out so he can meet them, ds was born on my dads birthday
Sorry guys, just felt i had to get that off my chest, you've probably never noticed that i've never mentioned my parents on this thread before but this is why, this is a small small part of the storey, the situation in a nutshell is that i think my mum has some kind of personality disorder (sil is a psychologist) but she won't accept her behaviour is not normal and she won't get help and my dad agrees with her cause she's so manupulative. I'd love my dad to meet her, he's just a pawn in her game but i know he'd be a great grandad , think i'd better stop writing now cause i'm making myself sad.
Any opinions, words of advice would help although we've discussed it over and over and it seems impossible!
Catch ya soon

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Dalrymps · 08/01/2008 21:30

WOW wat a long post, forgot to say J20 hope shannon is ok! i banged ds's head on the bedroom door when it swung shut the other day, he cried but it was only minor, no bump, it just scuffed his skin a bit. I felt like a horrible person!!!!

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Stefka · 08/01/2008 21:31

I am in Falkirk which is half an hour from Edinburgh. My geography is terrible so I don't know where Berwick is.

ChocolateHobnob · 08/01/2008 21:37

Hi all

J20 - hope Shannon is okay!

Em McK, we have baby film showings here but I dont think my lo would sit still for that long! I've seen adverts for it and babies are all either asleep or feeding... walking round singing Three Blind Mice might not cut it...

Parents of constipated babies - my lo seems to be the opposite, pooing for Britain! Yesterday she even pooed in the bath (gross). She's okay though- and she had loads of sleep today so fingers crossed it helps tonight. DH has just taken over Operation Put Rebecca to Sleep, which began at 7 30 (it's a slow process...).

Alice, glad bathtime went okay. Wish I could come and help you tomorrow but we need all hands on deck for the sleep operation here... as always...

Re the hugabub, Alice ought to set herself up as a seller - she was getting queries again today...

OK, time to check on sleep operation... have a good night all!

Dalrymps · 08/01/2008 21:40

stefka, berwick is on the border between england and scotland, north east, its about 60 miles south of edinburgh

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AnyasMum07 · 08/01/2008 21:50

Lots of catching up to do! Anya had jabs today - screamed the place down, poor lamb. She was a bit cranky this afternoon but seems ok on the calpol.

Got her appointment through for her MRI scan - a week on Thursday. We were expecting it to be at about 6 months so that they could do it under a general anaesthetic, but the letter just says to make sure she's fed and they'll do it while she's asleep. The scan can take anything up to an hour so I admire their optimism!

Started baby massage classes yesterday - anybody else doing that? Anya loved it.

Weird question - is anybody else's hair falling out?! I don't mean in big clumps, but I'm leaving loads of stray hairs everywhere. Is this because it goes thicker in pregnancy and my hormones are now back to normal? Or is it just stress ?

Re meet ups - may be able to make the York one - lost track of who's organising it...

Strawberry - ooh, windchimes - makes mental note to buy some tomorrow. We've got one of those cot show things too - a Winnie the Pooh one. Anya loves it - I'm using it while she's still in her moses basket so hopefully the transition to her cot will be less traumatic.

Buffy - so sorry you're feeling down. Hope things get better for you soon - feel free to rant at us as much as you want.

Inzi - re your 25oz per day - how big is Jane?

Welcome Mine!

Stefka - hope your nights get better. Anya can also be difficult to get to sleep, especially in evenings. Does Dareh cry when he lies in his cot or does he just lie there awake? It easily takes Anya 20-30 mins of just lying quietly with a dummy before she actually goes to sleep, and that's when she's tired (but not overtired). It's taken longer than that in the past - an hour or more. If I take her out and stimulate her in any way though it takes longer, and if I keep her awake she gets overtired and screams. Now I put her night show on - no other lights/sound, no talking or eye contact - so she's only got one thing to concentrate on, and just sit there popping her dummy back in when it falls out. Very boring and requires lots of patience, but better than the overtired screaming. Have you read baby whisperer? On their website there's a whole thread devoted to trying to get 'spirited' babies to sleep - www.babywhisperer.com/smf/index.php?topic=103962.0 May help.

