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dal21 · 17/09/2007 08:26

Hi ladies - cannot see a thread for the sept ladies who have popped. Thought I would start one (hope I havent been totally blind and missed one already set up)

we can share our trials and tribulations of our LO's here!

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Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
MrsFish · 07/11/2007 07:47

We'll be giving Ben the full jabs as and when. Sam had them all too. There is no factual evidence that there is anything wrong with it

Nicki10 · 07/11/2007 09:51

Morning All

I have just signed up for baby yoga which starts tomorrow so I'm very excited about that!. I'm not sure how Poppy's going to cope with it because it's right in the middle of her feed time.

I also want to start power pramming but it clashes with baby yoga, oh the dilemmas!. Has anybody tried power pramming?.

kinki · 07/11/2007 10:21

Morning everyone! It was my anniversary yesterday and I'm very excited to say Liam gave me 2 special presents. Bearing in mind he usually feeds every 2 or 3 hours, last night he fed at 10, then didn't wake till gone 5am! And then after I fed him, dh took him downstairs so I could sleep in peace. That's a first for me. I feel so rested and vaguely human for once. And that's despite ds2 getting up twice in the night (he never usually gets up, so why last night I don't know) and me waking with a leg cramp (hasn't happened since I was pregnant). Funny all that should happen the first night Liam has a long stretch, but it doesn't matter, I still feel rested.

And then this morning for my 2nd present LIAM SMILED . Of course the little teaser did it for his dad and not me and immediately stuck his lip out when I came into view. But he definately smiled. I was supposed to have taken him back to the doctors by now about it as he's over 10 weeks old, but didn't want to. Glad I waited now. He had another osteo appt yesterday, and I think whatever it is they are doing to him it is beginning to work, he is definately a happier little boy.

Hammer, I missed your news about the dt's birthday - I hope you all had a lovely day. I'm a twin and sharing my birthday with my brother really is the best part of being a twin for me. Oh and btw, potty training isn't going too well this end. But I think that's more to do with me rather than Ryan - I either just don't have the energy to stick with it or we're out and about doing stuff so I let it lapse. I guess I need a few days with no distractions for us. How's it going for you. It must literally be twice as hard for you!

Chatty, sorry can't help with the umbilical hernia. I would be hopeless with that as I have a major belly button phobia - I can't even look at a regular belly button, never mind one with a hernia. Good idea to get it checked out at clinic.

Dal, just a thought, if you wanted some more information about the immunisations, I would imagine they have been hotly debated on old threads, so it could be worth doing a search.

I have a question for mums of older dc, well in fact its for everyone who thinks they can help. Ds1 is 7 and to start with he coped extremely well having a new baby in the house. But the last few weeks his behaviour has really gone downhill. He's very angry, stroppy, moody and rude. Anyone else experiencing this or know how to deal with it? Or how long its likely to continue? A lot of his anger is directed at me, which is so unlike him. I'm sure its a reaction to the new baby, but I don't know how to handle it. Any tips anyone?

Hopeitwontbebig · 07/11/2007 11:44

Just grabbing a moment to drop in and say hi.

PLP, wishing little Cerys the very best for her operation. I'm thinking of you.

kinki, glad to hear Liam is smiling

I took Niamh to the doctor last wk because she has conjunctivitis, also I queried whether she had reflux (silent) because she is quite unsettled during the day and especially unhappy in the evenings. What made me think it was reflux was the 'cottage cheese' she brings up when she burps, it obviously tastes horrid by the look on her face. She's been prescribed baby Gaviscon which seems to be helping loads.

I'm mostly ok, still taking each day as it comes, bit up and down from one hour to the next really. But I think on the whole I'm heading in the right direction.

We're still waiting for help with aids to help DH do things with Niamh. Hopefully we'll see a specialist in a few weeks, we've been referred to a department that deals mainly with amputees, fingers crossed they'll be able to help.

