October 2007 - the golden piglets have landed

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I couldn't find a postnatal thread - not sure if I am just missing it with post-childbirth brain! Anyone else around??

Thanks for the advice inzi, have been geling quite sick, did you wear the bra all the time? i'm scared to take mine of to shower/bath incase my bobs explode! I feel really guilty too although i know deep down it's the right decision for me as i wasn't enjoying bf and was too stressfull with the pain . Lo seems fine on ff, loves it, i think i've just convinced myself he 'knows' i've taken the breast milk away and he'll hate me for it or something, dh says to stop beating myself up about it as he's had 3 weeks of bm, i know he's right. anyway off to take some more paracetamol

hi girls

another quickie i'm afraid, off shopping.

re facebook and bebo, don't know what bebo is, LES invited me to one, not sure which but it wouldn't let me join cause i couldn't put my zip code in.

anyway back to baby stuff! i'm coming off bf, but i'm not as brave as you lot, i've been letting her feed of my breasts when i need to, about 1 or 2 times a day and i've been feeding her through the night, she seems happier with ff though.

also, anyone know when periods come back? i think i've been on one since Sat, but not sure-it was after drunken sex, so wondering if its normal or not.

inzi-glad you did well without dp, who needs men?!

choc(i think its you?) how annoying and selfish of dp to go and hurt his arm! ;) hope he's ok

does anyone know anyone in need of a pram? i've got my old one for sale, but i don't really want anything for it, just don't want to put it on freecycle and someone that doesn't actually need it gets it. if you do, email me at [email protected] .uk

right, better go get some food

dal- meant to say, you've done so well for 3 wks, dp's right, don't beat yourself up, a happy mummy is a happy baby

No one should beat themselves up for switching to formula. Before I had a baby I had know idea how hard BF actually was. I am still at it for now but I need to know that I can switch if I have to. I want to try and keep going until I heal up to see if once my nipples are crack free if BF is easier. If it still hurts then I will have to rethink.

How does everyoen's LO sleep? Dareh is a pretty good sleeper once he is alseep but getting him to go to sleep can be a challange. During the day it is no problem - I put him in the sling and he is asleep in about five minutes. He fusses at night though. Last night he had a feed, a play, a bath and another feed. He still woke up five minutes later crying and was awake till about midnight- he's been up since half five! I feed him again around tenish then I gave him the dummy which he liked but he can't hold on to it for long so I have to sit with him to keep popping it back in. Once he was asleep though he slept until seven!

collywobbles - i am jealous1!! that sounds like a fab sleep! i am going to try really hard in the next few days to get marcy to start going through from 11pm till 7am. i have always had to 'try' with mine, i have never had one of these babies that do it all by themselves at 6 wks (or 2 1/2!!)! having said that, my other two were going from 11 till 7 by 8 wks and that is my aim this time too, although marcy seems nowhere near doing that at the moment!!!

alicet - of course it gets easier!!!!! then it gets harder again when no. 2 starts moving around!!! and then it gets even harder when you get broody again and decide to go for no. 3!!! i had a few really stressful days when my dd1 was born and ds was still so young, but i am SO glad now that i had them so close together cos they play so nicely together and they really are best friends (MOST of the time!!!) you will be fine, you know you will!

HI All!
Alex had his 8 wk check today...wimpy mummy cried along with him when he had the jabs ...but he's doing well, has put on 18oz this week, (no wonder when he still is demanding scoffing every 3 hours day and night..in fact on the hour every hour this morning!)has grown 6cm (58cm now)since birth and responded to all the tests perfectly (in fact when placed on his tummy lifted himself as high as a 20 wk old would!... proud mummy bragging moment there )
Proud of myself too for re-joining slimming world last week and losing 4.5lb this week ...
tarnation...got to go teach...I'll be back

Alicet - a friend of mine said the secret was to get out with the children and I am taking her advice. Today we went to a soft play area and then my first toddler group - went with a friend - which was actually really good. Downside is ds1 has just gone to bed after lasting all day without any sleep so don't know when he'll go to bed tonight! I had a day from hell last week and ended up ranting at dh who left work at 16h to come home and took both boys out in the car for two hours so I could get some properly undisturbed sleep. Good days and bad days definitely!

Greedy - I have no idea how you manage with 3 and have the deepest respect for you - same goes for anyone with more than two actually!!

Floria - I was welling up before they even gave him the jab and found it really hard to hold it together when the nurse produced a needle half the size of my wee baby!! Hate the jabs... He had a bit of a temperature last night as well which wasn't great.

