April 2007 - No more mention of unmentionables please!

[PillockOfTheCommunity]

by that I mean reusuable nappies, or I may do as Katy suggests and smother you all with them

when I bottle feed dd, I always hold her out of the window, to avoid any unecessary contact. Heaven forbid, if a baby is breastfed, well what an attention seeker it will be.

lol at changing their own nappies, although T almost can - well he can almost get it off, haven't seen him sho much interest in wiping and putting new one back on
Pesha, I agree that it's the don't cuddle / play with babies that I think is abuse. I don't feed or sleep to a routine but each to their own and I can see how that can and would work well. But not to cuddle a baby who is crying for a cuddle (and again I agree finishing a wee or seeing to other children is one thing, to deliberately ignore them just because is another ). Also playing with them - I feel guilty for MNing when T is awake and wants to play - surely even very basic playing is contributing to their social and intellectual development?

mmk - you hold her?
Can't you just kind of prop up the bottle some how and let her feed herself (in a darkened room of course so she doesn't have anything interesting to look at?)

That's another thing, doesn't she say don't cuddle unless bathing or feeding, but then says not to cuddle them when feeding either?! And I don't cuddle him when bathing as I'm too busy gripping on for dear life! Oh dear a few very uncuddled babies I think, very

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And before any one else does it I'm going to invent a prop for self-feeding babies.
The "Polar Bear Prop"
Then I will make millions and have an army of staff to ensure I don't have to bond with DS.

Hellooooo. Just popping in because by some miracle my internet is behaving today - it's been wildly erratic recently and only on for 2 hours a day. Not great fund when you're trying to work from home!

All okay here - Niamh seems to be enjoying school, although she is very tired and sometimes a bit teary in the mornings. She looks so grown up going off in her uniform, and I have been feeling very old - surely I'm not old enough to have a child at school?!

Orla is loving her childminder, but still won't take a bottle so we're going to have fun next week which is the first week I have meetings which mean I won't be there to feed her at 9.30 and/or 4.00. Monday she is there from 8.00 - 4.00, and Wednesday from 9.30 until 5.30. She's enjoying her solids though so maybe I will send some extra snacks.

Thanks Ellie for the email about Vio - what devastating news - my heart goes out to them. Is there anything we can do practically for them, or is a donation to DEBRA the most useful thing?

No time to catch up, as the internet will undoubtedly vanish again shortly, but just wanted to pop in and let you know we're still here! Hope everyone is doing okay, and coping with the back to school / back to work / back to real life shock!!

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Oooh now if she could get babies to change their own nappies I might have to revise my opinion of her!

Actually no even that wouldn't stop me thinking she's awful.

Took dog for a lovely walk this morning with D in the hugababy sling with his head tucked inside resting against my chest fast asleep and it was just so absolutely wonderful to have him all snuggled up like that, like being pg again except I could see his little face. Definitely a memory I will treasure. [soppy]
So to think some people might try and follow cv and miss out on moments like that. Although can't understand how anyone actually would follow that, how can you not cuddle your own baby? It's beyond me.

I'm quite sure that giving cuddles, contact and play must be mothering and nuturing just as feeding is. I see her need for cuddles and play just as vital as her need to feed, or get the poopies cleaned up.

Hmm spb, DD doesn't replace her own nappies either! I'm sure that is a milestone...But then, DH can't even change his underpants,so there is no hope for his children.

Yes, I do hold her (or get the butler to do it) it's disgraceful, she will surely turn out to be a dictator....

pesha, how cute. Those memories are surely the most wonderful part of motherhood.

spb,I'll have one of your slings. At present, I prop her up on the dustbin

SPB lol at you hanging on for dear life whilst bathing T

I also think the strict feeding and sleeping through the night routine for newborns is very dangerous. Newborn babies really do need feeding on demand and cannot be expected to go through the night. Especially if trying to breastfeed it could be completely buggered up by 4 hour feeding. And nighttime feeds are vital for establishing supply. Her advice would have been extremely dangerous for D. Oh and she suggested giving porridge to a 2 week old bf baby to help them through the night Now I understand alot of people dont hold out for 6 months and I think that just a matter of personal choice and what suits different babies/lifestyles, same as routines, but 2 weeks ffs?!!

Hi Bramshott was going to say something in response to your post I think but cant for the life of me remember what it is now

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Well I balance Erin's bottle on a cushion while she sits in her bouncy chair to feed...she takes more milk that way maybe I'm just crap at feeding

Don't like all the "get your baby in a routine the day they're born" stuff tho. We've never really tried to get Erin into a routine and she's just fallen into one naturally. It works for us, tho I understand it won't be like that for all babies.

MMK lol at dh not changing underpants dp doesn't even wear underpants (tmi?) which I'm sure is more down to laziness than any need for 'freedom'! I wouldn't mind except dd thinks its fascinating and has told all my family that 'daddy doesn't wear pants'

Thanks for that Pesha, just had a quick glance. D got a closer hug.

At this rate I'm having doubts about it being worth going into central London, it's just going to take so long, and I don't really want to be out later than 6 pm today. I might just take D for a walk quite locally and then stop off outside the cafe in the park on the way home.

Fancied a name change although this one would have been better a couple weeks ago when it was a topic of conversation. Too slow again as always!!

PMSL

By elkiedee on Tue 18-Sep-07 13:22:43
Thanks for that Pesha, just had a quick glance.

By Peshatlast on Tue 18-Sep-07 13:16:11
dp doesn't even wear underpants (tmi?)

pesha, sorry, don't get your new name

[thick today - nearly left my shoes at baby group]

nutty, I'm afraid all the bottle propping in the world won't make you a CV guru if you are a tree hugging hippy-type real nappy user
Plus - that ruins my plans for millionaredom then

Alopecia SPB, prob not you being thick but me stretching things abit far!

PMSL at elkie having a glance! Glad you enjoyed it Elkie

Ah I get it
(and my hair's dropping out too )

Argh, don't remind me aloPesha - hair still falling out by the handfull here.

We could go into wig making SPB. There's enough in my plug-hole every morning.

urgh
Actually that's my least favourite household task (unblocking the plughole), I hate it more than ironing
Speaking of housework...

pmsl
you lot really make me laugh sometimes
come home to find my lovely brother doing my garden for me, is is fab sometimes

LOL, must be careful about crossposting (of course I was talking about the link to the thread about the anti-cuddling theory).

Blardy hell, you lot can talk

Actually managed to read all the posts, but this is what my brain has remembered -

Someone is going to knit a sanitary towel
Rueuseable nappies are fighting with disposables
I owe mmk money (blush)

and that's it.....(blush)

W in door bouncer and has the hiccups - so cute