August 2007- More boys than girls? Our beautiful summer babies are arriving at last!

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Thought I'd start a thread to give somewhere for Jem, Washersaurus and Bresha to discuss their little ones and make all those of us waiting impatiently jealous!

Who will be next??????

Hersetta,

Its Carly, saw this and thought it was you. wondered why i hadnt heard from you and couldnt leave a message on your mobile - please call if i can do anything.

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Hersetta, you sound like you've had a terrible time. It must have been awful being separated from Caitlin.

If your Mum can't stay on would you be able to pay for some help, even if its for the short term I think you need all the help you can get!

That's awful Hersetta. You must have missed Caitlin like mad.

I feel like I've been shouting at dd all day. She's really been winding me up. She threw her wellington boot at ds's face earlier. I have no idea why but she knew it was wrong. For the first time last night I'd been thinking how good it would be to stay at home with the kids permanently. She's definitely changed my mind. I couldn't put up with her 24 x 7.

Hersetta, how horrible for you. Can your dp/dh get any parental leave/compassionate leave to help out? As the others said, draw in any favours, get someone to cook for you or get takeaways. You need to take your time and take it easy. Who cares if they look a bit grubby.

Constipation, try some boiled water.

hersetta - i hope you are starting to feel better. that must have been really scary and upsetting being away from LO.

gill - are you getting any time to spend with your DD just the 2 of you? i find that helps my DD1 and she doesn't act up as much, doesn't last for long but at least i don't have to keep telling her no/don't do that/stop it/do as you're asked for a wee while.

i had my 6 week postnatal check today - all well though have been given more iron tablets - yuck!

oh someones shouting for food!

Hersetta - you poor thing, hope you are on the mend now.

Just a quick post - haven't had ime to catch up on what you guys havebeen up to last week -

I had the holiday from hell in Cornwall. lovely weather, but Evie developed a skill at screaming all evening and has only been settling at 9.30 at night. In a caravan this is no fun.

DH blames me, says I cuddle her too much and thats why she won't settle alone. Mum says I feed her too much.. (?) I think she is in a bad routine of snacking and snoozing.

Yesterday she was awake from 9.00am til 1.30 pm, slept for 2 hours (me, in tears exhausted), then was awake from 3.30 til 10pm. She doesn't feed well, yet gains weight. I've had no milk for nearly 2 days through stress,. which doesn't help when she is screaming for food.

This is clearly penance for having such an easy first baby.

DH nealr yleft me on friday beore we came home, and frankly I wouldn't have cared if he'd gone. DS is being an utter shite, but who can blame him. Oh yes. DH also thinks Evie is a "horrible pain in the arse".

Rant over, off to find some anti depressants......

Thanks everyone for your good wishes. Am feeling so much better today - finished course of mega srong anti biotics which just made me feel sick all the time so am now feeling more like my old self. Cait and I even went for our first walk togther this afternoon - it was nice to be out in the fresh air.

My Mum went home today and DH has been warned he needs to step up and help out more around the house - he works for himself at home so he does have plenty of time to do a few bits and bobs for me.

Cait is still really contipated - only going once a day. My heart goes out to her when I see her straining so hard to go and she really cries. My mum suggested boiled water with a little tiny bit of sugar in which clears the problem within a couple of hours but doesn't seem to solve it long term. She likes the sugared water but turns her nose up and spits out normal boiled water.

Bagpuss - I do feel for you. We think we are making a rod for our own back as Cait likes to fall asleep on you before she settles in her moses basket and can sometimes take 2 hours to settle after a feed which means only 2 hours of sleep at night before she's up demanding more food.

Hersetta, so sorry to hear what you have been through. Glad to see things are getting back on track now though.

Bagpuss sorry your holiday wasn't great. I hope things pick up for you soon. DS1 was one of those babies who would cry all evening and take ages to settle. It did get better eventually after many tears from myself. He settled down eventually and following a strict bedtime routine worked wonders for him.

DS2 is a lot easier ...so far but I have been co-sleeping with him and letting him fall asleep when feeding. After a bad night last night with him I have gone out today and bought the cot mattress and will start putting him to bed and getting him to settle on his own. He woke with terrible wind last night at about 3ish and would not go back to sleep I think I eventually nodded off just before 6 but DS1 is up at 7 and we then have to get ready for school.

oh dear Hersetta, so sorry for you. I hope you're feeling a lot better each day. Stay in your pj's as much as possible and make sure dh gets used to doing as much as needs doing around the house.

Don't get me started on dad's not making themselves useful in the house...!

bagpuss- I feel for you. i've been tied to a screaming baby too, so haven't been online or talked on phone to anyone for that matter in ages.
I took Mila to gp today as I'm convinced she has a reflux problem. Since first days home she's had a fractious 7 - 11pm or 12 of feeding and crying, falling asleep in our arms and waking up after 2 mins in bed. The last few days she's extended this from 10am - 6pm and then screamed in pain for 3 or more hours, lots of wind/ farts and constipation. As she's not feeding enough I'm getting engorged again and scared my supply will reduce.
i'm telling you all this in case Evie is similar. Anyway, gp prescribed infant gaviscon. Mila's been asleep 2 hours in her bed, first time in a week - hence I'm on here!
I've only kept sane by giving her to dp as often as possible and suggesting he dance and rock and sing and massage etc. I'm praying that tonight will be better.
But turn a deaf ear to those negative comments, you're instinctively doing your best for your lo.

