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MAY 07 Post natal - This time a year ago it was all just beginning, look at us now...........................

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Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/09/2007 07:43

Morning........

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Lupins71 · 28/09/2007 12:45

LGT - lol at hugs, he is such a charachter (sp) i love hearing his antics, altho glad its not me clearing up puddles of oj

Abbey - i very rarely find anything in the next sales, one year i found loads but never again since

Cam hope you are feeling better soon

Well i have just a busy morning - went to the docs and have been put on prozac wooo hoooo happy pills - my pmt is soooo bad seemed like a good idea, have also been refered to the gynea clinic to discuss sterilation or hysterectomy - anyone know anyone thats had either?? any advice, i would rather have the lot removed tbh got no use for it anymore and in no way shape or form do i want to be pregnant ever ever again, have done a bit of xmas shopping

Off to buy lots of cake from the cake sale at school in a bit for me and dd to munch later, yummmyyy

aprilmeadow · 28/09/2007 14:44

just taken Ella to nursery for her final settling in session before she starts on Monday pm. Have to leave her for 1 hour. She was all smiley to the girls in the room and kept looking at the toys!
Just signing about 20 bits of paper giving permission for this that and the other.

Have a stinking headache and am tired after being up with snotty Ella several times in the night.

Have arranged a meeting with bosses on Monday pm to discuss my decision with regards to work. They are taking me out to lunch, i guess so we are away from the office, feeling sick at the thought of it already. Its not helping that dh has a 'big' con call this pm with the VP of a company that wants to buy one of his companies. This has been dragging on for 6mths and 'we', as in dh and his business partner, have told them no more messing, tel us your figure and we will tell you our answer! Dh has had to go play trains in the garage to take his mind off of it!

LG&T, will pop to post office once i have collected Ella and post Beau's cardi.

AbbyLou · 28/09/2007 16:04

Am it sounds like E will enjoy her Nursery. C goes to a cm but starts Nursery School after Christmas which means he goes every morning and he has to wear a school jumper. My little boy is growing up so fast.
We've just had a lovely afternoon at the local nature reserve. We met a friend from antenatal the first time around with her 2 boys. We went for a walk while the kids all slept and then went in the cafe. They have a Discovery Area for the kids with activities all about nature so they were occupied too. R was an angel as well.

Lupins71 · 28/09/2007 19:39

April hope the meeting went well

aprilmeadow · 28/09/2007 20:32
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Mrsjaffabiffa · 28/09/2007 20:57
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largeginandtonic · 28/09/2007 21:29

Cam stop encouraging him.....

SOH the twins used to love those door bouncer thingies, i put them in a door opposite each other... boing...boing... There first word was 'gigger' meaning 'tigger'

My little sis just phoned me to say her boyfriend has proposed he put the ring in a box of aero chocs cos the shop didnt have a kinder egg Im so happy for them both Can you tell

Cam Beau had sweet potato tonight, he has eaten all the apples

I went to wives club today, it was lovely. I could potentialy have 2 hours child free, howewever i ended up working in the creche so all the other mommies could have 2 hrs off Lovely ickle babies there though, had lots of cuddles Was just like home really >

Nice weekend all xxxx

largeginandtonic · 28/09/2007 21:34

What are you two about???? Hmmmmmmmnnnnn???

cameroonmama · 29/09/2007 08:56
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twelveyeargap · 29/09/2007 15:38

Lupins - would your DH consider having the snip instead? That's a very simple operation, whereas female sterilisation takes a lot of recovery.

Plus, if I were you and you do go down the sterilisation route, consider that if you have a hysterectomy, you're essentially going to go through the menopause. You're a bit young for all that maybe?

Also, if you're depressed and I'm sorry to hear that you are; do you think that now is a good time to be making big decisions like that?

Could you have a coil or IUS fitted for the time being?

A slept from 7.30pm to 8.30am the night before last. Unfortunately I woke up about 5 times wondering when she was going to wake. I've dropped the dream feed because I skipped it the other night (due to being tired and having overdone it on the vino) and she slept through to 4am anyway. I think I may have been actually disturbing her sleep pattern with it. (Something to think about Cam if you're still doing dream feed - it worked for me at first to move her long sleep to after 10pm, but she now seems to sleep better without it.) Last night she did 7 to 4. Can't complain about that. Think she only slept right through on that one night because she was wrecked. I hadn't given her any puree or anything that day, so it's not down to that.

