Septermber 07 poppers.....please meet here!

[dal21]

Hi ladies - cannot see a thread for the sept ladies who have popped. Thought I would start one (hope I havent been totally blind and missed one already set up)

we can share our trials and tribulations of our LO's here!

Hi dal, I wasn't sure whether to start one or not. I didn't want the ladies still waiting to pop to feel left out, but on the other hand I didn't want to go on too much about Liam on the other thread for basically the same reason. If people start posting here I'll probably keep flitting between the two.

After the worrying times you had before, it sounds like you had a positive birth experience with little Ryan. Is he gaining weight? Liam was 5lb 7oz, but iirc Ryan was even smaller. They are just like little dolls aren't they? Liam looks like he is getting bigger. He certainly feeds a lot. Any more thoughts on putting Ryan in his own room. On the other thread I mentioned that my Ryan went into his room from birth and that we used a monitor for reassurance. What I didn't mention was that dh bought an 'Angel' monitor with a movement sensor because he knew I was a bit nervous about it. (We had one episode in hospital where he went very blue, it never happened again, but I was worried it might). That monitor/sensor gave me a lot of peace of mind.

I'm off out now, but I'll check in later to see if anyone else has mossied on over.

Hi dal and kinki, can i join in despite having missed ante-natal version?!
My dh is keen on putting Max into his own room asap, i've said 6 weeks, for no other reason than its comfortably far off at the moment!

The other thing on my mind is sore nipples, AAAARGHH! On one i have a big crack despite lanisoh and seemingly good latching baby. I'm only surviving with nipple shields, which are extremely effective. That boob has obviously shrunk although is still producing. The midwife looked this morning, pulled a face and said i was doing well to be still using it and to persevere! Max has also slowed down his weight gain and isn't quite back to birthweight as a result. There's nothing quite like the toe curling pain as he latches on.......

Hi Bex, welcome, course you can join in. It doesn't look like it yet, but we reckon we have one of the biggest groups yet! The ante-natal group is massive. And very friendly and supportive too.

Oooh, I don't envy cracked nipples. I hope that sorts itself out soon for you. When did you have your baby?

Hello there !!

Well done for setting up new thread for the poppers !

Hi,

Thought i'd join you ladies here. Congratulations on the birth of your lo's. I was officially due in October, though had a baby boy yesterday morning. Weighed 7lbs 3ozs (him, not me!) following a very quick though painful labour. Have named him Moran and im so proud of my little bundle of joy.

Have to agree that latching on is painful beyond belief.Will continue to persevere, but probably not for the 20 months or so that I breastfed with DD.

All to everyone on this thread and also to those who are yet to join us. Looking forward to sharing our parenting experiences. x

hi everyone, i'm attempting my first post typing with one hand and holding luca with the other! going to be the defining mnet experience i guess! hehe!

it feels strange to be over here when so many of the others are still over on the ante natal thread! it feels so wierd that the people i!ve been talking to for so long are still pg and i'm not!

can i join the long line of those with cracked nipples? i've got blood blisters on mine! ouch!

Hello everyone - just home from hospital today!

Alexander Joshua was born sun 16th sept at 3.55am 7lb 14oz on his due date!

Both doing well - much better than last time! DS1 is being a good and proud big brother at the moment so fingers crossed it continues

hi on our other thread, well done dal. mrsmar,im doing the one handed typing too . patientline tooooo slow though. kinki, how do we cope with sore nips? advice from a pro please! my LO doesnt like the taste of lansinoh. when did your milk come in after cs.. eveyone whos had one/

HIWBB - I am sure milk was slower coming in with this lo as I had c section. It was day 5 before I felt full if you know what I mean !? I posted on other thread re Peppermint - apparently it does affect milk
production - sorry don't know what else helps trapped wind ! !

It does feel strange on the PN thread - really I should be on August anyway shouldn't I ??

Hope, my milk came in properly on Day 5 (counting Wills birth date as Day 1, so 4 days after that).