Sounds like there are a few tough times going on all round and am thinking of you all with big fingers crossed that things settle down. I've just had Paddy weighed today and he's lost weight somehow. He's now 8lb 7oz which is one ounce more than birth weight. At four weeks old I'm thinking this ain't great !! No idea what's caused it as he feeds well, sleeps well and is generally happy and contented. I often have to wake him up to feed him so how he's lost all the weight I can't imagine.

Someone come on and tell us something lovely as am a bit down now !

HI all,

TT _ im sure everything is fine with paddy, he will have a major jump all of a sudden x

Hersetta - sorry you have had such a rough time! Hope you are feeling better now!

GBP - poor you , do hope evie manages to sought herself out, and you get a bit of rest, my DS1 was also an easy baby and i know it this time round! I think its because we are so busy doing other stuff we notice when they wont settle more

Itchy- also have had a crying babe at times, so when he is asleep i have to do all the things that i need to catch up on!
well what a shit time we are all having, sorry TT its tough here too! Absolute knacked, lo is up at 12, 3 then 6 and after have feed him i have to get up to get ds1 dresses and ready for school!

Dh is also being really hard, not really wanting to do the night feeds, but he will, then moan the whole next day about being tired and having to go to work!! yea like my day is easy!
Then after a mad 2 hours here dh gets home late from work, gets changed and buggers of to table tennis for 3 hours!!!
Also my Stitches STILL havent healed and i now have an infection and am on antibiotics! ( am still sitting here with a glass of red wine! )
After Tate not settling tonight i had ds1 in tears saying he didn't want a brother as we were meant to be playing a game but i couldn't, due to having crying child
I think lack of sleep is catching up with us all!

Hope everyone has a better couple of days xxx

my2weegirls - I'd been thinking that might be the reason so I've asked my mum to have ds for a couple of hours a couple of days a week so I can take dd swimming or to the park.

bagpuss - sorry to hear you're having such a bad time. If you want some help/a break I can drop my dc's off at my mum's and come down to you. You're not that far away from me. CAT me if you're interested.

Glad to hear you're feeling better Hersetta. Put a post on one of the other forums about constipation. I'm sure people will have lots of suggestions.

TT - something nice? I think ds smiled the other day when I was stroking his face. Even my mum (who I would expect to tell me 'don't be silly, it's just wind) said she thought he was going to smile on Saturday. Are you going to share the nappy rash cure?

thanks for all the suport guys.

I worked really hard yesterday, getting her to sleep and feed more regularly - she wasn't much better, but we did have a civilised meal well, with her in the car seat being rocked!!

I will look into the reflux thing - she certainly fits teh symptoms.

Evie is smiling too, she had quite a chuckle this morning, but to be fair that might have been wind!

morning - i'm starting to wonder if my wee one is getting a bit constipated too. lots of straining with nothing appearing. here's a link (i hope) to another thread on constipation with some ideas www.mumsnet.com/Talk/138/357670?o=1190189192838 if bottle feeding then aptimal appears to have a lesser iron content than other formulas.

bagpuss- big hugs. i was always told that when babies are this wee you can't spoil them with hugs! mine in currently snuggled up on my chest and they don't stay this small for long so enjoy and do what feels right for you and her.

gill - that's good your mum will take ds - it reaaly is worth getting time together as it's so nice not to have a couple of hours not feeling stressed or shouting at the older one. my DD1 has taken a fascination to DD2's eyes and keeps trying to touch them so i can't leaved them alone for 2 seconds.

TT - some nice stuff from me LO is doing great big smiles, lots of agooo's and even a couple of squeals of delight. it's lovely! and my DP so far has been an obsolute star (taking his turn doing night feeds even when working the next day, taking DD1 out, even doing some housework!

apologies for all the spelling mistakes!

I'm also in the not sleeping club! DD started sleeping through at 5 weeks think I'll be lucky if ds2 sleeps through at 5 yrs! He also seems to be a snacker/cat napper. As have never BF before not sure how to extend the feeds - we used to twist the bottle in LOs mouth to get them to keep sucking (not an option with BF!). He still hasn't spent a night in his crib - he'll be fast asleep until the moment his back touches the sheet.

DDs stories of school are keeping me going - looking forward to what she comes home with every night. We are not at all religious and she's started at a catholic primary so god is a bit of a novelty. So far we've had can god hear me when I talk to him on the loo?, Why didn't jesus make me be able to hop?, God made the world then he decorated it (shame he didn't make it as far as out kitchen )

Hersetta - glad you're feeling better. Sounds like a really hard start to being a mum.

oh, hersetta
so sorry to hear you had such rough time, im so glad you are back home,im sure you missed caitlin. is she still constipating, my mil also recommended water with brown sugar, but we only use water. its always best to offer water nefore feed, otherwise they dont have much water when full.
gbp, i know how you feel like, i always feel blamed for holding ds, feeding him not in routine.and etc..
ds now 11lbs 5oz, putting almost pound in a week. sleeps during day not night. a little colicy in the evenings.
dh is off holiday next week, so looking forward having full night sleep.
btw, do the boys tend to wee one side? we got nappy leak into the left a few times.
having had dd, find it strange.

