May 2007 Postnatal, sleep and smiles only please babies!!!

[Mrsjaffabiffa]

Thought it was time for a new thread.

Now you come to mention it, J does sleep better in the day when he is in his grobag.

CM - C has had aptamil for his one and only formula feed and had no ill effects. He also has bottles of ebm.

I have been out for the day today and my mum has looked after C (with 2 bottles of ebm). I don't think she will be asking me why I don't get any jobs done again! He has been a very good baby apparently but only sleeps for 20 to 30 mins at a time and needs entertaining when he is awake! What a surprise, just what I have been trying to tell her! I feel for you AL, its hard! Trouble is we are alway here, there and everywhere so sleeping in his cot during the day just isn't going to happen.

Had quite a different day as been to family court with one of my bfs who was there becuase her ex had applied for custody of the kids. She won thank god as CAFCASS recommended they stay with her but we were there for ages ironing out all the niggles I take for granted when talking to me exh. It made me realise how lucky I am that we actually speak!

Just off to express as I have not been with C much I feel like I am exploding!

Evening, geeee I don't know where to start, I don't think I can mention everything I've read.

lg&t I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo with you on the crying thing

AM, how was the Monkey Music, glad the decorating is going well.

Abby, 30 mins is quite a long time, if Jorja hasn't settled within 10-15 then she's not ready to sleep. Usually I pick her up, she burps and I put her back down. Sometimes if she doesn't do an immediate burp, I'll bring her down for 10mins or so and have chat and then try her again. Can you try the pick up put down method with her. Def an idea to put her in her sleep bag, J has exactly same routine day or night to go to bed. Bed is Bed, it doesn't matter to a baby weather it's day or night, there internal body clock tells them that.

Lupins huge positive vibes for your friends poorly baby, will be thinking of you all and hope things are ok.

Teeth scoot WOW!!

AM they can come up and down as they are trying to break through. Our's do the same, my wisdom teeth used to come up and down all the time until the hospital whipped them out. lol

Sure there is loads I've missed SORRY

hugs to all

xxx

Just had a text from a friend who i work with to say that she had a ds2 this morning by elective cs. He was delivered about 1 wk early and is 9lbs 5oz.

I've read that if you're a "let cry" person, then no more than 1 hour at nap times, and "indefinitely" at bedtime. That's from a paediatrician... Personally, I wouldn't let her go longer than 10 or 15 mins at nap time, much like MrsJB.

I too listen to the type of cry. There's "complaining" and there's "hysterical - no way am I sleeping" type crying.

Abby - try putting her down in a quiet room (in chair/ cot, doesn't matter) 90 mins after last waking and leaving for 15 mins. You see by 2 hours she'll be overtired and babies get a rush of energy at that stage - second wind - and it's harder to sleep then.

April - I'm also getting some painting done! Hurrah! DH just sprung it on me. "Oh so and so does painting and decorating when he's not got any telly work so I've asked him to come round and quote". He'll be doing our hallway, which frankly, lets the whole house down and the living room/ dining room, which is such a deep shade of red (left by last owner), that I feel like I'm living in a womb. The front partof the room is north facing so quite dark. Going to have it painted a lovely light colour. Yay. Just need to choose the colours.

Hi everyone!! Well I like my new job. It's no big deal, but it's fun. I work for a children's clothing store so the people there are pretty light hearted.

I miss my babies so much all day. I think of them all the time, and pumping at work is no fun, but it's working out ok.

DS1 is doing great with the new schedule, but Cruz is a different story. He misses his mommy very much, and is miserable if anyone gives him formula. I try to leave a bottle of EBM and formula, but he's shown which one he prefers. I miss them like crazy. I let Cruz sleep in the bed with me again just because I want to be near him.

I wake up tired now, and miss my life as a SAHM,

I'm also a let them cry person. But mine have been one's that don't cry for no reason. Usually there is something wrong. So if I know that the are fed, clean, burped, they can cry all they want.

Poor you MKG, i really feel for you and would probably be doing just the same. Keeping Cruz close while you are there, im sure they will both settle down to it soon.

Abby im like TYG in that i listen to the cry, i know if B is just tired or something else is wrong and he wont settle. I can usually tell within 15 mins or so if he really isnt going to flake. For instance when we drove up to Oxford on Friday, hideous traffic and roasting car, he was SCREAMING and was hot and bothered. I had to keep pulling over to calm him down. He was tired but was overheating so i knew that just leaving him wouldnt work.

He hates the car too, all the others could be yelling when you put them in the car but as soon as i start the engine they would go right to sleep... not Beau. He screams and does not sleep well. Nightmare!