MrsF - Anya's trying for raspberries - she almost puts her lips together and then just grins and makes a gurgling/purring noise instead. She thinks this is the funniest thing ever - probably because I'm laughing my head off . She's started talking to ceiling lights now - and the files on the bookcase opposite where she's fed. Either that or she's got an imaginary friend

Can't believe everybody's weaning already! Alicet/Polar, I'm with you - don't think Anya's ready for that yet - she's only 12lb 11oz at 13 weeks and with the feeding problems we've had (now sorted luckily) I'll leave it a bit.

J2O - hope Shannon is ok, must have been scary.

Dalrymps - sorry to hear that your mum is such a nightmare - it must be tough now that you're a mum too. It's hard, but you can't influence how your mum behaves or how your dad reacts. The only thing you have any control over is how you react to them both. All you can do is accept that they are who they are and, given that, do what's best for your lo. I know that's easier said than done.

Wow, long post. Feeding time for little girls I think.

muppetgirl · 08/01/2008 22:13

Dal - Your mother sounds a lot like mine. I haven't had contact for about 7 years. She lives abroad and knows nothing of my marriage, my 2 children or my brother's marriage and 2 children. She doesn't even know that my 2 brothers don't live in this country anymore. I made the choice not to have contact as she is an alchoholic who has suffered with depression since having me -was institutionalised after having a breakdown. My PND has been attrbuted to my parents divorce and her behaviour before and after it. A quick example is when I passed my 1st 'cello music exam at 11, she told me I'd failed, watched me cry when I'd actually passed with a high distinction. I couldn't have her doing that to my children...

If you ever feel you need to get anything off your chest or just need a rant or just fancy a chat with someone who knows a little of 'interesting' mothers email me [email protected]

nellieloula · 08/01/2008 22:17

Hi everyone; so much to catch up on and I really wanted to do it individually - but can't remember any of the details and don't have time to go through it all again I'm afraid. But hope you're all ok this evening. Can't believe it's weaning time already though - I'm hoping to be able to do the 6 months on b/milk again esp since I don't think I'll be having any more LO's so want to keep going as long as I can....

things here are ok - Madeleine is doing really well but still only going 3 or 4 hours at night. DH is here at the moment so it's not so bad, but his next job will hopefully start in a few weeks - we'll see how I manage with two on my own then!

I'm still having problems with my c-section scar; it's still infected and I'm now on my 6th lot of ab's. Dr has said if it isn't clear on Thurs, I'll be referred to hospital for surgery to re-open it. Can't imagine how that would work, esp with Madeleine as I'm sure they wouldn't let her come in with me and I wouldn't really want her there (not exactly healthy places). We' ll see what they say.

Better go and get on - can I ask, what do you all do for the nighttime routine? I've just fed M and she is wide awake again. I used to be able to feed DS to sleep (bad I know) and that would be it but this little lady has other ideas! would be interested to know what others do. have a good evening everyone

Dalrymps · 08/01/2008 22:17

Tanks muppet, nice to know there's someone out there who can relate to the situation will email you if i ever feel like a chat about it. Anyasmum, thanks for your advice, it makes sense, guess i need to realise what she does is out of my control.

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Dalrymps · 08/01/2008 22:42

berwick is just off the A1 if that helps, also a train station here

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MrsFish · 08/01/2008 23:13

J20 - I hope Shannon is ok. Try not to feel bad about it, I did far worse to Sam and he came through ok

Dal- sorry to hear about your family troubles, what a horrid situation

Nellie - I hope your scar gets sorted soon, I'm shocked that you are still having problems.

I've been to the cinema with DH tonight, first night out together in weeks, we saw The Golden Compass, it was very good but its one of those films that will be a sequel, so how long before that comes out I don't know.

Well after the blip the other night when Ben woke for a feed he slept through till 5.45am and I managed to get him back to sleep till 6.45 finally feeding him at 7.30. Hopefully he will sleep through till 7am tomorrow as I need to go to bed, have usually been asleep a couple of hours by now, so night all, and I'll see you in the morning

clu · 09/01/2008 00:41

Hi can i join in here? purlease I live in glasgow and have 1 dd born 26 october. Ive been reading your posts and it is so nice to read about babies at the same stage. She is getting her jabs tomorrow which I am worried about but have the calpol ready.

And Im sorry but the story about the argument over (the fuckin line in the steriliser)is still making me laugh half an hour later. That is exactly the kind of argument me and DF have been having!