Dec 06 - a new one for Indith and her rubbish dial up!

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New thread for our incessant chatter!

wb - it seems the osteopath = no pain no gain. I have a recurring shoulder problem too.

Aaah, Ds has had diorrhea (sp?) for 7 days now (well none today), took him to Docs Friday evening and they gave me diarolyte, he took about 3 oz of that Fri and promptly threw up, now is only drinking breastmilk and no diarolyte / water, but is having about half the breastmilk he normally had, had about 3 mouthfuls of porridge for breakfast, about 1 of banana mash for lunch, has spots on his tummy (only came up AFTER visiting the GP) and has thrown up Fri, Sat and Sat night-time (of course, also AFTER visiting the GP). Now he's not weed for 3 hours, his night nappy was a lot dryer than normal....
...Oh I just wish it was me going through this and not him. At least I can force myself to drink water!
On the plus side he did do some (quiet) playing and talking for a short bit this morning before becoming too tired.
I know at least he is having some milk, but the poor chap

Sacha, your poor LO If you're worried, ring the out of hours service, and make someone listen to you.

BP, Thanks, was considering calling the OOH Docs as they had suggested it on Friday if he got worse - an oh how he did today! 10 minutes after that post I ended up with a load of washing to do, another hour later another load of washing! and he had kept nothing down! But the rollercoaster of emotions feels okay now, he has had (a whole 2 tbsps of) baby rice for tea, perked up a bit, had a bath and had half a breastfeed before falling exhausted into his bed. So if he keeps this down for the night I feel tomorrow will be easier (Been feeling that for the last few nights now though ) and if he doesn't then will be off to the docs again tomorrow. Oh and spots have faded a bit.
It's heart wrenching when they are ill isn't it? Luckily dh has been home for the weekend and we have agreed he will come down here again next weekend rather than me and ds go up there.
I have a nice glass of wine in front of me, dh has rugby on and I am surfing mumsnet! Bliss

Poor little man Sacha. Don't think that you're bothering the OOH Doc. It's your son and you know him best.

I hope he's better real soon.xxxx

Hope your DS is better soon Sacha....

It's so nice to have this supportive thread.
He threw up and woke at 5.30 (coincidentally when dh was up but I could hear dh having breakfast downstairs!), had some milk, dh left at 6, ds slept 6.30-9, tried milk, promptly threw it up again, had diorhea just as we left to go see docs so we were late, then of course beamed at doc and played with his toy, and I was told he's unusually alert for a baby who has thrown up 3 times in 24 hours (make that 4 now, jus held him over kitchen sink mid post!) and that he seems okay, bring him back in a few days if he's no better. Grrr! Now thinking of not offering any milk for 24 hours (I'd have to express I guess, yearghh!) as doc reckons milk might be aggravating it. But milk is the only thing he is taking!
Right, I can also smell a nappy (sorry if TMI ) time to go....

Sacha

When DD2 was vomitting recently I gave her nothing for 4 hours after. Then she had sips of water for the next 4 hours. Then she had breast milk, then rice cakes.

I really cut the milk out for a while.

When we've been ill the stomach can get inflamed and milk can aggravate it (I think).

Thanks fgs, that advice is useful (now why couldn't the doc have said something like that rather than wishy washy )
he was weakly crawling on sofa and me and has fallen asleep mid crawl - very cute but I can't even reach the remote from here!

Sacha, I think FGS is right, when DS had gastroenteritis a couple of weeks ago the nurse practitioner told us dairy products can make sickness worse and told us to give half-strength formula for 24 hours after he was sick.
Good luck to you, it's not nice when they're ill

Sacha, so sorry to hear about ds's upset tummy. Hope he's doing better soon. Have you tried pedialyte?

I survived my first weekend away from ds2. I missed him quite a bit but even worse than that was the pumping For some reason the exclusive pumping overstimulated my milk production something terrible. I got home with two bowling balls on my chest and a whole cooler (the six pack size ones) full of bags of milk! I just knew I was going to have mastitis or at least blocked ducts but as soon as he nursed everything went back to normal Very weird...

btw, am keeping myself off active convos for a while, too.

Sacha, if you are bfing then that's the best thing for ds to have, tbh. It's so full of good stuff that it really won't adversely affect him - the antibodies in bm should help him fight off the bug. It may be that he's taking too much which is why he's sicking it up. I'd perhaps try offering him very short, frequent feeds and leaving off all solids and water until he's keeping bm down. I know I've been told by a GP that water can be harder to keep down than slightly sugary drinks and bm will give him a drink as well as a bit of nourishment. Hope the poor thing is better soon, you've both had a rough few days by the sound of it.

Jabber, how strange about the expressing. Do you think you were expressing more regularly or more volume-wise than he usually takes? My supply seems to adjust very fast these days, much quicker than in the early days. If he has a bad night and is feeding several times he's as satisfied as he is when he only has one feed and I don't feel any 'fuller'. It's a weird and wonderful thing, eh?

Absolutely. If you're giving anything other than BM, you need to include sugar. The OOH doc explained to me that the sugar 'bribes' your body into taking more than 2000% more fluid than straight water alone. That's why bigger people are told to drink flat coke or lemonade.

I became an honourary aunt today, as one of my oldest friends gave birth to a little girl. She's so far away, though! So that's my two oldest, dearest friends and me, all mums. When did we become the grown-ups? Of course, the best thing about having a rebellious youth is that people are always amazed when we manage to hold down responsible jobs, pay taxes, raise happy, healthy families ... Of course, we always knew that we were going to turn out just fine.

congrats bp! and lol at your rebellious youth

oli, I'm thinking that the pump was using more suction than ds2 does and got my breasts thinking that he was going on some kind of eating binge ?