I made up a batch of apple/ rice/ milk combo and tried her yesterday. She loves it. Grabs the spoon and licks it and all that. It's very cute.

Now I just have to work on getting my sorry ass to bed by 10pm so that I can get the benefit of this new sleeping thing.

SOH - I got one of those bouncer things too. A even likes just sort of hanging in it. They're gas. Hope you manage to get looked after at your parents' house and you don't feel judged. I expect they're just worried about you.

Mrsjaffabiffa · 29/09/2007 21:01

hello......

Lupins I agree with tyg, would dh have the snip?

tyg, well done little A on the sleeping. Mummy go to bed!!

lg&t, you are one lovely lady, you have a job and a half at home raising 6 fabby children and when you get the chance to have a few hours out for yourself you end up looking after everyone elses children. definately child mad you are.

Jorja has been a pain in the bum for the last two days. I'm sooooooooo not used to it. She's still sleeping through at night but has gone no more than 3 hrs between feeds in the day and is now screaming the place down when I put her in her cot in the day. last night I thought I'd try her with some baby rice, She was sooooooo not impressed. She screwed her face up, gagged on it, spat it in my face and promptly refused to open her mouth. I gave up and thought I'd try today. haha today she did all of the above and then screamed the place down.
Do you think I should wait a while beore trying again or carry on? I'm happy to up her bottles if thats what she wants.

I went with a friend to her mums this afternoon. Came home with a 10 week kitten called Pebbles (she was already named) otherwise we'd have called her bovril. She and her sister were rescued by friends mum when they were about 2 weeks old. Found in a broken drain pipe abandoned. She's very sweet, still can't stop thinking about Marmite but it's nice to have little paws scatting around again. Harrison was over the moon, Maddie was quite excited but calls her Pettals. lol

Whilst I was out dh decided to "clean" up my laptop. He made me a folder on my hotmail inbox for my facebook e-mails. I thought that was very kind until I noticed he'd named the file Face Ache.

I hope everyone has a lovely Sunday.

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cameroonmama · 29/09/2007 21:38

Evening, great news about the little Pebbles Mrs JB, how lovely for H.

Lups sorry to hear you suffer so dreadfully from PMT that you need Prozac, will sterilisation reduce the symptoms or are there not some alternative hormone therapies that can help you manage it? As the others say, sterilisation is such a huge step..

Well done A and J with your all-bloomin-night sleep fests. I had stopped the dream feeds a while ago and since starting the mush J has only been waking once, at around 4. When I came back after being out last night I decided to dream feed him to see if he would last until 6 ish, but no, he woke at 4 as normal . MrsJB, forget the baby rice and try some apple or carrots, much nicer! Though I have to say that J is not exactly guzzling it all down, more tasting and spitting it out, also I am not too keen on the resulting nappy situations Since we are trying (and failing miserably)to keep up with Beau we tried sweet pots today, so what's next LG&T, you mad-child-and-baby-loving-obsessed woman, broccoli? Actually it can't be anything until I go to Tescos as there is sweet fa left in our house tonight.

I hope you all enjoy your sunday.

Lupins71 · 30/09/2007 09:40

TYG we have talked about him having the snip and its a no way, im not depressed - perfectly happy actually just for 2 weeks before my period i am an evil bitch with horrid mood swings - this has only happened since having Arlen, doc says its just my hormones all over the place - the prozac can sort out my moods and by then (6months) my hormones should been better - apparently its a really good way of doing this and they use it alot. as for sterilisation i was supposed to have it done when i had my section with A but because it all happened a bit early they left it in case there was anything wrong with him, as ive now had 4pg's and am 36 its definatley time to call it a day on the pregnancy front - i dont do it well, i dont enjoy it, i never want to do it again

I dropped A's dream feed about a week ago and he sleeps right through and he doesnt wake starving cos he will happily cooo in his cot for half hour - dont know if i could have done it earlier but i was just too tired one night last week and thought i would just feed him when he woke - but he didnt, havent done one since

Hope you start getting the benefit of good nights sleep soon

MJB she will get the hang of it when she's ready, maybe try once more with some pear or apple or carrot like cam said and if not then leave it and try in a weeks time, awwwww about the kitten they are soooo cute

Cam not sure what the alternatives would be, cant say i have a problem taking pills - i have painkillers everyday for my pancreas so its not like i am a chemical free zone - just alchohol free unfortunatly, i whizzed up arlen a veg medley the other day - carrot, sweet pot, potato, broccoli and cauliflower - but when i served it to him i added in a pear portion to sweeten it - they suggested it in the organix leaflet i got, must say he wolfed it down

have a god day all xxx

SKYTVADDICT · 30/09/2007 10:43

Morning all

All well here. C napping in his cot.

