TTC First Baby Catch-up With Our Babies Continued!!

[ELW85]

Hi all

As I’m rubbish and keep double posting I thought I’d start a new thread as we’re nearly at 1k.
I don’t have all of the OG’s so apologies for anyone I miss or anyone I miss in general (blaming lack of coffee this morning!!)

@Delilah7 @RanchoRelaxo @MrsR16 @thumper59 @trashkitten10 @Bostonfern @crossfitgirl @Fivebyfive2 @MrsEG @purplefig @LarryDavid @Lemonysherbet @Stormtrooperjulian @MrsH497 @LokiCat @Cupcakesandglitter

@stormtrooperjulian hello lovely!! Good to hear from you 😊 sorry Dex hasn't been sleeping through! We've all been having a rough few nights recently, there must be something in the air! Oh, holiday sounds good! Where are you off too?

@ELW85 oh to be a fly on the wall in your house last night! I'm never able to put him down fully awake - he's far too nosey for his own good. On a good day, he'll go down when he's very very very sleepy (after a bottle and cuddles) but on a not so good day, I'll make sure he's asleep good and proper before attempting to put him down. I've also discovered that he much prefers sleeping on his side...

@thumper59 the tears!! The tantrums! And we can't do anything to help! 😂 poor little boys trying to run before they can walk...

@MrsR16 - I kicked DH. Not going to lie, full on “are you fucking kidding me” kind of kick.
Well the never ending saga of Finn’s sleep continues. Just put him down for a nap much earlier than usual as he looked shattered. Point blank refused his dummy and rubbed his eyes then starfished and fell asleep.
He’s not himself after his Imms so just need to make sure I help him get as much sleep as I can via any method required!!
I wonder if I could still feed him to sleep if I needed to 🧐

Estate agent has valued the house, and we’re set to make a decent profit. They’re on a % basis though which I don’t like. Gonna do a bit of ringing round this afternoon and see if I can get a better deal. Agents these days are all the same with things like Rightmove levelling the market so I don’t really see why I should fork out more!
Plus when I tried to call their office earlier; it took me 11 attempts to get through. Not great if someone wants to buy my place and can’t even get a viewing!!

@ELW85 😂😂 your poor DH! Although I could have murdered mine last night - snoring away while I was awake. However, he then woke up and actually asked if he could help, which was sweet and probably saved his life 🤣 with Finn, i wouldn't even worry about feeding to sleep - do what you need to! Estate agents are cheeky buggers... there are some at work we hate dealing with! There'll definitely be some agents around that offer a fixed fee and that are easier to get hold of! Keep persevering!

@ELW85 @MrsR16 I'm off to the Norfolk broads for a couple of weeks, I'm hoping Dex will grow up loving the water and boats like my side of the family

@ELW85 Dex self settles reliably now, I put him down awake and leave the room and usually he's asleep with his bum in the air within 5 minutes. I sleep trained him at 6 months. The self settling was much more hit and miss before that, he often relied on me to feed him to sleep.

@MrsR16 - don’t feel too sorry for him! He surreptitiously dropped helping me with taking turns with night feeds when still furloughed. I was too tired to notice until he was nearly back at work and I thought: “you haven’t done a night feed in over a month”

@stormtrooperjulian - ooh your break sounds lovely!
I really want to avoid sleep training but I have zero idea what to do with the latest trend of hand obsession! He’s getting over tired because he wants to lie there and play with his hands all night.

@ELW85 thus far not a lot has phased me with him but this regression has had me sat in tears most nights the past week! Reminding myself it's only a phase...

@mrsr16 I admire their determination! I wish I had it for doing work our DVD's and eating healthily 😫😂

Hi all, lovely to see all the updates, sorry I've not been replying I had a visit from dhs parents and been trying to get to grips with the new routine for Joe; following as much as I can but tweaking where required. We had planned to start really gentle sleep training to get him off feeding to sleep, but he appears to be teething so that's going on the back burner. To be honest I can see us not going through with it at all... I was already very reluctant and when Joe was crying earlier and we were comforting him, dh was just like 'yeah I don't think I could listen to this for long at all'!! We'll review once Joe is more himself I think, but kind of hoping just being in a routine will make at least some difference?! Dh is going to make more effort with naps when he's home, sitting in the rocking chair with him, so it's not all on me and my boobs! A crutch of a different kind, but at least one that anyone can use! I have a ridiculous fear of being in hospital or something and no one else being able to get him to sleep without loads of crying!

Also, no judgement at all on those who have sleep trained, I totally get it and we may still go down that route later on! I'm a massive wimp and Dh has dysphraxia, he physically can't stand really loud/shrill noise for too long... If Joe had been a colic baby we'd probably be divorced by now!

