The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #2

[Angelmiracle]

Thread 2 for all our newborns ❤🤗👣

@melissa112 I don't really know but I've found M to be very fussy feeding recently and the last few days has been feeding for a lot less time throughout the day (breastfed though so literally no clue how much he's actually had)

I would've thought he'd want to feed more as it's been hot but he seems to think otherwise! He's been quite tired though (maybe due to the heat) so hasn't wanted to feed for long as he gets a bit cranky. We introduced the dreamfeed so that I'd know he'd taken a decent amount. I do wonder if its spurt related - tired and cranky?

Speak to the HV but try not to worry, as long as he's having plenty of wet nappies and is content enough then he won't starve if you're offering a bottle. Also you could try sod's law - only make a 5oz bottle and you can almost guarantee he'll drain it and you'll have the dilemma of whether to make up an extra feed or not!

@BadBadBeans thanks for that,
I'm going to make an appointment with this doctor sometime midweek then have a good think and chat with OH. Few have my friends have baby's quite close in age and they've said it is hard but also easier and manageable. With them being so close in age they're still in "baby mode" so used to the tiredness etc.

Thanks @melissa112 I'm really hoping it is just the warm weather we're having.
My little one very rarely finishes a full bottle, she only had 5oz one feed then a couple of hours later maybe another 2-4oz. Also I don't wind her half way through anymore just do it when she's finished.
Regarding sleep, yep we've also been having some fun nights, she's been taking a while to settle then will wake up in the night a couple of times fussing for her dummy. Some mornings she's also been waking between 4.30-5.30 and staying awake. Day time naps are a struggle as well, she really kicks up a fuss till she eventually tires herself out and falls to sleep. So yep think we have the sleep regression to!

@melissa112 yes little E is feeding much less these past few days (he's ebf). Ever since his second lot of jabs he decided he didnt want me to hold him while feeding so now I always have to feed him lying down which is a pain because he decides to roll away and start chatting lol. It's like he knows he is supposed to go to sleep too and he is rebelling lol. He's been a bit of a nightmare all week tbh. Fighting sleep, fighting feeds, generally a Grumpy Gus. Needs held all the time too. There are 2 people in this household with broken backs because let's face it, he isn't light lol

Also @Kee80 a friend of mine, who also recently had a baby, and I were talking about how we feel like we're going through the menopause because of our constant hot sweats and mood swings so it's definitely normal in that respect. I would have thought our hormones would have settled by now but nope!

@Brobot thank you, that's made me feel a little better about things

I hope your Sunday evenings have been better than mine. LO has been screaming in temper all night and about half an hour ago I had just about had enough of him and said to DH that he was getting on my nerves now. So DH said he'd take him and get him to sleep. As soon as I passed him over he settled pretty much immediately and fell asleep after a few minutes.
I feel like such a shit mum now because i was actually annoyed by my own son and he could obviously tell and that's why he was unsettled. ☹️

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever definitely not a shit mum, these babies are hard work. He was probably just overtired or generally grumpy so being hard work which stressed you (as I'm sure has happened to all of us!). You did the right thing passing him over although it is soooo annoying when they then just settle for dad - it's hard not to take it personally. But just think of all the times you've settled him and I'm sure he'll be back to needing his mum as soon as he wakes up. Enjoy a bit of peace while he's sleeping 🙂

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever that has happened to me loooads of times! It's so annoying but at the same time at least it stopped him lol. My little boy always gives me grief and then puts on all the angelic smiles when my hubby gets home 🤣🤣 little traitor lol

And try to find just ONE mum who hasn't been annoyed by their child before lol. It comes with the territory... as does guilt 🙄

Me again lol. Speaking of being a shit mum, I had an Indian for dinner and I think it has upset little E's tummy 😩😩😩😩. I feel awful. He's whimpering in his sleep 😭😭😭

@kee80 this is what my friend said about getting up in the night etc - it is crazy for a time but then it's all done. She and her husband basically just assign themselves a child apiece to be responsible for each night!

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever don't feel bad, we really have all been there. Tomorrow is another day and the babies don't even remember yesterday so it's all good!

@Brobot Eating spicy foods while you are breastfeeding won't upset your baby's tummy. Google it and you will see! Think of all the mums who eat curries every day because it's their culture! I regularly eat madras-level hot curries and have never had a problem. It's just a coincidence. So you can stop feeling guilty right now!

@BadBadBeans it's not the spice, it's the evil little onions! Lol

@kee80 my little one is thrashing atm too. Had to resort to swaddling again in a light sheet as for the last week she's been waking constantly like yours @Jenlou1992. It's worked though, she only woke once last night which is a first!

@Brobot we have a fairly dark living room and blackout curtains in the bedrooms so the light hasn't been a problem. Do you have any darker corners?

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever don't worry too much about it. It won't be the last time it happens and they always know exactly how to push our buttons as they get older. I think there's a famous saying that goes something like, "I love my kids. I don't like them much, but I do love the little bastards."

@BadBadBeans that's what we've said , if we decide to have another quite close then we will have to have a child each for a few months!

@HidCat I will give that a try. Saying that she wasn't to bad last night, took about 10 mins to settle her. She did wake at 5 am smiling but gave her a cuddle and she's still asleep now.