Hopeitwontbebig · 07/11/2007 11:49

Kinki, sorry DS1 is being like this. My best advice would be to ignore it as best you can and give him as much praise and attention as you can when he's being nice and tell him you love him. I'm sure you're doing all this already so tell me to shut up! Just wanted to give you a virtual hug and a virtual stroke on your head and give your confidence a boost, you're fab fab fab.

kinki · 07/11/2007 12:00

Thank you so much hopey. On my last post I nearly put out an appeal for you as I know you have older ones, but didn't want to put pressure on you. I do try the strategy you descibe, but it is hard to be nice to him/ignore him when he is being naughty/aggressive etc. Perseverance and consistancy I suppose.

Its good that you're heading in the right direction. Three steps forward, then two back is still one in the right direction. Good luck with the gaviscon for Niamh, hope it makes a difference for her. xx

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fettleandbabyfettle · 07/11/2007 12:25

Hi all

I've been neglecting you all - I'm so sorry. Been a hard few days recently, but didn't want to bring the thread down, as I know there are people on here with real problems. Toby has been diagnosed with reflux and the gaviscon does seem to be helping a bit, but he basically won't feed during the day and evening, without screaming - which is pretty draining. Having got a score of 1/30 for my PND questionnaire at the 6 week check with HV, spent the next 2 days in floods of tears all day, but at GP's 6 week check, he said I wouldn't be normal if I didn't have days like that which makes me feel a bit better! In between screaming, all he seems to do is sleep - I'm hoping he is just a sleepy baby and it is nothing else! his jaundice is at last subsiding - he even looks a bit pale now!!

Sorry haven't got time to respond to everyone and only had a brief skim, but what I can remember....

PLP - been thinking about you lots and lots - sorry to hear about Cerys heart op. I know you won't get this message, but I'll pray for you both. Take care.xxx

Kinki - congratulations on the smile!!! It is so heart-melting isn't it. Although Toby has been seen to smile, he doesn't very often yet, due to his pain, but hopefully in the weeks to come!

Dal - MMR - the main reports of autism have now been shown to have been untrue, so we're going ahead with it. I did have a serious febrile fit after my single whooping cough injection when I was 18 months, which set me back about 6 months developmentally (had to relearn to walk etc - no long-term effects though), but they think I might have had mumps at the time of the injection. either way, I'm nervous around the injections, but will still be having them for both DC as it is best for them - the diseases are pretty horrid to have.

Chattyhan - Toby has quite a bad looking umblicial hernia as well. Both HV and GP said to just ignore it for the time-being. Not quite sure when we are supposed to stop ignoring it, as it looks pretty horrible. Doesn't seem to cause him much pain, but @i'm sure he shouldn't have it forever. Maybe they recede by themselves over time? Let me know if you find out anything more?

Hopey - glad to hear you are feeling better. Big hugs. Hope the gaviscon works as well for you as it seems to for Toby (most of the time!)

big hugs and waves to everyone else - have to go get DD now - feel so sorry for toby always seems to be put in pram or car to shuttle DD around somewhere, but I suppose that is the joy of being DC2!!

Take care all
xxx

Chattyhan · 07/11/2007 12:57

hi all will catch up properly later as have screaming baby and toddler wants lunch! but i had a text from plp!

Cerys came off the ventilator during the night which is great as she was really struggling with it! She was due to be moved back onto the ward late this morning.

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amyclaramum · 07/11/2007 13:26

Hi everyone - hope you're having a good day ?

Chatty - great news from PLP - send her our love won't you ?
Re bf in public - normally I'm ok if I'm with someone else but I was on my own with Eloise and also not wearing a very drapey top so just felt a bit embarassed by my flabby tummy being on show as well as boobs !!

Kinki - happy anniversary ! Great news about the from Liam ! Re the 7 yr old it might be an age thing - my 8 yr old DD is getting a bit stroppy and moody - roll on the teenage years . Have you tried to spend time just with him doing something - its easier said then done but maybe he just wants some attention from you ? and like Hopey said loads of praise when he's being good !
I took Eloise to Osteopath yesterday as she has been so unsettled in the evenings and also seems to always turn her head to one side - probably as so squashed up inside me being transverse . Can't see any improvement yet! Glad its helping Liam.

