April 2007 - No more mention of unmentionables please!

[PillockOfTheCommunity]

by that I mean reusuable nappies, or I may do as Katy suggests and smother you all with them

We had that last week Liath, was so tired I had to have yesterday off work I was so tired so there is hope of it getting better!

Fingers crossed Pillock! A few of the babies have done this lately IIRC haven't they?

To top it all I'd changed him in the wee hours and grabbed a disposible out of the change bag then he did the most enormous poo which leaked out all over his baby gym. Bah!

Morning all! Older 2 at nursery and P just down for a sleep so dashing in here before I hop in the shower.

Yey for Joe's good night's sleep, E!

Morning...cannot ever keep up with all the chat that goes on here at night!

Really exciting day planned here, involving cleaning out fridge, writing a shopping list and going shopping. That's food shopping, so nothing exciting at all. Neeeeed to go as it's DH's birthday tomorrow and need cake (at the very least). Not that I'll be eating any of it .

However, the good news is that I have lost some weight!!!! Wooo hooo, the diet/exercise finally seems to be doing something at bloody last. Braved the scales at the gym and I have 1 stone to loose to get back to my pre-preg weight. So make that 1.5 stone to get back to the weight I'd like to be.

Other good news is that I finally had a cortisone injection in my hip yesterday. Still a bit sore today, but am hoping this is going to do the trick and I can finally stop taking the pain killers I've been on since S was born.

OK, need to ask a question....have any of you got one of those contraceptive implants? Have been on the pill for years (with a few breaks, obviously), but really don't want to take it again, and am considering having an implant. Does anyone know of any nasty side effects?

Sorry, bit self-absorbed post......

Oooggs - glad you liked the email. I could so relate to it!

Well done on weight loss IDOC! I have got back to where I was before getting pg - unfortuantely that's still about 2 stone too heavy Am trying to eat sensibly but as Pillock mentioned the temptation to graze when at home all day is too strong!
Well, off to the tip in a sec, then to baby group then back hopefully to do some house tidying if T sleeps / is calm this afternoon. Ages ago we made an offer on a house, they are now considering buying ours so we can buy theirs and are coming round on Thursday to look at it - eek!

IDOC, implanon is very effective but the main side effect is erratic bleeding. Friend of mine who had it also said her libido took a knock. You could try taking the progesterone pill cerazette for a bit as it's very similar to implanon in terms of side effects. My sister is taking it with no problems and has managed to lose a fair bit of weight at the same time. HTH

good morning all, good to hear some of you got a nice kip.

loosing weight, fitting in clothes...((( dashes off to find old Weightwatchers stuff)))

You are doing so well, even thinking about loosing weight.

I'm at home all day today, so will let you know about the account.

Bummis Rainbow Prefolds

Liath, tut tut...dispo in the changing bag

IDOC - wow at losing weight, still heavier than I was here. I've stopped getting any snack food in the house, otherwise I eat all day. No idea about implant, sorry.

Have lots of stuff to sort out here before we go away at the weekend but I'm just not going to be able to cos Erin's being really clingy at the moment ...dh will just have to help.

I know nutty . And I didn't half pay for it - poo everywhere. I'm just not used to leaky nappies, the cloth ones never do.

nutty what self control just not buying the snacks - they fall into my trolley when I'm shopping

I believe you when you say the cloth ones never leak but then I'm confused - why do some people who use reusables use a disposable at night?

we are just starting to remove the energy boosters from our diet. We have old fashioned plain cereal (much less sugar etc)and old fashioned biscuits (ditto. Here is a yummy tip to brighten up boring dinner, or if you just love pies

get some jus rol puff pastry cut into small triangles and serve with left overs or what ever you fancy.

Magic-alls

I've taken to ordering an organic veg/fruit box so don't have to go to a supermarket!!! (we get meat from local market).

I think the main reason people use a dispo at night is if they have a heavy wetter it's less bulky. Some people find that they need a nappy with a few boosters in to last overnight and don't like the bulky look of it. I use cloth at night as well as during the day. Then again I haven't yet needed to boost my nappies at night. If I find I had to boost them I'd try out a v good at night nappy (e.g. huggle) first. Ultimately all the boosting does no harm so I think it's purely looks wise.

right.
t just been sick down me - lovely!

Ellie doesn't like GF!! Who'd have thought - you're always so organised and disciplined!

Not a fan here either although she's starting to sound like some laid back old hippy compared to Clare Verity! Have never read a childcare book in my life other than the one the HV gave me, I just go with the flow mostly. Although I have to admit this baby seems to be getting a slightly softer mummy than the other 2 did, bit more carrying and bit less crying while I'm doing something else going on. He's my PLB - Precious Last Born!!