Just sent DP to Tescos with a list including butternut squash. I asked him if he knew what it looked like and he said "swede and is it in the veg section?". Can't wait to see what he comes back with. He has also gone for a box of baby cereal such as apple and banana wake up.

C now going "baby rice" free - i.e. I stopped adding baby rice to everything. He likes the apple and sweet potatoe so far, fingers crossed. His nappy was apparently very smelly though (I have no sense of smell but the DDs thought it hysterical, as not had a smelly nappy like that in 5 months so far!). He is having breakfast and tea as suggested by the HV then will add lunch in about a week or so. He is not that bothered about the tea though and doesn't eat half as much as brekkie.

Hope you are having a nice weekend SOH and congrats on having parents who keep their opinions to themselves. My mum definitely doesn't! Apparently I would feel much better if I got dressed nicely and did my hair, put on make up and jewellery every day etc!!! WTF, it would be nice to have the time.

twelveyeargap · 30/09/2007 14:02

Oh sorry Lupins, that will teach me for not reading stuff properly!

Hmm, DH has said before that he wouldn't have the snip and can't see anything wrong with the fact that his mum had had her tubes tied rather than his dad. I guess it's quite common for men to have the "lose their manhood" misconception. All I can suggest is discuss very carefully what the implications of having a hysterectomy are. I believe that if you have your tubes tied, that there is a possibility that you may need a hysterectomy later, but I don't know about having one "anyway". If you suffer with hormone changes now, I think you should talk with the doctor very carefully about how having your womb removed may affect you. Hope the prozac stops the mood swings soon.

Spoke too soon about the sleeping... She woke at 1 and 5 this morning! Doh. She was doing a weird thing before bed though, suckling and not feeding - I couldn't get her to properly drink. Hopefully tonight will be better again.

I really, really have to start going to bed. Was still up at 1am ffs. Idiot.

She took 50ml of ebm from a bottle just now. Yay! She would have had more, but it's all I had. Hehehe. Going to try her again tomorrow. I got her fresh from a nap and 4 hours from last feed, so really hungry. She didn't mind after the first couple of protests. Nuk wide neck bottle with a latex teat rather than silicone. They're a lot softer, so that might have helped.

largeginandtonic · 30/09/2007 16:15

Hello all

Great news on the kitten MrsJB, bet is um....cat like but small??! Sorry cats are just not my thing, im more of a dog person. Poor you with little J, i would feed her something nice like Cam said and she may gobble it up. Otherwise leave it a week and try again.

TYG mine have all taken the latex teats better than the silicone, B takes the 'closer to nature' bottles and teats no problem though. They too are very soft like the latex. Glad she liked her food too, clever girl. That is what Hugs did when feeding TYG before he threw a complete revolt and spat me out in disgust! Hope she sorts herself out. Now get thee to bed early

Lups hope the prozac sorts you out for now, my mom and the entire girl population in our family all have 'womens troubles'. She had a hysterctomy at 32 after she had my sister (conceived after being sterilised) a lifetime of evil heavy periods. She kept her ovaries as she did not want to go in to early menopause, but she didnt suffer with psychotic moods just the pain and heavy nastiness. I will do the same when im done....

SOH hope you are having a good time, please rest

Cam B has had bananna and some orsnge now too, he just loves his food! I gave him breakfast this morning too as he has woken for 4 nights on the trot at 340-415, hope it makes a difference. The nappies are horrific.

Parents still here, cooking is endless. Lovely to have them though and dh and i managed to goover to Gun Wharf last night for dinner on our own!!!

Must just add, Lups i had no idea you were 36, thought you were younger than me!

twelveyeargap · 30/09/2007 18:27

Ooh, a DATE, LG&T!

My mum has offered to babysit when she's over next week. With A going to at least 1am, I think it will work if we're fairly local and can come home if needed.

I tried those closer to nature bottles, but she wasn't having any of them. I think the flat shape of the Nuk teats seems to help. It's either that or she's just given up protesting!

I am a cat person... DH is allergic though. Boo.

Hey - A rolled from front to back this afternoon. Clever girl. proud mammy She's trying SO hard to go back to front too, but can't get her bottom arm out of the way. She gets really annoyed. She can pivot 360 degrees too. Seems to be the next best thing to propelling herself forward or back.