Collywobbles - perhaps you just have one of THOSE babies who sleep through from early on... Dead jealous! Joseph feeds frequently in the evening and then at around 03:00 and again at 05:00 and I think I'm pretty lucky after ds1 who fed about 4 times a night...

To anyone giving up bf, I think you have to be very bloody-minded to do it when you have other young children. I am finding that a DVD of Tractor Tom works wonders, but ds1 is watching more tv than I'd like as a result... I agree that you just need to do what is right for you and I did read once that babies get most of the benefit of bf in the first few days/weeks.

Hello Everyone.

I have got my 6 week check tomorrow and Shula has hers on Monday. She sleeps brilliantly for me. Last night I put her down at 11.30 after a nappy change and feed and she slept until 5.15am. After a change of nappy and another feed she slept then until 7.45. I then got her dresses and at 8.20am took DD1 to school and went into town. I got home at 11.30am and she had stayed asleep the whole time, only waking up when I got the to the front door.

I hope everyone else is well.

Hello everyone, just thought I would pop in and say hello DH was off work today so I have some time to myself!

I haven't read all the posts and I don't think I will have time to! But I did just want to send big hugs to those who are giving up or thinking of giving up BF and feeling guilty about it. I think it is hugely unfair the amount of pressure put on mums to BF not all of us like Jogging or are able to run a marathon so why should we all like or be able to bf. A calm happy mummy is the best thing for every baby

Hope everyone is keeping well and that you are all managing to get some sleep I am truly amazed at how little sleep you can survive on. Before I had a baby I wouldn't have belived it!

Hey everyone, hope you're all doing ok, took ds to be weighed today, he's 3 weeks old, was 6lb 5oz when born, now 7lb 1 and a half oz so doing well! ff going well, just waiting for my boobs to stop hurting . inzi - you say you're boobs are soft now but you're still binding them, how long ago did you give up? just to get an idea for myself , glad the ff is going well for you too. Told the health visitor that i'd switched to ff today and although she was ok about it she did go on a bit much about all the different feeding optins and about 'having a chat' with the bf councillor, i had to say several times that i've already made my mind up and have already stopped and am trying to get through cold turkey with my boobs. Last thing i want to do is start bf again when it's nearly 48 hrs since i stopped and it's not what i want to do, anyway i jaut ignored her and said i'd have a think about it but i'm going to carry on ff as planned. hugs to all those suffering with sleep deprivation/ sore boobs/ hormones etc it will get better. Health visitor also said lo's start sleeping for longer stretches from 6-8wks, our ds isn't to bad for not sleeping anyway but we'll see! Anyway catch ya all later

Just a quickie from me ladies as I'm shattered.

Good to hear it gets easier greedy and mump! Not got another day on my own till Monday but we are going to a toddler group in the am and a friend's house in the pm so keeping Sam busy! Greedy really don't know how you manage!

Greedy I'm also interested in how you have made your dc's sleep through by 8 weeks? Sam only started doing this regularly a couple of months before Adam was born!!! Tips please!

Polar good to hear from you - agree sleep deprivation with a lo is like nothing ever experienced.

Floria congrats on the weight loss! I am pleased with myself today for having ajacket potato with cottage cheese and no cake!!!! Shame I had to spoil it with a Chinese tonight!!!

Speaking of which I'm off to bed = dh doing late feed tonight so the sooner I crash the longer I sleep! Will try and catch up properly tomorrow but I'm thinking of you all - those who are having bad times and even those whose babies sleep! (bitches the lot of you! )

See you soon xxxx

Thanks for the advice inzi, sleep well

Inzi you should be safe to take off binding now. I didn't bind mine and they were bloody painful for 5 days, but once they went soft they haven't filled up again, the leakage (minimal) didn't totally stop for about two weeks though

Hello all!

It's hard to find time to write - I manage to read but I get bored of typing with one hand, though I guess I need to learn!

Alice, I think you deserved that Chinese takeaway! Now you've got me wanting one. I am on the biscuit and chocolate diet; I seem to still need the sweet comfort I needed in pregnancy. I'm pleased that my bump seems to have receded a lot but haven't dared go near the scales... I'm banking on breastfeeding as a diet substitute...

Dal, good luck with the cold turkey! And well done for making a decision that will be best for you and Dylan in the end. Happy mummy, happy baby... as Inzi and Alice seem to have found out...

Hi Polarmummy, how is Zoe?