Toadstool - glad the move went well !

dal21 - we have had all the immunisations and will be doing the same with Eloise. She has had the first lot( and it is a bit scary to see 2 needle loads going into them) but she went back to sleep after them and didn't react at all. DD2 was born in Germany so had her immunisations there and there was just no question over the MMR - when I mentioned it to the Doctor he just said it was British media's fault for scare mongering !
got to go - she's woken up !

Hopeitwontbebig · 07/11/2007 13:46

That's great news about Cerys Hope you're bearing up ok , sounds like DD1 is struggling with all this stress, hope she's ok x

kinki, just read your last post, don't you worry about asking me anything, it gives me focus if I can help someone. I had awful problems with DS1 at that age, he was very aggressive and impulsive, I often got called in to speak to his teacher. I tried loads of strategies, I found the best way to deal with him was to use the '3 strikes, you're out' method. There's a FANTASTIC book called 1-2-3 magic, it helped enormously. Basically, you say
warning 1-don't do that
warning 2-if you do that again ..(consequence)
3 - consequence

The overriding thing is to keep calm (in an ideal world eh!), I have completely lost it with DS1 many times!!! Sadly my DS1 has suffered the oldest child syndrome and I have made all my mistakes with him and learnt what works and what doesn't, I've handled DS2 very differently, but then they are quite different children, in fact they're chalk and cheese.

A fantastic friend of mine who has studied psychology, including child, said that quite often the child that is acting aggressively is actually crying out for a hug. Maybe that's where the 'hug a hoody' philosophy came from

Blimey I'm waffling. I hope this post helps and I'm not being...... I can't think of the word!

Right I'm going to shut up now! Hugs x x

kyala · 07/11/2007 14:25

Afternoon all, wont be on for long, DD1's been in bed for 2 hours now so she'll be waking soon!

Anywho, just in response to the bit about jabs, I haven't really had much of a choice with the MMR, as we couldn't afford the separate one's (also, I vaguely remember the HV saying the they didn't even stock them separately any more and that we'd have to go abroad or something, she may have been fibbing, or I might've dreamt it LOL) and DH wanted her vaccinated so it had to be the all in one, and it'll probably be the same this time round too

Not a lot else has been going on here today, went to Tot's group and DD1 had a great time and was so well behaved, so I'm going to reward her and she can get the crayons out after lunch!
Lucy's asleep, after being awake for most of Tot's group and went 4 1/2 hours this morning before she even started to fuss for a feed, must've been the excitement!

That's all folks
xxx

MrsBumblebee · 07/11/2007 15:34

Hi everyone. Paul's having a bit of a snooze, so I thought I'd come on here for a chat.

PLP, fantastic news that Cerys is off her ventilator already - sounds like she's doing great . Big hugs to you, and hope her recovery continues apace.

Dal, yes, we'll be having all the jabs too. I used to do a fair bit of work with the Dept of Health, including on immunisation (only communications stuff, I'm no medic!), and I was totally convinced having talked to their scientists that there's no risk. I remember one guy saying that the problem the DoH have is that, in science, it's impossible to prove a negative - ie you can't prove that MMR doesn't cause autism until you can prove what does cause autism. So he said that even though the scientific community is totally convinced there's no risk, they can't prove it. As for the five in one jab, I was also told that babies' immune systems could cope with something like 2,000 simultaneous vaccines before they have a problem, so I'm going for it. Still, it doesn't stop me being nervous about Paul will react to them all, of course!

Dal again, on the bleeding thing, I've still got bleeding that sounds like yours (if not slightly heavier) at six and a half weeks. MW said that anything up to six weeks is normal, but GP said that as long as it's gradually getting lighter, and there's no pain, it's no problem if it goes on longer than that. She did a swab anyway just to check for infection, but I got the feeling she thought it was no problem at all. It's weird, I never had heavy periods, so I thought it would stop really quickly, but apparently not!

Hopey, so glad things seem to be getting better for you. Sounds like you're doing a fantastic job.