Glad I'm not the only one with a rebellious youth behind me

I do wonder whether my DD's will be anything like me....

We finally have our first tooth!!

No biting as yet, but early days.

She also climbed the stairs at the weekend, getting steadier and steadier on her feet, am thinking it won't be many more weeks till she is walking That WILL be fun.

Oh Lor, are we talking rebellious youths?

Sorry to be missing so much - my turn for viral LOs, haven't had time to sneeze (thankfully) let alone get online. dd1 has chest infection and mild asthma and dd2 has streaming cold and a bottle of antibiotic sitting in fridge in case it turns nasty overnight.

I'm a touch paranoid given her early battles with RSV and her floppy larynx. In fact, as I've been discovering, I'm still a bit traumatized by all that...looking forward to getting past the anniversary of her illness, which come to think of it means its getting near to the anniversary of all our LOs births

Now there's a thought.

Now if dd2 doesn't wake/vomit again for ten minutes I can read some posts!

hullo all, sorry to hear of poorly babies once more. Yes, march on 1st birthdays and increased immunity (hopefully). Hope you get a good night Eli and don't need ab's. Did you ever get any counselling or so forth?
Can't believe the near-walkers OMG, ds2 content with 360's and a bit of backwards slithering. Thank goodness, cos I am so not babyproofed.
I have no sick children, so why am I so darned tired all the time! I went jogging on sat morning (followed the race for life plan for complete beginners) and still couldn't walk sunday. Trying to get more energy by exercising , going to first yoga class tomorrow night yay!
jabber, sounds painful, thought those days were over!

Blimey, AQ, good for you re the exercise - am impressed (and ) and not surprised yo'ure tired! Long term, you're bound to have more energy though, I'd think

Yes, I did have some counselling (was having some anyway, and used it for that too) and its helped - just by making me aware that its normal to be having feelings about it all now. I have talked it through again, with one or two people and dh - think I was just too 'frozen' by the fear/shock for ages to remember the details. I do trust that it'll pass in time, probably a few more months - we've postponed dd's naming party till the spring, by which time I think I'll feel a lot 'safer' about her not just having arrived, but staying, IYSWIM. Maybe that sounds a touch dramatic but from talking to friends who've had similar experiences, suspect its par for the course.

Sacha, hope your LO is all better now - that vomitting bug thats been going around sounds horrible. My neice's school was closed with it and worse when your LO is so L.

dd1 went back to school but was home by 10.30, so not quite ready...and dd2 is still streaming but no temp so hopefully will stay a cold and not go to her chest

On a much more flippant note, I managed to skim read posts (way back) on bras and am happy to say I've been uplifted by some new M&S purchases that make me look slimmer (I'm not) and younger. Me who spurned bras (in that rebellious youth of mine) now loves 'em

BP, what did you get up to? I'm feeling very nosey about your youth now

AQ - I'm doing pilates and aerobics weekly, I hope to fit more classes in, but I feel like I'm abandoning dds.

We got the keys to our new house. we've lots of decorating to do and you may find I disappear for a few weeks. We're moving our furniture next weekend.

Go you AQ!

Hope all the little people are getting over bugs and whatnot. (Eli, Sacha etc)

Can't believe Ds will be starting creche soon, all that time away from me! Still not got the expressing sorted, just won't happen. Grr. Ah well, lets look at it as a quick way of getting him down to 3 feeds a day

So tired! Ds still not sleeping and I am losing it! It is affecting him too I think, the past 2 days he has been exhausted. Yesterday he refused breakfast, shouted at me til we went out to baby group, slept all the way there. As soon as we got home he shouted again, had a tiny bit of lunch and went for an hour nap. Got up, went to Tesco then when we got home shouted again. So less than an hour after his nap he went back down for a second hour. After that it was dinnertime but he refused that and ended up going to bed early. Today has been pretty similar, been out more so less shouting but at home he has just screamed, slept and refused to eat. Not had much milk either.

Wow, AQ, I am really impressed. Not much exercise here, I'm afraid. And I taught a belly dance class until I was about 4 months pg with ds2 Just no time, or so it seems...

Indith, do you think it could be teeth? Mine have always complained quite a bit before any teeth broke thru.

I'm joining the sick baby club now. Ds1 and 2 have runny noses and ds2 woke up with a barky cough but it has improved during the day. We've gotten out the humidifiers and I'm going to mix up my special chest rub oil. Olive oil with a few drops each of lavender, tea tree and eucalyptus oil added in. I'm also putting oil in the humidifiers.

Hi Guys.

DD1 and 2 now both have colds meaning I am very tired today.

But..... I am wearing an underwired bra . Down to 2 breastfeeds a day so took the plunge so to speak. DD2 not impressed with milk any other time from a cup so giving plenty of yoghurts and cheese.

Oh all these poorly babaies , ds1 has a cold as do I so unwell baby with unwell mummy leads to miserable household

Dd4 has to have blood tests at the hospital, dh is there with her now She is only 4 and been really tired and poorly on and off for the last 6 months so they want to check her out.

I will try to catch up but may not get the chance so please don't think I am ignoring all your messages xx

aw magnolia, hope DD4 is ok.

hope they figure out what is going on, magnolia, so that she gets better soon.

sorry to hear you and fgs have joined the sick baby club. Both boys woke up coughing this morning and ds2 is wheezy which always scares me. The humidifiers did seem to help though. I'm going to rub them both down with my chest rub potion. Have to work today and I so hate being gone when they're sick