Re. the September thread being one of the biggest, apparently Sept is the busiest month for babies. It's because of all those DPs on their Christmas hols... you know what it's like, there's never anything good on the telly at Christmas...

Hi Hopey, shucks, I'm no pro, just a week or 2 earlier than most! I posted something on either Tink's or Edie's threads (can't remember which) about sore nipples. I was told to express a small amount of milk out at the end of the feed (the richer hind milk) and gently massage it into the nipple (into as in onto, not actually 'in to it', I caused a little bit of confusion with my wording on the other thread!). Apparently there is a natural healing agent within the breast milk. I did this, and never had cracked nipples.

Another tip I was given was to just feed from one boob at each feed. This not only helps the baby get the right mix of hind and fore milk, but it also means that the other nipple gets a few hours break and a chance to heal. However, after I posted this Tiktok mentioned that this might not be the best way to feed a newborn. I gather she has lots of experience and I'd happily bow to her judgement. But for me it has worked feeding like this for all 3 of mine from the first hour of birth.

As to why it starts to hurt in the first place, I'm told it to do with the latch. I remember with ds2 I could always feed comfortably on one side, but was always a bit sore on the other. They kept telling me to bf in front of a mirror to try to spot the difference in the way I was holding ds, or get someone to watch me closely. But tbh I never figured it out. So if its just one side that is hurting you, maybe try to spot the diffence in your feeding techniques on each side iyswim. All the best hopey, happy feeding. What do Niamh's brother's think of her?

About milk coming in, mine came at about 48hrs. Thinking this was early I chatted to a mw and I'm sure her response was something like it's not that surprising since I'd had a cs and this was my 3rd baby.

ACmum, forgot to say, I wondered about joining in the August thread. I'm sure they are absolutely lovely there, but decided not to, as I feel I've evolved here (so long as the 'real' september ladies are happy to keep having me that is) .

kinki, NO DON'T GO!!!!! You're OUR friend!!

Thanks for all the advice re bf

I didn't say anything on other thread, but I fell to pieces quite spectacularly last night. Poor DH . Part of symptom was seeing DH holding Naimh with his one good arm, she started possiting so I had to take over.... it broke my heart, really it did. Midwife cme in to introduce herself and I burst out crying , I had just thrown up too. It seems I was a lot more tired than I realised. The lovely midwife too Naimh last night at 11:30 and brought her back at 6:30!!!! Had a really good sleep.

I always seem to suffer from irrational anxiety/panic attacks in the early few days, normally triggered by extreme tiredness , seems worse at mo because of DH's arm. He would normally just take over and give me a break.. things bit differemt this time , I love DH SO much and just wish the accident hadnt happened. Right, pulling oneself together now!!! I'm going to try and get in touch with a lady today who works for 'the centre for enablement' she apparently specialises in disabilties for parents. Feel better if I'm being proactive.

Got to go, N has woken up

I'm not going anywhere.

Sorry to hear about last night Hopey. But please please remember the hormone thing that kicks in in the early days. It doesn't take much to tip us all over the edge of insanity when the babies are newborn. I said the other day to someone else I managed to have a full blown row on the maternity ward with dh . All hormone driven. And it is of course totally understandable that you potentially have a whole new set of triggers that none of us have experienced - eg seeing Niamh positing on dh. But hey, don't forget there are squillions and squillions of daddies who would have needed rescuing regardless of how strong their arms are. He must have felt frustrated I'm sure. But it is early days, I still think he'll develop strategies to get by. I don't even know the guy, but most fellas I know don't like to be outdone by women! Good luck with the 'centre of enablement', that sounds promising. What a great name for it! The mw sounds great, how lovely giving you a break so you can get some sleep. So tell us, what is your room and facilities like there, I'm dying (of jealousy) to know!