Here all's well. I gave up the nipple shields the other day, but Rebecca's still iffy on the left breast which is now grazed so I think I'll be back on them to give nipple a break today.

Question: can I drink and bf?? I really wanted red wine last night and I had a little glass at 8 pm; had to feed Rebecca again at 10 and felt guilty. All of my books say no alcohol when bf but I am sure I was told somewhere that a little glass would be fine...?

This week has been a siege of visitors but we went out again yesterday, bought Rebecca some cute girl outfits in Next, had a habitual coffee and cookie, took the pram. She slept through it. Today my pil and sil plus her daughter (aged 3) are coming - her 2 year old son is sick and has stayed behind. I'm dreading it because my mil can be very tricky and I am anticipating a lot of criticism. The house is a tip - full of presents for Rebecca from all sorts of people, presents for us, flowers from everywhere - hmm.

Time for breakfast and then Rebecca's first trip to Tesco! The excitement... hope you're all okay.

Choc

I heard that alcohol only passes to baby if you get truly rat-arsed! Almost sure it was a midwife who told me this.

I'm drinking guiness (strictly for the iron ) and wine for the sheer pleasure. Happy mummy...

a x

Choc - your body takes 1 hour to eliminate 1 unit of alcohol so if you have a glass of wine and then bf two hours later, there should not be any alcohol in your system to pass on. That said, I occasionally drink and bf fairly soon after and have noticed no bad side effets. In fact, when I bf ds1 once after drinking lots of champagne, he slept for 5 hours!! That was the longest time he slept at that stage and for quite a while after...

hi all

re drinking when bf, if i've had a drink and then fed Shannon through the night she tends to have a very pooey nappy and sleeps more, but can then get grumpy later on, like a hangover, i think 1 or 2 drinks is ok, but definately don't reccomend anymore than that ime!

hope everyone's ok

Hi all

Dh didn;t get home from work last night until 9.30pm!!! So I missed out on my extra sleep and are feeling really groggy today. Took Ollie to Nursery today and his teacher showed me what he had said about their topic of feelings

Teacher: What makes you feel sad oliver?
Oliver: When mummy and daddy put me on the silly step
Teacher: why would you be put on the silly step Oliver?
Oliver: Erm, that's a bit tricky to answer...

Henry seemed to double feed during the night in that he fed, waited 5 mins and then did it all again - am getting worried I'm not filling him up as he wanted to do that again this morning feeding at 9, then 10 and he had a meltdown at 11 but I gave him the dummy and let him grizzle his way to sleep. Am also thinking of introducing the nap-in-your-own-bloody-bed from next week as he just wants to be carried around all the time and that means I'm getting very little done. We're going to buy a monitor for his bedroom as when I'm in the kitchen he'll be 2 flights of stairs above me.

My weight has gone from 12 stone 4 to 10 stone 1 which I am really pleased about but the wrinkly tummy is really hideous, especially as H was no2. I only have 1/2-a stone to lose but it's the excess skin that seems to be the problem. Ollie is off to a party where we don't have to stay tomorrow so I am off to the gym and dh will have Henry. Not going to go hell for leather as is only 3 weeks for me since Henry was born but I think a nice bob around and time in the spa pool -couldn't so when I was pregnant- is something I'd really enjoy and relax in.

I can get my rings on again wohoo! So all that sweating at night is actually doing something then...

re the drinking and b/f -I have the odd glass of wine and G&T and I am comfortable with that.

Hope you've all had a good day
x

Hey there everyone, hope you're all doing ok, just a quick question for those of you who have switched to ff... did your lo's poo's change? I'm using sma gold, ds used to do lots of runny yellow poo's but since swapping to formula he's doing less poo's (still several a day) and they're a lot more solid, a bit like cookie dough consistency, they just kind of stick to his bum crack , is this normal??? any advice gratefully recieved thanks

Yep, that's what happened with my 1st when we switched x

In fact we were very obsessed with the colour of Ollie's poos and dh wanted to save certain nappies to show the hv....

yep our poo is the same!

muppet-great weight loss! i've gone from 13 to anything between 10 and 11.

right going to try and have a nap

Muppet - I carry Joe in a sling so I can still do housework if I am here by myself with him. Just a thought...

Mump -had thought of getting a sling -are they heavy in them though? It was easier with Ollie as he screamed whether or not you picked him up whereas Henry loves to be held and cuddled which is lovely I tried feeding him, changing nappy and then left him in his carrycot upstairs in the living room so I could do jobs but he just screamed for 20mins solid then on and off for another 10.

Will have a look at slings at the weekend methinks...