Fettle (and Hopey), sorry to hear about the screaming. Paul does just the same thing - screaming during/after a feed. I can usually distract him after a few minutes, but it gets very wearing because he needs constant attention to prevent him crying. He sleeps very lightly as well, because I think he has tummy pains which make him twitch and squirm, and often wake him up at night (as well as keeping me awake ). I thought it might be reflux, but we tried Gaviscon and it made no difference. Also, the other symptoms don't seem to fit - he used to hate lying on his back, for example, but he seems to love it now. I think he's probably just got an immature tummy/bowel and needs a bit of time to settle down, but it's very frustrating. He also seems to have a huge amount of wind, some of which I can bring up through burping him, but most of it stays in his tummy and comes out through his bum! I'm going to ask the HV about it again next time I see her. Anyway, really sorry you're finding it tough going. I have been too, so I really sympathise - big hugs . And please don't feel you can't come on here to sound off - I certainly have been !

Kinki, so glad to hear about Liam's smile !! If he's anything like Paul, he'll start with just the occasional one, usually for anyone other than mummy , but suddenly he'll be doing them all the time.

Nicki, I haven't got myself organised enough to do any sort of classes yet, and I'm so impressed that other people do. Sounds fab, though. I did a couple of sit-ups yesterday because I'm fed up with my flabby tummy, but then I poked my stomach and noticed that the muscles haven't knitted together yet. I'm not sure you're supposed to do sit-ups until they have - I certainly feel a bit sore this morning. Oops .

Chatty, I don't know about the hernia thing, I'm afraid, but it sounds reassuring that the doctor doesn't think you need to do anything about it yet.

Well, no other news from us, really. DH starts another week of paternity leave tomorrow, which I'm really looking forward to. Mum and MIL have been wonderful, but it will be nice to have the house to ourselves again. I'm looking forward to spending Paul's naps slumped in front of Spooks rather than making friendly conversation . And the GP put me back on the Pill at my 6 wk check, so you never know...!

Phew, I think that was my longest ever post. Hope I haven't missed anyone out. Hugs to everyone.

kinki · 07/11/2007 16:26

Mrs B, I have to ask. You weren't at a little girl's birthday party last Saturday afternoon were you? It's just reading your post got me thinking. I remember you're in Kent like me, and I know your ds is Paul and you just posted that he is 6.5 weeks old. It's just that I cuddled the most gorgeous little baby called Paul on Sat who was 6wks old. I looked at your picture on your profile and this baby's mum looks like you. Long shot and very improbable, but thought I'd ask anyway . If it was you, I was the other one with the baby and the mouthy 7 and 2 yo. Dh (also a Paul) was the one brandishing a lethal broom with intent, at the end of the party.

sabi10 · 07/11/2007 16:54

hi guys,
i know its late in the day but i was hoping you don't mind me joining in. Need some new mum mates. My dh and i have a ds who is 7 weeks old. My normal freinds are still all piss heads and dont have babies yet(even though im 30 odd) . Feeling bit out of baby circles as we live in manchester but have had to live with the inlaws since before the babe came along because of work being done on our house. havent really joined any m and b groups at the inlaws as we will be moving back soon.
Ds Adam is a lovely and after lots of problems with bf is now fully ff(still feel abit shit about that but gave it my best so am almost over the guilt).
My Hv is pushy pushy and making me abit paranoid.Was so shuffed adam started smiling a week ago as she has been asking me since he was 3 weeks old "is he smiling yet?". anyway her recent thing to nag about is tummy time. Adam hates it so only do it for about 5 mins a day(if i remember)but the hv was going on about how i need to do it for at leaset 20mins. What are you guys doing and how do you get the little ones to not cry?
anyways hope to chat soon and get to know you all better. xx sabi

MrsBumblebee · 07/11/2007 17:20

Kinki, that's so weird! It wasn't me, but sounds like my twin (evil or otherwise ). I'm down near Tonbridge - whereabouts are you?

Welcome Sabi, good to have you on board. Sympathies about the bfing - I was really gutted to stop too (at five and a half weeks), but I'm also coming to terms with it (though I still really miss it, even though it hurt like hell ). I'm also struggling with tummy time. My DS is grumpy so much of the time (lots of colicky crying, as you'll know if you've read any of my earlier whingy posts!!), so the last thing I want to do when he's cheerful is piss him off by lying him on his stomach. I also tend to completely forget - along with all the things I'm supposed to be remembering to do, like pelvic floor exercises. Your HV sounds like a cow. Lots of others on here have got annoying HVs as well, so you're in good company!