In the evening i let him yell for 20 mins or so if i know he is tired and has possibly just gone past the 'put me down im tired bit'. If i catch him at the right time like Cam he is out like a light without a murmur.

MrsJB for your friend! Bet she is glad he wasnt 2 weeks late!!!

The meetup time sounds fab April. I will be over there mooching already i expect. Would you like a lift Pebble or can you get there? Im not sure the KK shop is open yet

Am off to toddlers soon, a new one so will be like billy no mates, it's worse than being at school!

Oh MKG, I really feel for you. I had to go back to high school when S was 3.5mths. It's so hard to be away from them. I know you'll make the most of your three days at home, though. And remember how excited you were about getting the job. It IS nice to be around adults as well. I miss the people at work - I just don't miss the actual work enough to go back! I was in the office the other day and I did feel a bit of a pang, I have to say... Hope it gets easier for you.

LG&T - Nightmare with B in the car. A used to be like that and still does that awful screaming sometimes, but thankfully doesn't cry every damn time I put her in the car seat now. She was better without the head-hugger thingy, but then I realised she was too young not to have it and had to replace it. grrr.

Hi all. Well today has been better so far. When we got back from the cm this morning I knew R was tired so even though she had been awake 2 hours I put her in her cot with the curtains closed etc. She moaned for a bit and I put her dummy back a few times. After a while she started to cry a bit more so I went in and put her in her sleeping bag. Hey presto, she dropped off and slept for an hour!!! I was so pleased. She woke at 10 and I thought she would be in a good mood becasue she'd had sleep but she seems grumpier than ever now - oh well, you can't have everything can you?

Oh my god, she went back to sleep at 11 in the bouncy chair and she's still asleep now!

thats great Abby, perhaps she is getting the hang of this sleep thingy

hello again all.

Sorry to hear about some of the babes with sleeping probs, but good to know that i'm not the only one with a non-daytime-sleeping baby!

J will normaly go down for about 40 mins after his first feed of the day, but then has about 2-3 catnaps of around 20-30 mins if I go for walks. By 5.30 he is so tired that he keeps falling asleep during his before bedtime feed, which is supposed to be the big feed setting him up for the night.

With regards to the let them cry method. I tried it last week for the first time, knowing he was clean, fed and very tired... 1min 48sec... and then I gave up. I'll let him cry if it's just a whimper or moan, but this was full-on hysteric with streaming tears.

I'll go and read the rest of the thread now

After yesterday's conversation I put D in his crib, which we tend to move between the bedroom and sitting room still, this morning. He closed his eyes and slept for 45 minutes.

Scoot waves white flag

Have also sustained a nasty GHD injury to hand due to my haste this morning in trying to avoid the pineapple look for my trip to the Drs..needless to say I did not achieve the sleek locks shown on the advert and my status as a yummy mummy (snort ) has been seriously damaged..

Scoot, you are having a bad day sweetie. here have a virtual hug, they always make things better.....

lg&t, Jorja HATES being in the car too, she will NOT go to sleep in it. I wonder if it's because she sleeps on her tummy though and can not get comfy.

Abby, R's done well today, persevere with the same routine, it may work sometimes and not others but the longer you stay consistent the quicker she'll know you mean business.

Sorry jellybelly, had to chuckle at your 1.48sec.... Grand try there. hey it's not for everyone but it does get easier the more you do it. I think it was lg&t yesterday that said B often goes hell for leather before he flakes, Jorja is the same but it lasts minutes usually.

MKG, I feel for you, I don't think I'd like to go back to work now, they can drive me mad but I still need to be around them all the time. for you but remember it won't hurt them.

I've been trying to drop Jorja's bed time feed she used to have around 10ish, the night before last I brought it forward to 8.30pm and then put her to bed at 9, she slept till, 8am when I woke her for the school run. Last night we fed her at 7.30, she was in bed by 8pm and woke at 8.15am I'm hoping thats it and we've cracked it, 3 kids in bed asleep by 8pm latest will suit me.
I put her up to bed at 1pm this avo and she's still soundo.

OH dear scoot, i hope your afternoon is better than your morning.

MrsJB, i dont know how you do it?! Ella's sleep is all over the place again She wont settle for naps and really really goes for it before possibly giving in to the S word. She is waking at 11pm most nights and still waking in the night. I just dont know what to do.... She is eating one meal a day at the moment. I cant remember when you increase it to 2. She has been on solids for a week and a half......

See, just when you think you have it sussed they throw a curve ball and its like being back to square one..Have eaten a whole tin of custard..and whilst I was doing so, M has fallen asleep, oh sweet relief...