Haven't got much time to post as should be dressing the children, but Loler have you tried taking LO off the nipple and winding? It seems to work for DD. She will then burp, wake up a bit and have more.

I find changing DD's nappy, or removing some clothes help[s wake her up and get her to feed more. Also maing sure she has a good break between feeds helps as she is more rested, and feeds better. Tell me - nosey I know - was ff a choice for your first 2? or did it just happen that way?

We didn't have a much better evening, but she ahs settled herself off for a snooze again this mornng, so it is looking promising. At least my milk supply has reutrned, so I am obviously less stressed. DD likes her FF in the vening though. last night she screamed until she got it! wasn't interested in what I had to offer!!

Hi all. Colic/wind is really rubbish, isn't it? Was just reading in a book that they reckon it could be psychological (meaning a stressy baby). Bollocks, it is! I can hear and feel her stomach fermenting, then she gets v screamy and obviously in pain as opposed to discomfort before finally getting relief in the early hours by farting/pooing steadily.

Why isn't there a cure? Gah! Have tried Infacol, winding and massage and none of it works for her. When she doesn't have it she's the sunniest baby, but when the wind builds up, I'm helpless. Reckon the only answer is to try and detatch from the situation and do the standard set of things to try and distract her. It's v hard when you can't pass the baby on to anyone. Bagpuss - I really feel for you reading your post the other day. The one thing that stops her crying is to put her in the car seat and swing it from one hand - but it knackers your arm after a few mins!

Anyway, just thought I'd post that so you mums with the crying babies don't feel alone - there are loads of new babies with it. Apparently it peaks at 6 weeks and then tends to go at 3 months, not that it helps us knowing that at the moment.

Oh - and I reckon the Huggababy sling is the single best thing I've bought. Def means I can get out of the house quickly, plus I use it round the house to settle her. Baby bath is the most useless as the plug didn't work and leaked!

Hey Annie, have you tried giving your lo gripe water after a feed? infacol is preventative, gripe water will make the wind come back up. James is suffering too, I can hear the wind rolling around inside him. Walking upstairs with him on my shoulder helps, he almost always burps.

If your baby loves being swung about in her carseat, then you positively NEED a fisher price takealong swing (there are loads cheap second hand on ebay ) they're fantastic. We got ours off freecycle, it has 8 swinging speeds, flashing lights, music and dangly toys, James falls fast asleep in it (I padded it with my old dressing gown which he also loves)

hiya,

ach not much better here either, although Mila actually been asleep 1 hour in hammock.. scared even to write that in case it tempts fate and wakes her.

annie, agree completely, can hear/ feel bubbling etc in poor wee girl's tum and she'll scream and be much calmer after farting so no doubt the trapped gas is painful. she has no trouble burping though and i'm not sure at all if she really has reflux. she does seem bit calmer since gaviscon but we started infacol same time so hard to know which is helping more.

i keep reading about foods esp dairy affecting my milk, but i don't eat a great deal of dairy and my diet seems be solely all foods should avoid. I'm so tempted to try ff. but don't really want to esp as we're returning to zanzibar and bf is ideal. and with all her fretting and fighting on and off breast I'm not suprised she's swallowing a ton of air

and poor girl has bcg vaccination today. best rush to shower before she wakes up

Ooh, thanks, Banana. Just realised that a friend offered me one but didn't really know what she meant. I'll snap it up then! You've done v well from Freecycle - am impressed! No, haven't tried gripewater - does that help? My instinct is that it isn't actually caused by air she's swallowing - it feels more like she's making it inside her, like when we have an upset stomach. I think that's where the confusion happens as the healthcare worker and doc keep talking about bringing up her wind, but I honestly don't think that's the cause. She sounds like I did when I got dehli-belly in India - bubbly gut and then explosive farts and poos (though they're always yellow). Itchy - am starting to wonder the same thing - whether she's reacting to something in my milk. But yes, I'd stick with bf if I were you as your baby will get your immunity all the while you're feeding which is prob important as she acclimatises. Hey, good luck with the vaccination today - am dreading those!

Thanks for the tips - had a really good night last night, he went 2 lots of 3 1/2 hours (good for him!). Although he was feeding constantly from 9 - 10.30.

GPB - ff the other 2 mainly because I couldn't stand the pain! lasted 2 days with dd, 5 days with ds1 - before I had ds2 I went to see a BF councellor and worked out what went wrong. 23 days later must be doing something right as not had any pain! I completely understand how Gill felt giving up and still find myself justifying why I ff - weird isn't it, no-one else really cares.

Annie - gripewater is meant to relax the muscles (?) so the intestines don't churn so much. I found it did help ds1 - the wind went down not up!

Itchy - good luck with the jabs - when do you go back?