I'm just about to post my new favourite photo of Paul on my profile by the way, if anyone's interested. Would love to see some new photos of other LOs. (I took loads in hospital, but things have been so hectic that I've only just started taking them again!)

MMooMar · 07/11/2007 17:39

Hi Guys,

Hope everyone is ok.
Sorry I havent been around for ages and I have to admit to skimming through the posts as well.

First of all my thoughts go out to you Sophus,I am so sorry to hear about your mom,I hope you are managing to cope with everything.

PLP, my thoughts are also with you and your family hope the little one is doing well.

I shall do a a few short posts as the computer keeps crashing lately so it will just save me typing it all again,so bear with me on it.

MMooMar · 07/11/2007 17:48

Anyway dont seem to have much time to myself just like the rest of you,DP is snowed under with work so I seem to be doing everything myself.Just started to do the christmas present shopping too but not really getting into it though but I think alot will be done online this year.

Ohh ,have to tell you that we did finally decide on a name and that was LUKAS BLAKE,yes and spelt with a K just to be difficult.He is doing really well and is just beautiful,he is over a stone in weight now and I just want munch him all day.He he very snuffly today though,think he has caught DS1s murderous cough and cold.DP and I have got bad throats too so that will be fun if were all bad as well.
Just gonna post this bit just in case,hang on a mo.....

MMooMar · 07/11/2007 18:06

Just a brief note on my mum some may remember that she has cancer in her one kidney and in an artery in the heart,she has not had the op yet and they have now decided to try and get her a drug that would shrink the cancer down as the op would be a real major one involving opening up the rib cage then loads of time in intensive care if she made it out the other side if they operate on the cancer as it is.So we have everything crossed on getting the drug.

One thing bothering me at the moment is that Christmas day is normally spent at my parents but this year with DS1 being older and will want to play with his toys and stuff and also now having Lukas we have decided to have our first christmas at home as a family.DP and I have never had a christmas day in our own home but I dont know if it is the right thing to do this year to be honest.

Anyway back to baby ,Still BFing, but my one boob is always huge I dont remember that happening the first time round.It is really noticable as well.Lukas dont mind though even with his tongue tie which I am not having done as DS1 also has one and he is fine.I dont remember changing so many dirty nappies either ,my god!

Welcome Sabi10,My LO bloody hates tummy time too,I dont do it,but I dont put him down that much to get a flat head anyway and he is starting to hold his head up fine without it, so bugger the HV`s ( I dont go to mine anyway they are just nosy busybodies).

Ohh by the way,missed my 6 week check,forgot to book it ,dont suppose it matters much though.
Got to go guy LO has woke from his slumbers and is demanding a feed.Will hopfully be able to get on tomorrow without it crashing.....i`m sure its DS1 keep messing with the bloody thing.

Love and hugs to all you guys,
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MMooMar · 07/11/2007 18:12

Quick message to Chatty ,
DS1 had a hernia and they just left it alone.They said they never bother with them as long as ,one, it will push back in freely and two,as long as they are gone by age two.
DS`s was gone in a few months and looks no different to any other kids now ,just normal.
Really got to go .
Bye
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fettleandbabyfettle · 07/11/2007 18:26

Great news about Cerys - poor PLP, I can't imagine how awful all this must be. I hope she knows that we are all thinking of her.

MrsBumble - thanks for the words of support - your LO sounds very like Toby. I hate to admit that I've resorted to a dummy, but it seems to soothe him. I've always been really anti them, not sure why and DD never had/took one. Anyway, he takes it easily and is happily dozing in his chair sucking it as I type - makes a big change from 15 mins ago when he was screaming again. So looks like I'll have to deal with my dummy-demons!! Someone told me to think of it as a pacifier or soother, as that is technically what it is doing and sounds better!