Diet! Went to baby cinema with a new NCT buddy and had tea and cake whilst watching the film at 11am. (It's very civilised indeed.) Then we went to the cafe in the park and met another friend and had coffee and lunch. Bought a slice of... cake on the way home and ate that and have now started on a packet of cranberry and orange M&S bikkies. Lost cause, me.

I'm sooooooooooooo strugling too TYG, I can't get on track, I had four really good weeks, lost 12lb and then lost the plot, I've put 4 back on since then and for the last 3 weeks have been yo-yoing 1 lb up 1 lb down etc..... Today is weigh in so I've started a fresh but I am giving into temptation far to easy. You'd think the fact that was paying for it would make me do it.

AM I'm not sure how I do it really. I don't think it's me to be honest. Mine have always been good sleepers, not sure why but I sure as hell know how lucky I am for it. You know my techniques they are the same as yours, why they work with some babies and not others I have no idea. Just a thought though, when Ella wakes in the night have you tried leaving her for a few mins? I know it's difficult as the fear of disturbing J must be a problem but Jorja often wakes in the night, snuffles around, put's her head up and down, winges for a moment or two but I only go to her if she really screams. 9 times out of 10 she just goes back to sleep.
Does Ella go to sleep unaided or are you involved in her falling asleep?

Scoot - having a good day then? Get yourself a large glass of wine and a slice of cake and fingers crossed the tooth comes out soon.

April sorry to hear Ella is waking a lot at night, how does she sleep during the day? Can she put herself to sleep without any help? As far as introducing more food, go with your instinct, if you think she is ready for more at, say, lunchtime give it a go. I've bought the Tommee Tippee bottle, some Aptamil and now I just need to remember how to sterilise everything!Going to give it a try tomorrow.

Bad day for sleep here too.. Only one catnap of 40 mins at 9.30 this morning, its my fault, I missed all his following I'm sleepy 'cues' and we were out and about so much that he couldn't be in his bed, poor boy, he's been an angel considering he has had no sleep.

TYG I had a giant enormous chocolate chip cookie, just to keep ds company and then forced the poor chap to go on a long walk with me to get rid of my guilt What did you see at the cinema? Does the noise not disturb the babbas? I have just discovered that one of our cinemas does a mum and babies showing and am interested..

Hi all,

well I think we are over the jet lag with A. I had forgotten how easy it is with them if you are going west but the east bit sucks.

The regular sleep day and night for us is still the same. A goes down brill at night but still wakes for a feed last night it was twice which I have to say is quite draining (my own fault really as I am still trying to catch up on the sleep I lost last week staying up till all hours on holiday and then having to be up at the crack of dawn with A). Daytime wise he seams to have sussed the morning nap going back down about an 1 1/2 after waking and then sleeping for nearly 2 hours. The rest of the day is a bit of a hodge podge as I refuse to be housebound with him so he naps in the car, buggy or baby bjorn. Invariably by 6 he is a nutcase as he is knackered but we are getting used the the mental hour as I like to call it before bath and bed.

Dont even go there with the diet, have half a stone to go but dont think I will loose it as I cant give up my chocolate, crisps, and cheeky KFC.

I am meant to be in detox this week..pah!That went out of the window at about half past five when I poured myself a stiff gin...

I dont think I have lost anymore weight at all, but havent weighed self for a while-I just dont look any different..but my theory is 9 months on, 9 months off...so suddenly come early next year I will suddenly scooch back down to a size 10

I must say L went down like a dream and t'other is currently asleep as well thank God!Have had my meal for one from M and S..(Crab linguine, v.nice)and am settling down now to football/Supernanny in a bit (hoping for tips)

I leave M for a bit when she wakes up in the night, but it is a bit of a risk as if the other one wakes up as well thats any sleep out of the window for the night as everyone ends up in bed together and Mummy gets pushed out of the end!
DH has just called to say how amazing Wembley is..you would think he'd have the sense not to rub it in..

Scoot enjoy your gin

AM I sarted Arlen on 2 meals after about 2 weeks - however he was no way ready for it, his milk intake dropped, which altho I didnt want him having 10 bottles like he was he was only really after 3 or 4, only did it for a couple of days and he is now still on one meal of savoury followed by sweet - some days he doesnt seem to need anything but milk, I would just trust your instincts

TYG There is a baby cinema day here too, only just found out about ot, might see if I can find some buddies to go with, dont really know anyone else round here with youngsters

OMG at this family on suppernanny - I love it, makes me look like Im doing a good job