Just going to whisper something very quietly and as sensitively as I can: I found out yesterday that 3 weeks after giving birth I am only 0.5kg heavier than when I booked in at the beginning of my pregnancy. Made my day, that did.

HIWBB - Just popping on to say Congratulations - been keeping an eye out to see the size. Am very of your properly sized baby (you'll be able to put her in newborn clothes!). Sounds like you've had a stressful run up to the birth so it's no wonder that with a huge dose of hormones on top that you feel weepy. I'm sure that you'll be feeling more together soon. Hope you have a quick recovery from your CS and get home soon.

Great name by the way!

Hi ladies

Feel very excited to pop on here 'legally' and can't wait for all the other patient ladies to join us too.

As I said on the other thread we came home last night as the care on the ward was pretty dire and I knew I would have a tonne more help at home. As soon as the paediatrician checked Millie over we were gone - she did a huge wee on him when he was examining her lady bits - I was so proud

HIWBB (((HUGS))) Like kinki says don't underestimate those evil hormones - in combination with sore nips and sleep deprivation there is no way a rational reaction to anything can occur for a little while, and having a good bawl is very therapeutic. I agree with oh-wise-kinki - your DH will soon find ways of adapting with his bad arm until it has recovered more. Good on you for sorting out the enablement thingy - 2 days post-op - see you are wonderwoman again! Just look at little Niamh and give her a gigantic cuddle - might make you cry but in a good way.

Kinki - am going to have to pretend I didn't read about the weight thing and try and be pleased for you but am very very as I fear i have put on a metric tonne myself - maybe it is all fluid and I will wee it out in the next few days?? Well done you though Must also agree with a comment you made about your little Liam fitting right in straight away. As soon as we got Millie home I felt so relaxed and she was part of the family straight away, despite one of the DTs being a bit jealous, but we'll work on that.

Anyway, must go and give madam a snack and a cuddle and sniff the top of her head - had forgotten how addictive the smell of a newborn baby's head is - Yum.

Oh goody, an official thread for our postnatal club! I totally agree with all the earlier comments on painful boobs, how can such a sweet little baby trigger such agony. I'm making the first trip to the shops today to get a nursing bra as I only have a sleep bra at present which is nowhere near supportive enough for during the day. I have been trying to manage with my pre-baby bras but it's just hopeless hoisting basically the whole bra up or down to get a boob out. Hammerheadshark, you are so right about the smell of newborn babies. They are so yummy I could spend all day contentedly sniffing my baby's soft head.......

Thanks for messages of support ladies. Had a bad night with Naimh last night, couldn't get her to settle until gone 6 . I wish I didn't go through this stupid hormonal process. I'm feeling as flat as a pancake and just can't shift it. Came home last night, the room got a bit noisy the previous night with induced women screaming and another baby in the adjacent room crying. Naimh's first claim to fame is that the room we were in was the very room that Tim Henman and his wife were in last Friday!

Can I ask, do any of you suffer from dreadful anxiety based it seems on sleep. Last night DH and MIL told me to go upstairs and have a sleep but I was lying there and my heart was pounding, almost like I was putting myself under incredible pressure to sleep. Also this morning, after Niamh got to sleep, I could sleep because I kept on expecting her to wake up. HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [crying emoticon]

meant to say I COULDN'T sleep

Hi HIWBB (ooh you need a name change now!) just wanted to say congratulations and I hope you are able to get some sleep soon. Sending you ((((((hugs))))) and hoping the hormones sort themselves out. I totally understand where you're coming from, I burst in to tears yesterday when the midwives said they were discharging me from their care. I got all emotional about that as they'd taken care of me for the past nine months.... starting to well up now thinking about it. They're a bloody pain aren't they these hormones?

Have you tried some deep breathing and relaxation exercises to help you sleep? It sounds deeply new agey and hippyish, but I've suffered from insomnia in the past (not baby related though) and it really helped. Even if you don't sleep, the deep breathing really helps you to relax. I had a cd, which was a bit poncey, but after a while I found th woman's voice on it as she talked through the relaxation exercise really soothing.