@ELW85 honestly, when they drop the night feeds, it's the best thing ever! Ethan's not had a 10pm bottle for nearly a week now 😊

@thumper59 haha! I wish I had their determination for anything!

@Fivebyfive2 you're doing a great job! Don't you forget that! ❤️ sending virtual hugs your way!

Hey @Fivebyfive2 thankyou for thinking of me - going through a really tough time to be honest, made worse with some horrible family news and everything seems to be on top of me atm. Need to have a good catch up on the thread but finding everything a bit difficult. I hope you're well? How's weaning going? Joe looks so cute in his high chair 🥰 x

@MrsR16, thanks sweet I actually needed that tonight! Poor Joe has woken up screaming at 9, 10, 11 and 2.30! But he goes straight for the boob and before we can give calpol he has conked again?!! Hoping he has another block now, but who knows... Hope Ethan is on good form tonight! Xx

@cupcakesandglitter, oh no I'm sorry to hear you're having a crap time. Sending virtual hugs and cake xx

Anyone else in the (almost) 3am club tonight?? Xx

I'm In the 3am club 🤣🤣
Pretty happy about it though as this is her first wake up since 9pm. 🎉🎉
You're doing a great job @Fivebyfive2 I'm in the same boat as you with sleep training, don't think I could do it so just going to ride out the development. Also boob to sleep here, I think I'm just lazy!

@cupcakesandglitter I'm sorry to read you're having a rough time of it at the moment! We're here for you as much as we can be!

@Fivebyfive2 oh no, that's not much fun for anyone in your house! How did he get on from 3?

@LikeTheFruit that's a great stretch of sleep!! 🎉

Well, Ethan's just given us our best night ever - he had to be resettled back to sleep last night at around 7ish, but he went right through till 5:25! He's just now fallen asleep again haha! All of you who are waiting for sleep to happen developmentally, it just might! 👍

Morning all, just catching up! So much sleep talk - it’s the same on our NCT group - one of their babies is having a 6 month regression - who knew!??!
The boys have done me well tonight thankfully, they both seemed to have settled past the ‘rolling and waking up’ phase (of hell) and are now very comfy sleeping on their bellies. In a ‘weird twin thing’, the sleep identically - on tummy, head to the right, right arm sticking out of cot bars. They’re like mirror images! But last night was a dream, down at 6:30 and they’re still asleep.
We’re still in teething hell during the day but the real crankiness is going away and now they’re just chewing anything in sight (including each other’s feet) and dribbling everywhere. How long does it go on for?! Are they this bad with every tooth??

@thumper59 you look fabulous as ever! Sleep regressions are so shit aren’t they especially when you’ve gotten used to your sleep again! I’ll pray it passes quickly for you!!

@stormtrooperjulian Sorry Dex sleep has gone to pot too!! I’m sure it’ll just be a phase especially if he’s more on the move now!

@Fivebyfive2 Just do whatever works for you and your family! Sleep training isn’t for everyone and doesn’t even work for everyone (didn’t for my sister she just had to ride it out with her daughter until she figured out how to sleep through on her own!) There’s no right or wrong. Babies aren’t robots they’re tiny little people and they won’t all react or do the same as other babies! I know it’s rough when you’re not getting much sleep though!! You’re doing such an amazing job with Joe he always looks so so happy!

@LikeTheFruit Woohoo go Esme! Excellent snooze!

@ELW85 Oh that’s fab news on the house value but definitely shop around for a better agent! There’s tonnes to choose from these days!
Re: self settling the boys are good but Conor has his moments where the only thing that sends him off is me rocking him and singing ‘don’t worry be happy’ - you just gotta do what you gotta do!!!

@cupcakesandglitter so sorry to hear you’re having a tough time, hope all’s okay

@MrsR16 Whoop what an excellent night from Ethan! Hopefully that’s the hell weeks over for you haha!!

Oh, also - I’m finally going to the hairdressers today!!! 🥳💇🏼‍♀️💃🏼 Bring on 3 hours to myself and a head massage!!!!

@MrsEG it was literal hell when Ethan was pushing his first tooth through... the day it popped he was fine! The dribble was awful for about 4 days prior to the first one popping. He's started dribbling again, so I'm hoping his top teeth will be through soon enough! That's so sweet that the boys sleep identically! Ooh!! Enjoy the hairdressers! 😊

Hi all, happy Friday! Thank you so much for all the support, I love this group so much 🙂 Joe woke at 5.15 and dh took him downstairs but I could hear the fussing! He's already had 1 nap and looks ready for another bless him. Here he is chewing, it's all he wants to do... Oh and he treated me to a never ending poo after dh went to work 😂

Really glad to hear some of you got decent nights, it gives me hope!

