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Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/09/2007 07:43

Morning........

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largeginandbloodpunch · 10/10/2007 16:30

Hello ladies

Im still feeling crap despite sitting under the duvet with Hugs for most of the afternoon. B was up in the night alot and has defo been poorly today, moaning, wont settle, feeding often. Poor little thing, he looks pathetic.

I watched the demonic Claire last night too, surely it is child abuse to do that? I mean those little twins were so tiny they must have needed food more frequntly than 4 hours??? Horrific. Was shocked to the core.

Dont ask me any sleep advice, clearly i have lost the plot. Im currently taking refuge in 97%Gingerbread's house behind her fluid covered couch.

MKG · 10/10/2007 17:34

Hello from over here. Well we've had a heat wave, both kids have been sick again, and I hate working (much rather be home with the kids). Cruz has started rolling over in his sleep so he wakes up screaming because he hasn't figured out how to get on his back again. So it's interesting. We're selling our house and trying to buy another and it has been such a head ache. The last few weeks have been a whirlwind and I'm ready for my life to settle.

Bensonbluebird · 10/10/2007 21:58

LG&T - hope you can manage to get some rest over the weekend. If I feel knackered with 2 I can't imagine what it must be like with 6.

Nairobi, yes Aidan is long. The last time I had him measured (13 weeks! bad mummy)he was off the scale. J has the most gorgeous cheeks.

I hear squeaking, may be time for an early feed

Mum2G · 10/10/2007 22:01

Hi all, lovely piccies, had a shi**y day, letting it all get on top of me, need to try and chill! Does anyone else have a very noisy baby? G likes to shout...all the time!Is this normal? and if so will it continue for the next twenty years???

NairobiOrBloodSuckingBats · 10/10/2007 22:44

Mum2 its boys..they all make a lot of noise. DS1 never stops talking, never. J is actually quite quiet until he is on his own then he lets rip

LG&T I hope you get some rest and the babies are soon better.

April, have a fabulous holiday

Bensonbluebird · 11/10/2007 09:05

G- Aidan had a phased of high decibel squeaking all day long about a week ago, he's quietened down now and is concentrating on rolling around and pulling his knees up under him and sticking his bottom in the air. Very entertaining!

Devon - Aidan doesn't have excema but does seem to get dry skin after we have been swimming. He had been wearing a little wet suit but that seems to make it worse. You can get barrier cream for babies with excema to wear in the pool and stop the chlorine getting to their skin.

twelveyeargap · 11/10/2007 09:17

Morning strangers!

A likes to make sounds like Marge Simpson does when she's cross. Mmmmmgggghhhhhhnnnn.

She woke at 11.30 for a feed last night and slept to 6.15! Woo hoo! I think we might be through the growth spurt and the waking three times a night. Yay. 19 weeks today.

Feeding mush is a bit hit and miss. Some days she's mad for it; others she has no interest so I don't push it.

The baptism was lovely. Ceremony was great and the priest told everyone that we were one of the first couples he married in that parish (I didn't know that) and that he's delighted we called him for the baptism. Aww. Got a really gorgeous Irish linen gown for her. The day started out a bit stressful. I'd arranged to pick up the cake from the bakery and the party food from M&S at 11. Sent DH into M&S and I went to get the cake. Cake wasn't finished, went over to M&S to discover half my order hadn't arrived. I nearly cried. Had to race round the store picking up pre-packed sandwiches and whatever else I could find to feed the 35 guests. Gutted as the stuff I'd ordered was pretty much ready to go and what I ended up with needed some prep. They were very good about it and refunded us for everything that didn't come and gave us the replacement stuff complimentary. All in all, the food cost about £60! So it wasn't all bad... Got caught in the Arsenal traffic on the way back though and was the last to arrive home. Fortunately my friend from down the road got back first and had a spare key and saved the day by preparing all the food for me.

LG&T - Hope you're feeling better today.

I have managed to skim most of the stuff I missed, but I've already forgotten half of what I meant to reply to, sorry.

Oh HDWP - I heard Show of Hands on Radio 2 at the Cambridge Festival and they were great. It was only at the end that I heard the name of the band. Thoroughly enjoyed it. And the sleep thing... I concur that if you get the first nap of the morning cracked then the rest of the day is much easier. I know you're not a fan of routine per se, but once M knows what to expect; say, that naps are two hours from last waking (or earlier if she starts zoning out like you mentioned) and that lets say, you put her grobag on for each nap, or close the curtains or whatever, then she'll get used to what's expected of her. It's not that she necessarily needs it to be dark - it's just a sleep signal.

I always say that I don't watch "Daytime Television"... Do you think series-linking the old episodes of Frasier and watching them back to back counts as daytime telly?

Scoot says hi. Days and days ago that was, sorry. She's no internet or telly at the moment.

Need to get back to my laundry soon. I've had 7 people staying. Mum and partner for five days, PIL for one night on Saturday, then DH's aunt and uncle and his cousin on Sunday. ALL my sheets and towels were used so the washing machine has been earning its keep.

juliewoolie · 11/10/2007 09:42

Morning everyone.