MmooMar - great name! Lukas with a K! Thanks for the reassurance re hernia's as well - toby's does push in easily, so hopefully that good-ish!

got to go - dummy fallen out and crying started again!!!
xxx

canadianmum · 07/11/2007 19:08

Hello all, you probably don't even remember me since it has been so long since I posted, but my DD Anna is 7 weeks today. Things have been pretty hectic, we had a 2 week half term with relatives visiting from Canada. Then my best friend came over with her 5yo for 10 days. Unfortunately she brought us a special present of scarlet fever which both my boys (twins - almost 5) got just before school re-opened. So they were off school for 3 days and are still on antibiotics. Luckily no on else in the family, including Anna, got it. They were very poorly for about 2 days each and then recovered quickly.

Anna is gorgeous , almost 10 lbs. Her days are all over the place, no routine at all but she sleeps well at night. The last few nights she has gone from 11-6 which is lovely. Our evenings were quite tricky as she was a bit colicky but she is definitely getting better.

Anyway, enough about us.........

I have only managed to read the last 20 or so posts so apologies for missing anything major but here goes:

Dal - I did single jab for measles and then got round to reading all the MMR docs and decided it was safe enough for me so my boys had MMR at pre-school booster time. This time I plan to do all the standard jabs for Anna. My only advice would be to read as much as you can and make sure you know the risks of not vaccinating.

kinki - One of my boys sounds just like your DS, moody is the perfect word. It is like he has permanent PMT - very frustrating and very hard on the whole family as neither I nor DH have enough patience for him at the moment. No solutions here, just lots of sympathy......

re: HV's and tummy time - Anna hates being on her tummy and I refuse to force her to do it. When it comes to HVs and their silly advice I just nod and smile........and then ignore. Similar to how I react to my MIL really !!

Chattyhan · 07/11/2007 21:35

Toadstool - i'm glad my memory seems to be recovering! I'm south of reading just over the M3 in fleet.

Dal - i stopped bleeding completely by my 6 week check both times and was very light stop start for a couple of weeks before that - not sure what the norm is?

Kinki - i'm so pleased liam smiled for you! I can sympathise with you on the potty training or lack of it and a stroppy child! With the potty training i've decided it really isn't going to matter if it takes a little bit longer he is also being a real pain at times and the only advice i can offer is to involve them as much as possible and not let them feel ignored. I try to say i do want to see what he wants to show me but i need to finish sorting the baby first rather than snapping 'not now'!

HIWBB - DS1 had silent reflux and infant gaviscon i hope niamh settles soon - glad you're doing better

Fettle - i hope toby's reflux eases soon if it helps i've heard they tend to grow out of it very quickly my ds1 was vastly improved at 3 months!

amyclaramum - i will send everyones love to plp and re bf in public - i had an amusing moment in the tesco cafe this morning when bf. because the chairs were so close to the next table i sat in a corner at an angle it was only after latching him on that i looked up and realised far from being discreet i was facing the entire restaurant! I felt like i was on a stage!

welcome sabi10! My ds1 hated being on his tummy and alex doesn't like it much either so i don't do it very often! Ds1 doesn't seem to have suffered because of it! I wouldn't bother too much if it upsets lo a couple of times a week is probably fine!

Mmoomar - i love the name! best wishes to your mum and i hope the drug works!

Canadianmum - Hi, i'm glad the boys are better and well done to Anna on her nights!

Well it has taken me about 4 hrs to do this post! All that's left to say is thanks to all those who gave advice about the hernia!

dal21 · 08/11/2007 07:20

Hi popping on real quick, dont have time to read posts.

Have appt with GP tonight, who I will ask about the bleeding and also is running through all vaccination options. I am 99.9% sure am getting all standard ones. One of my very good friends did her phd on the vaccinations and she is scarily clever. She recommended that her nieces/ nephews got the jabs, so her recommendation is pretty much good for me.

well I hope ryan has turned a corner. went 7 1/2 hours after his dreamfeed last night! he woke a fair few times and there was a real battle of wills at 1am where he really wanted to be picked up and I refused too - putting dummy in, patting him and shushing him. after 30 mins he gave up the battle and settled. needed to go back around another 4/5 times to shush him - but each time was much quicker. eventually fed him at 5.30 and he went back down straightaway! I have showered, expressed, done chores and had brekkie in peace! Am about to go wake him though.

I pray sooo hard that it only gets better from here on in.

Have fab weekends all - am heading off to my mums, so if he is grizzly after immunisations - she can look after him.

. catch up soon
xx

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