Whatever you try, please don't beat yourself up about sleep, sometimes even just lying down and resting in a dark room is enough to rest your brain, so you don't need to get so anxious about sleeping. Just relax with some lovely music, even for 20 minutes, will help you so much. Take care and be kind to yourself xx

Ahhh, hopey, sorry, I've only just seen your post. Hang on in there, I'll be back after the school run. You're not alone.

Hope, so sorry to hear you're feeling so miz :-( Hormones SUCK. I know what you mean about the sleep thing - for me, it's knowing that you have a very limited opportunity to sleep (eg. when the baby's asleep or you have someone to help out for an hour) and if you don't take that chance then it's going to feel like ages until you get another chance.

Hopey, don't you just HATE it when people tell you what to do (albeit in good faith) when you just know it won't work or help. Enforced sleep when you know it won't happen is not good. Everyone says sleep when the lo sleeps, but I can't sleep during the day at all. The best I can do is 'rest', but even that is under duress sometimes. Do you have a tv in your room? When I 'rest' I put some boring progamme on or the news channel and just watch that. If it doesn't send me off to sleep at least my body is at rest. I'm fortunate in that I don't get the heart pounding thing, that can't be too much fun.

And about feeling flat, that is bound to be connected with the lack of sleep. Funny how we're all different isn't it, when I'm suffering from lack of sleep (admitedly not often as I'm a natural insominac anyway) I'm very up-and-down, very emotional and can get very hyper. Dh thinks I'm just a derranged hormonal old bat. I'm sure as the days go by Niamh will become more predictable when she'll sleep and you'll be able to fit in around her.

Mrs M had some great ideas for relaxing. I probably should try them myself too.

Impressive claim to fame for Niamh! So come on then, was it dead posh? Were you waited on hand and foot? And is it true you get a la carte menus and alcohol in private hospitals. Talking of alcohol, how about a glass of wine tonight to help you relax. I'm going to. I think I deserve it, and so do you. Hell, we all do.

Hammer, don't be too impressed about the weight thing. I ought to go on a diet now to shift the rest of it. You're so right about the smell of newborns. It was partly for that reason that I didn't give Liam his first bath for 3 weeks. His smell is so addictive.

I ended up at the docs again today. Dh and my dad made me go. I fought them all the way but they made me. For a couple of days I've had a dead leg, sort of crampy, heavy and painful. I thought it was a sciatic type thing connected to the spinal block I had, but they were worried it might be a dvt. Turns out I was right (thank goodness). I must admit I am getting very frustrated with my bodies inability to get over this birth. Its feeling like if it's not one thing it's another. I just want equilibrium restored.

Thanks everyone! My FANTASTIC Stepmum and Dad and stayed lastnight and she took Niamh for me. DH and I have had the MOST BRILLIANT night's sleep! SHE IS SUCH AN ANGEL! Niamh was very restless last night again, she didn't settle for her poor Nanny until 4:30, she's still asleep now , WHY does she sleep so much during the day and not settle at night. I know babies are pre-programmed this way, but it seems she is SO much harder to settle at night than my boys were.

I've posted a message about the Amby Natures Nest. Has anyone got one and are they any good. Niamh doesn't like to sleep in her crib. Although at the hospital she was fine. Do you think it would be worth investing in an Amby Natures Nest?

Hope, Will is the same as Niamh at not settling at night. Personally I think it's because that's the routine they get into whilst they're growing inside us. All day we're walking about and rockign them to sleep and then when we got to bed things are still for them, so they wake up! Then when they're born it takes them a while to readjust themselves - it's like they're jetlagged Just my theory anyway... Kinki, sorry you're not recovering too well - I am exactly the same. Infected scar so am now on antibiotics and everything else is hurting too - most awful stomach pains coming and going. As you said, I just want my body to get back to how it was so that I can start enjoying looking after Will. All very frustrating...