I feel like poo - heaache, sore throat and feels sick

On a brighter note A rolled over last night and is now doing it all the time only prob he has not figured out how to get back again - cue lots of shouting.

LG&T hope you and yours feel better soon.

Hi MKG moving house is such a pain - good luck.

The babes who are shouting I do think its a boy thing A is now so loud with his noises that I get asked in the supermarket if he is ok. Am sure he is just gearing up for the rest of his life emmbarising me in public. Little does he know I have stashed several items to use as blackmail when he brings his first girlfriend or boyfriend (I'm openminded ) home.

juliewoolie · 11/10/2007 09:44

obviously I have lost all ability to spell

97PercentGingerbread · 11/10/2007 11:24

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M finds this noise repeated at speed hilarious. Am checking to see if it has the same effect on you lot.

Naps still working well, had a glitch yesterday when she hadn't had a long enough overnight sleep and by 10am was in full scale meltdown. Eventually settled and slept for 2hrs and we were back to normal. TYG, you're right it is NOT a routine, not my style . It's necessary to keep her happy and functioning and she naps when she's ready not when I am so I guess it's still baby-led.

Have every item of clothing M owns piled on the sofa. Tis a veritable mountain. I'm sorting out. Anything under 9 months no longer fits. Crazy.

M can do a super Marge Simpson impression when cross. It's half grunt, half growl. She also shouts all the time. At anything. Or nothing. She isn't fussy.

97PercentGingerbread · 11/10/2007 11:27

Also meant to ask something I've been pondering for 5 months:

Are contractions more painful after your waters have broken? My waters breaking started labour so never had a contraction with intact membranes. Wondering if that's why it was painful from the first contraction. Didn't get that gradual build up all the books lie about. Wondering if next time might be different in oh so many ways...

Mum2G · 11/10/2007 11:37

Blimmin eck soh how did you have the patience to type that over and over

i definately think the pain stepped up a few gears when my waters broke - contractions started 4 in afternoon - and waters broke about 2 am next morning - bubba came at 10am.

Are you feelng broody??

Mum2G · 11/10/2007 11:42

TYG - Fab gown, love the hat too! We need a piccy of A in it.

largeginandbloodpunch · 11/10/2007 12:15
Pinkjenny · 11/10/2007 17:44

We came home from Centerparcs after 24 hours. And the rash is back. I think its fair to say its been a bad week.

AbbyLou · 11/10/2007 18:34

PJ What happened at CP? Was it the rash that brought you home or did you have a bad experience there?
LG&T Hugs to you about Hugs going. Hopefully the 2 weeks will fly by and he'll be back drawing on your walls in no time!
Well I survived my first return to work day today. It was ok but I have a banging headache now. It was nice to see all my old class, new one leaves a lot to be desired though. Think I might be seen as the wicked witch when I start back proper on Monday. It was hard to leave R but cm said she was an angel and I know she'll love it there.

largeginandbloodpunch · 11/10/2007 18:56

Poor you PJ what happened?

Glad it was ok back at work Abby, sure R was just fine

juliewoolie · 11/10/2007 19:41

PJ are you ok love?

Well done on going back to work A just think when you get back after 1/2 term you will be able to whip them all into shape and have the perfect class within weeks.

LG&T hope you are feeling better I had a restorative nurofen and feel loads better sick thing not preg took a test the other day and it was negative.

Been doing ironing all day how come my DP manages to wear soo many shirts and why does he insist on wearing double cuff shirts from Thomas Pink why cant he just go to M & S and get some easy iron ones.

TYG lovely to see you back - sounds like you managed to avert disaster and had a lovely day. What happened with your priest I remember you saying there was some kerfuffle about having A baptised at your church?

DP out for thirsty thursday so just ordered a massive pizza and am going to scoff the lot myself.

97PercentGingerbread · 11/10/2007 19:49

You ok PJ?

LG&T, M's head was right on my cervix from 3cm. Her head was about an inch from being in this world for the second stage but she was well and truly stuck on account of trying to come out ear first with twisted shoulders. I'm wondering if because my waters broke before labour started, her head was forced into the wrong position from the very beginning. It was a very forceful gush. And she was well and truly stuck, surgeon couldn't pull her out or push her back up even a centimetre. I am always going to wonder what went wrong.

DH cooking chilli, M fast asleep, all is well in the world...

97PercentGingerbread · 11/10/2007 19:54

Oh and get thee back behind my sofa lady. I have cake and earl grey for you. Can I offer you a warm duvet and selection of chocolate for later?

Pinkjenny · 12/10/2007 08:27

Morning all - sorry to post something so sombre and then not elaborate!