He's currently giving Matthew Wright huge smiles

LOL at PLB Pesha. I guess that means I've got a PFB and a PLB!

yeah that Claire Verity stuff borders on abuse IMO
At least GF has always said her methods are for older babies (I think?)
Pesha - lol at your PLB! Also going to try to wait to 6 months to wean, T is small and hasn't shown any particular interest so far! I plan a birthday meal on the 27th of oct (he will be exactly 6m but it's the closest saturday) where we have a nice meal and he has a stick of carrot and bit of broccoli to stick up his nose and generally fling around

When D was born I couldn't imagine ever having a routine, but we've evolved a sort of routine which mostly works for us and helps us cope. What I find offputting is that some childcare experts seem to suggest that mothers/parents are failing if they don't do it one particular way. It's no good for someone who needs or wants to go back to work and has a limited childcare budget having a routine which requires a stay at home mum or full time nanny to implement it.

Good to hear Joe slept through Ellie. It made such a difference when D first started to do that. At the weekend he woke up for a feed at 3 am both Friday and Saturday and we were getting really anxious, but just as we'd discussed and agreed how we needed to deal with it (I wanted us to get up, get him changed, heat and give feed and divvy tasks between us but get on with it rather than letting him go from whiny to screechy), he slept through the last two nights again. This morning he was about to wake at 5.50 (not unusual) but I got him to go back to sleep until 7.15 - never thought that would be my idea of a blissful lie in.

Time to feed D now and then I'm going to try taking him to visit the office.

Morning or is it afternoon, i have no Idea seems like today has been going on forever.
Bloody Lola is really to get on my nerves, she keeps rolling over in her sleep then crying when she is on her front "IF YOU DON'T LIKE BEING ON YOUR FRONT DON'T ROLL OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
So today started about 4am when I started having to roll her back over,
Zed did well he slept right through till 7.30 no t a peep out of him

I have to say (and it will only be a quick bitch, cause I could spend all day)
I personally HATE GF with a passion she makes me sooooo but that is just me.
Glad your LO is doing so well MMK.

I hope all you northerners had a good meet-up, so of you i wish some of you lot lived round here (like walking distance).

My tesco shopping is on the way EARLY
so I better tidy up a bit.

Hello still got hideous swollen elbow so if there are typos I'm afrid I won't be correcting them.

Whoever was asking about Implanon I have it. No erratic bleeding, but I could not be less interested in sex. That could also be down to bf and a baby that wakes every 2 hours.

DH away until Friday so am going up to mam's and plan to try and settle G at least once or twice a night with water. Hope that in a few days he'll be taking more through day and sleeping more at night.

V of your sleeping babies.

I too am back to pre pg size however that's still a stone heavier than I'd like to be so I should really get my ass into gear.

Have a good week everyone. Hoping to have a better elbow by Sunday night when I get back.

SBS/Maveta hope your dad improves, will be thinking of you nd your family

Apologies for lack of personal messages.

It's interesting, but the childcare books I have read all seem to assume that you only have one child. Given that statistics show that over 80% of mothers have more than one child, it seems the authors are missing the point.

Yes, if you take GF literally, you'd have no life at all, and baby would only ever sleep in a darkened room! You would need at least three staff, to do all the housework while you try to do the routine.
However, having said that, if it suits you, and you can adapt you and yours to it, it can be just the very thing.

I haven't read Ms Verity, what has she got to say for herself?

elkie funny isn't it? before children a lie in meant get up at 11am. now, a lie in is anything after 5.30am!

Claire Verity says :

"Feed your baby on a strict four hour feeding schedule the moment they get out of hospital. She says, ?The key to a happy baby is food. The mistake most mums make is that they don?t feed their babies enough.?

There must be a strict routine. Babies must be in bed by 7pm every evening.
Babies should sleep in their own cots.
Only one nighttime feed is allowed.
Babies are started on solids at 17 weeks.

Cuddles are also restricted. Claire says too much fuss can make a baby crave attention.

?Imagine having a dog with a ball and you keep throwing it for them. Then all of a sudden you stop and walk away and they don?t understand.

It will think: ?Why have you stopped playing with me?? It will start barking, dropping the ball at your feet and annoying you.

It?s the same with a baby. If a baby?s picked up for half an hour, cuddled and then put down, it will get upset.?"

" you should (bottle) feed holding the baby away from the body because it'll get too cosy... "

"If you don't feed that baby, you're starving it. And it is controversial, but it's absolutely true. People are very nervous about when to start weaning. And so they do it for six months, but they are literally counting down the days. Meanwhile, that baby's been starving for two months."

'i don't understand why anyone wants to pick up a baby. a baby wants to be left alone to grow'.

Taken from here Also thread about her here

As far as I'm concerned to not cuddle a baby at all is child abuse, it's neglect whatever way you look at it and is physically and mentally damaging for a baby (I dont mean leaving it crying whilst dealing with other children btw or letting a colicy baby cry it out, thats different.) Everything a baby wants is also what it needs. The woman makes me furious, she is her parenting methods are evil

(In case you hadnt noticed!! )

ooer I don't like the sound of her much! Oh dear, what a wayward mother I am then! I often pick up my children, and eek, cuddle them. So, that is why they have gone beserk then. Completely barking.....

Does she insist that the change their own nappies?

She makes Stalin look like a ballerina