We got her one of those foam mats which fit together like jigsaw pieces and I think it's helped her. Wooden floors are so slippery; I think they were making life difficult for her.

cameroonmama · 30/09/2007 19:00

Our two are fighting over whether we get a cat or a dog when we get to Nairobi, I have a feeling we shall end up with both .

Well done A for her athletic prowess! Do you think J is the only 4 almost 5 month old who shows no desire to rollover? He just wants to sit (almost on his own) and stand alllllll the time. His brother was the same and walked at 6.5 months, pretty much skipping out the whole crawling and rolling over business. Last night he too woke up at 12.30 then 4, so I think more food is called for, but I'm just not sure when exactly we can squeeze it in? Perhaps at breakfast time? A little mushed banana or some baby cereal perhaps? I still haven't tried the bottle yet...

Did you and dh go and get plastered and out clubbing LG&T? TYG, get yourselves out for a slap up meal while you can

Lups I meant to say I too suffer from dreadful mood swings before my AF, and I tried extract of Starflower which seemed to help a great deal (possibly only having a pyschological effect ) An American friend told me that they can measure your hormone levels and give you a supplement to rebalance them, its not something I have followed up on yet because J came along and seriously unbalanced me but might be worth asking the GP about?

twelveyeargap · 30/09/2007 22:36

FWIW, I was consulting my sleep bible again this evening and the paediatrician was saying that night waking is NOT related to solid food. He says that longer sleep periods are a neurological development. Says that some babies wake one to two times a night for food, until up to around nine months old, after which time they should be able to consume enough calories in a day that hunger does not wake them. The introduction of solids doesn't relate directly to that - apparently.

However, he says that whilst we should feed babies when we know they're hungry (say when it's been four to six hours since last feed); if they wake say, two hours after last feed, then it's most likely a sleep disturbance and going to them just makes the disturbance worse.

He says that if you co-sleep, then babies (and mothers) should be able to feed without the waking being an actual disturbance to sleep, even if it's more frequent than babies who sleep alone. But, that at some point, co-sleeping babies may associate night waking with entertainment or comfort feeding or contact with mum and start waking "deliberately", just in the same way that if you go to (an older - more than about 4 month) baby who is sleeping alone when they don't actually "need" your attention (when wet, dirty or hungry); then they will start to wake more often too.

I suppose you tell the difference by the amount of formula, or the length of time the baby breastfeeds when you go to them at night. If it's a short comfort feed, then you can probably try to drop it.

Also, I was reading again, that babies without a regular nap schedule are overtired at night and so don't sleep properly. I've seen this relate to A that yes, she might sleep heavily where she's not slept enough during the day, but more often; bad sleep during the day means a difficult bedtime and often a waking around an hour after she goes to bed and a late night waking too, because the sleep schedule is disturbed.

MKG · 01/10/2007 03:50

Cruz just rolled from back to front for the first time the other day. unfortuantely he freaks out because he can't get back on his tummy. However I'm still very proud of him because Mateo didn't do it until 6 months so at 4 months I believe that he's just a genius and is extremely gifted

MKG · 01/10/2007 03:53

Sorry, meant to say he can't get back on his back.

MKG · 01/10/2007 04:02

Oh yeah, took Cruz to the doctor the other day for his shots, and his "well baby check". The little bug has gained 4 lbs (now 14lbs 7 oz) and has grown 3 inches (is now 26 inches) It makes me sad to see him get bigger, and it makes me want another baby soon.

juliewoolie · 01/10/2007 11:21

where is everyone...................

largeginandtonic · 01/10/2007 16:34

Woohooo Julie > Are you knocked up yet?

TYG no drinking, we were crap actually and were home by 10 Just ridiculous....

Excellent rolling little A, B is trying but not managed it yet. B is also very cranky if he has not slept well in the day, they have all been like that. Bedtime comes and they are just an overtired mess.

Yay Cruz on the rolling too! How is work going MKG? Do you sell lovely clothes?

Parents gone home, boo hoo. Still at least we can start yelling at the kids again!

Off to do the tea, oh my life is so exciting....

HumptyDumptyWasPushed · 01/10/2007 16:45

He was you know.

It's all just a conspiracy.

I'm with you on the over-tired babies LG&T. My little tinker of a dd has been awake since 6.30am and has just gone down for a nap after a marathon screaming/eye-rubbing/yawning session.

I'm off to have a nap too or I'll be screaming/eye-rubbing/yawning myself before too long.

Will catch up properly anon, just checking in.