We arrived at Centerparcs at 3.30pm on Monday to the pouring rain. We had been advised to book a 'Lakeside Apartment', but when we got into the room, it was no bigger (probably smaller) than a Travelodge room. We could touch the double bed and the cot with our foot from the couch. Cue lots of crying from me to Guest Services who finally agreed to move us to a normal lodge. L fell asleep and had to be carried to the lodge while dh packed up the car at 7pm. L woke every twenty minutes in the night, dh fell asleep at 9pm. Cue lots more frustrated crying from me. Centerparcs is built around a fantastic swimming experience (for those who haven't been) and don't get me wrong, its great. But with a tiny baby and all the crap that you have to cart around, a nightmare. L loved the pool, but only stayed in for 20 minutes, got out, started pooing, needed to go back to the dressing rooms to change her, crying then cos she was tired. Nowhere to sit her down in the pool area. Dh and I couldn't do any of the activities on our own (i.e. water slides etc), so we decided to get dressed and go for a walk. L was screaming by the time we dressed her and then promptly fell asleep in her pram. Got outside, me with soaking wet hair, and the heavens opened. L woke up, was crying so hard that there was condensation on her rain cover and we couldn't see her through it!

Traipsed back to the lodge, where it was only 1.15pm. By 4.30pm, dh turned and said to me, we could be home by 7. So we packed up and came home. On reflection, I think Centerparcs is great if you get the weather and there are a few of you, but quite isolating when there are only two of you, unless you're happy to put your baby in the kids club and use the babysitting service, which I am not yet. Its brilliant for older kids, and I loved it when I was younger. We're going again in February, albeit with lots of family to help out!

Nightmare.

Waste of money. Which always goes down so well with dh.

We're hoping to go to a villa next year with the whole family, which will bring its own challenges, but should be much better.

L then woke up yesterday morning, to be covered in the goddamn rash again. She's still covered now, head to toe, despite having already had the number of doses of Piriton she'd had last time. A & E have told me to give her another dose tonight, and if its still there tomorow, take her back in. So far its been a virus, bites, an allergic reaction, and a contact rash.

My money is on a virus. We haven't done anything differently at all, and its under and on the outside of her babygro. I think its a virus that didn't leave her system last time.

Plus she hasn't pooed for two days, which won't be helping. And she's started shouting all the time, much in the way an adult would if they'd had a really bad day at work.

So all in all, a horrendous and stressful week. My mum is off work next week and I can't wait. That's my silver lining.

OK, maybe that last sentence was a touch melodramatic.

97PercentGingerbread · 12/10/2007 09:00

Aw PJ, poor you.

Sorry gotta be quick, M needs feeding. Just wanted to say that when M had the virus a couple of weeks ago that landed her in hospital, the GP advised that it stays in the system for weeks- and he emphasised that it was lots of weeks sometimes- and can increase in severity again. You just assume it's a new virus but it's the same old monster. Same with adults and colds. You think you've had a run of lots of colds but it's the same one essentially which doesn't leave your system. Each flare up in a baby according to him can last anything up to 2 weeks.

Sorry you're having a hard time of late.

Pinkjenny · 12/10/2007 09:09

Thanks SOH - you'll always be SOH to me. Its a nightmare. Well not really a nightmare. She's done a poo, which is something.

madeindevon2 · 12/10/2007 10:13

sry to hear about centreparks. dont blame you for coming home. i would have done the same. everything is ten times more difficult with a baby!?

i think i have "allowed" freddie to get into bad habits. surely its all my fault. when he was ill with chicken pox i broke all the "rules". fed him whenever he wanted it. he slept in our bed for 2 nights.
now he wont sleep more than 4 hrs and normally its only 3 at a push.
pls pls pls let me have more than 2.5 sleep at once pls pls pls
thats all i want
ive even given him some babymush the last 2 days about 5pm to see if that helps. (dp urged me to try)
last night
5pm baby rice
6.15 bath
6.30 8 oz bottle and bed
10.15 awake. another bottle. only managed 5oz before falling asleep
11.45 dh comes home. telling me how much he loves me bla bla. have to tell him to shut up so i can get some sleep (not like me at all....)
12.50 freddie awake again crying. tried dummy, tried giving cooled boiled water, tried cuddle. tried leaving for 15 mins. nothing worked. ended up bfeeding him.back to bed about 1.30
4.15 awake again.....tired and frankly psed off. just put him on the boob.
6.30 awake again but not crying. left him til 7 then topped up again on the boob
stayed in bed til 8.30. (freddie too) think we both slept from 7 til 8.30

there are many many things im sure im doing wrong
pls feel free to advice me coz im feeling bad and feel like im losing patience and that in itself makes me feel worse too.

twelveyeargap · 12/10/2007 10:29

PJ - Complete nightmare. Good idea to come home. It would have been an even bigger waste of time than money if you'd stayed. Better to cut your losses.

Sorry to hear the rash is back. Does it bother her? Is it itchy or anything?

MID - It's not unusual for babies to get out of their routine when they're sick or have been on holiday. When A did that after our holiday, I just stuck rigidly to the bedtime routine and absolutely did not take her into my bed, even if it meant getting up to her 5 times in the night. It only took a couple of nights to get her back to staying asleep for longer in her cot. Try feeding Freddie up in the daytime as well - that will help him go longer at night. Once he sleeps longer at night, he should be hungrier in the morning and have bigger feeds in the day and leave longer between those.

Julie - yes I did have trouble with my local church. We asked the priest who married us to do the ceremony at his parish instead.