@MrsEG, lol I'm so gonna be like your sis from what you've said! I think Joe may be an only child though 😂

Anyone got weekend plans? Xx

Photos actually attached now!

Afternoon all

I’ll catch up properly in a bit but essentially I’ve been sat on the edge of the bed crying today.
Finn isn’t sleeping deeply because of his hand obsession now he’s not swaddled and he’s exhausted. He’s constantly in this light sleep.

I’m in this awful no-man’s land with Finn’s sleep...he’s started rejecting his dummy (still fighting with his hands since we stopped swaddling) and now when he wakes up I have no idea how to get him back to sleep because he’s fighting the dummy.
It’s so weird. I have no idea what to do?
2 wake ups at 1 (from 8pm) and then 5am and down til 8 (lie in!) as I brought him in with me.
I know that’s pretty good but I hate hearing him upset because he can’t get back to sleep...
Any suggestions? I feel so lost.

@cupcakesandglitter - really sorry you’re having a rough time. I hope you’re ok.

@Fivebyfive2 - I don’t want to sleep train either; don’t think I could take the tears but I feel increasingly like it’s inevitable if I can’t find a way to get to settle him?

@MrsR16 @LikeTheFruit - great stretches of sleep!

@MrsEG - I sometimes sing Stand by Me by Ben E King 😂

@ELW85 Oh hun!! I don’t mean this to sound accusatory or anything like that I’m genuinely just curious - how do you know his hands are keeping him awake? If he’s doing a long stretch like you say? What is it that makes you think he isn’t sleeping?
I often see the boys wriggle and roll about all over the show during the night but i think that’s pretty normal! Is he just seeming tired in the day? Sorry to be asking a load of questions I’m just curious!
I don’t even know what to say either - it’s so so so tough this parenting business. Could you bundle him the pram and just try and get out for some fresh air?

@Fivebyfive2 ha! If it’s any consolation at all my sisters little girl sleeps soundly now - it did take her a while to get there but she did. After so long waking, still for feeds too (definitely comfort, but nothing else got her down) she suddenly just one night got it. She’s a 12-hours a night kiddo now!
Ahhh look at him! The boys love anything like that too that can just be rammed right in to their mouths!

@Fivebyfive2 aw look at him! Ethan has those keys - I stick them in the freezer and he loves them! 😂 Joe looks very happy!

@ELW85 I'm so sorry to see you're struggling today! For what it's worth, if Ethan wakes up and rolling him onto his side doesn't work, I pick him up and rock him back to sleep. Probably against all the rules but it works for us! This will pass though - he will learn to sleep deeply again 😊 I also sing at Ethan haha either You Are My Sunshine or I'm Still Standing! 😂 I also second @MrsEG 's suggestion - fresh air does wonders for knackering babies out! It also does mummy the power of good 😊 we're all here for you, sending virtual handholds!

@MrsEG - no, ask away! I need to try and rationalise stuff when I’m tired and upset so it helps!
It’s that he’s constantly flinging his arms up (Moro isn’t going anywhere it would seem) and having a little whinge then resettling. It’s taking literally pinning him down to resettle him and he’s waking up cryibg which I’d read somewhere was basically because he’s overtired and upset he’s awake.
If I pin him down and get his dummy in, he seems ok. Since we’ve stopped swaddling we’ve gone from able to lay him down awake and he’d fall asleep on his own to lying him down and having to wrestle him to stop him staring at his hands forever.
I know I’m rambling; am I making sense?

@MrsR16 - cross post and thank you! When he came in with me, he was on his side and slept really well but I don’t know how to put him like that in the crib and I’m terrified he’s not ready for it, in case he rolls on his front. As @MrsEG!has said before though, nobody I know sleeps on their back all night so I’m sure he’d love a different position! Thank you for the support ❤️

@ELW85 Ethan put himself on his front last night which he normally hates, but there he stayed all night! Petrified the life out of me, but it really is OK! 😊 Finn will absolutely get there. It's just horrible when you've been used to ok stretches of sleep and then all of a sudden they throw you a curveball! Little monkeys... it's a good job they're so cute - I'm sure it's a survival tactic! You got this!

@MrsR16 - thank you ❤️
I asked my WhatsApp group for advice this morning and felt awful. One of the women has a 11,5 month old who has been screaming and awake since 19:00 yesterday and has had 45 mins of sleep. Nothing at all will get her off. I felt so stupid for being upset once she’d given me that context...

@ELW85 oh goodness don't feel stupid!! We all have our own struggles and what someone struggles with, someone else will breeze it! You are doing an awesome job, don't forget!