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever your not a shit mum at all! I was the same a couple of nights ago, had to take her down to OH, I was really getting stressed and she went straight to sleep for him. He then said can't believe you got frustrated with her poor baby!
That really wound me up, I said in future you put her to bed every night then and get up with her every morning! He soon shut up!!

@kee80 @AssumeItWasSomethingClever I do that nearly every night! 🤣 I take him up to bed and an hour later i come down and hand him over to hubby with an exasperated look on my face 🤣🤣. Anybody that doesn't get frustrated is either a saint.. or lying lol

Thanks everyone for the reassurance!
So god I'm not alone!!

@AssumeItWasSomethingClever oh you are completely normal believe me! These babies can test the patience of a saint. When you're dealing with all these leaps and changes and then going back to sleep deprivation (another one here experiencing the sleep regression!) it's hard!

On the sleep regression front, my LO decided to wake up at 3:30 this morning and have a lovely long chat 😭 I very nearly got him back to sleep then put him down and he started crying loudly (didn't want to wake my OH) so ended up taking him downstairs, changing his bum then feeding him at 4am. Felt like we were back in the newborn days! @melissa112 we've got a bit sporadic on the feeding front the last few days aswell. Remember I said I had to up the feed to 8oz because he's been draining? Well now we've got lots of fussing and leaving a good 3oz in some bottles! I think it's sleep regression and development leaps. Who knows, I'm winging it mainly!

So we are in the throes of the sleep regression. Last night he fought sleep like mad. He did his usual 45 minutes and then didnt go back down for another 4 hours! Also he slept a lot yesterday and drank me dry! Don't think I've ever seen him feed that much. I almost expected him to be a foot taller this morning as it's clear that a growth spurt is in the post. How is everyone getting on with their little ones?

I think we're having the sleep regression as well. Difficult to say as he was already a crappy sleeper. But his fighting of the naps is a bit different, so I'm guessing that's why.
We managed two naps in the cot on Sunday, and we thought we might be able to continue with that during the week, but it's been a huge failure so far and we're back to falling asleep on the boob
I just wish I knew what's bothering him. Is he hungry? Teething? Tummy hurts (day 6 with no poop again)? Growth spurt? Sleep regression? Heat? Who knows?!

@Sheeni yes my lo only falls asleep on my boob too. It's a lot of pressure! Also, he went 5 days there without a dirty nappy. He used to do about 4 a day and then one day he stopped and it changed to every 3-4 days. I think it's normal for bf babies. You cant help but worry that he's constipated though.. but then it arrives and the countdown starts again lol

@Sheeni when you say you managed 2 naps in the cot, was that after feeding to sleep? Or did your little one just fall asleep in the cot? I dream of the day I can just put mine down and he puts himself over to sleep. I can't see how I will ever be able to leave him with my mum or anyone without them having to walk around with him for ages to settle him.

Sleeping is also not really happening here either... Makes me realise how good we had it when it's gone! You'll all hate me but we were those people who could just leave their baby awake in bed, shut the door and you could be pretty sure he'd be asleep within 10 mins... Not any more!

@ballanj mine also now wakes up at 3.30am ish and has a 30+ min chat to himself. I'm not really sure what to do about it as he's not crying or needing anything so I just leave him to it but also unsure if that's the best idea as I don't want him thinking that it's ok to chat at 3.30am?! It bothers husband more than me though! From midnight until 4/5 he's awake more than he's asleep, but this has only been for the last week before that it was just the day time naps that he was fighting but slept well at night.

I don't want to feed him every time he wakes up just to shut him up or change much from our usual routine as I don't want him to get sleep associations he's never had previously, but then I don't know if I'm expecting too much and just to let it go a little. Thoughts?

(Sorry to all those who are really struggling as I appreciate that my issues are no where near as bad [I don't mean that in a nasty way] so I shouldn't complain)

We're sleeping and feeding badly here. The other night I did a dreamfeed at 8:30pm and then again when I went to bed at 10 to make sure he had enough milk. He feeds lovely when he's asleep but just pulls on and off during the day and I'm so worried he's not getting enough.

Then last night he had such a long dreamfeed at 8:30 that I didn't bother when I came up to bed. I've got a bad back (from sleeping badly I think) and spent over an hour trying to get to sleep then he woke up before I'd even nodded off so fed him again. I'm tempted to try just rocking him back to sleep during the night instead of feeding all the time but then I figure he's having a growth spurt and is so unsettled, I'd rather feed him just incase that's what he needs.

Anyway, was gone midnight by the time I was going to sleep and then was up at half 5 for another feed. After he'd finished there wasn't time to go back to bed before we had to get up for the day anyway.

And he's gone back to only napping on me during the day so none of this "nap when baby naps" rubbish going on here.

Sorry to hear everyone else seems to be going through the same. If they call it the 4 month sleep regression then it has to be done before they're 5 months old - right??

We're having same problems with sleep! She's taking about 20-30 mins to settle in bed at night around 10pm when before she would go straight down. Then she wakes around 5am wanting to play, she's in the next to me crib so just put my arm around her and she goes back most of the time till about 7-7.30. Day naps are really non existent, she will only sleep by me rocking her and when I put her down she wakes after about 30 mins. If I'm lucky she will have a 2 hour nap around 4 but not today!!

Ladies who had a c-section are any of you suffering from lower backache and the feeling like your due on in lower stomach?