The March-ers 2019 - Baby Talk #1

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Congratulations to all the mamas with their new babies 🌸

Now the fun really starts 😄

@toastfiend - baby boy - 28/01/2019
@TheWanderlust - Baby girl - Althea - 7lb6oz - 16/02/2019
@PurpleFlower1983 - Baby girl - Matilda - 17/02/2019
@Wineandchoccy - Baby girl - Lois - 6lb12oz - 19/02/2019
@Harley8888 - Baby boy- Logan - 7lb4oz - 01/03/2019

@SquirtlesMumAgain it sounds a lovely birthday. Hope feeding improves once dd tongue tie is cut when E had it cut at 6 weeks the improvement was pretty much straight away and she started gaining weight, latch improved and I wasn’t sore

@wineandchoccy did she ever pretty much stop latching and then carry on again after the tongue tie was cut? I'm scared my LO is losing the ability to BF and just wants the formula bottle.

@Gronk27 yes it was frustrating but once it was cut I breastfed until she was 1 with no issues

@wineandchoccy that’s really reassuring thank you x

Need some advice . My baby was inconsolable crying last night from about 3am till about 8am . I think it was trapped wind. Knees were to chest . She would latch and nurse for a few seconds then burst into a cry again . Nothing would settle her . Bum was clean . All the usual checks . I'm going to get some infacol . Just wondered if anyone had similar experience with the inconsolable crying . It was so distressing I didn't know what to do . We drove around in the car for 2 hours which 90% she settled for but still had a bout of that horrible cry ..I felt so useless

@Jenlou1992 we had this - Infacol has been a dream. Trust me. I think some of it is a slight placebo effect because you persevere more at winding knowing something is going to come up but I'd still recommend it. He still has some episodes of where you know he's got wind - but the pained cry isn't there

@whatalearningcurve thank you . It was so awful . I cried . She screamed I just felt so helpless . She seems to be ok at the minute but I'm guessing it's a build up over the day . Got the infacol so will see how I am tonight.

@Jenlou1992 honestly. We were the same. I think it's because they're held more during the day so it affects them more at night when they're on their backs

@jenlou1992 we had this exactly as you describe Adela was hungry as she has a tongue tie and wasn’t getting enough milk from the breast not sure how old your LO is whether you’ve been weighed yet. We resorted to formula and the midwife was pleased we had because otherwise we would have been admitted back to hospital. I’m it saying you should give formula but get some breast feeding advice or advice to check LO is having enough milk. Otherwise colic or wind sounds like a good shout.

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@Jenlou1992 that must have been awful! Hat off to you for coping with that! What changed at 8am? Did she poop/fart/burp? Our longest cry so far has been about an hour and it was poop/fart. I sat him upright on my knees so gravity can help and I also felt it helped him when he held my fingers while he squirmed and tried to push. Also little bit of gentle massage - just very soft circles on his stomach and a bit of leg pedalling.
Might not work for you, as obviously I have no idea what's actually going on with your little one, but in any case I hope you'll soon find something that works!

Not sure what changed at 8am . She did have a small poo and just not sure if it had eased off . I did the bicycle legs and all the winding positions. I've nursed today in a more upright position . And winded her for a long time afterwards and small burps are coming up . So hoping this helps . She's 6 days old . Got weighed yesterday . Her birth weight was 7lb 1.75 ounces and yesterday she was 7lb so she had lost barely anything so midwives are happy with her feeding etc . She has regular wet and dirty nappies ..this is my first and honestly motherhood is so hard ..hormones and worrying . I hated seeing her like that and I've been getting maximum 2hours sleep a night so you can imagine my head wanting to fall off . This group is very good and I thank you all for input. Xx

@jenlou1992 you're not useless, you've just got a (useless) newborn who can't do anything for herself or tell you what's wrong so they just cry... Sometimes for literally no reason, as you'll likely find out.

We also started using infacol although didn't do it every feed, and just so you know it apparently takes a few days to work so don't be put off if the same crying happens tonight. We've stopped using it now as he seems to be able to wind himself better (he's one month now) but in week 1-3 it helped. You've also said she'd constantly feeding. We've realised that he mostly wants the sucking rather than milk and was making himself even more windy due to sucking so hard. We started using a dummy yesterday (you're apparently not supposed to until week 4 if you're breast feeding as it can confuse them) and he's been much more settled this last 24 hours but could just be a coincidence. Before using dummies we put our fingers in his mouth to suck which helped.

Also what I've learned over the last month isctbst there will be periods when they just cry for no reason, particularly in the evening/at night and you've just gotta ride it out.

Offer a clean little finger, pad up, and see if it helps. Often they just need to suck to clear the wind/discomfort and adding milk confuses things.
DD often has that problem and sucking just helps her settle, along with a good cuddle

@jenlou1992 not feed then! Bless you. It’s so hard when they can’t tell us what’s wrong.

@Jenlou1992 oh bless you. First time mum here and had exactly the same as you. Inconsolable crying and terrible wind. It's so hard isn't it when you're doing and trying everything and feel like nothing is working. That, haywire hormones and no sleep, you have my full sympathies.

After this exact same thing I picked up infacol the next day on advice of midwife and it's been a game changer for us personally. Can actually hear the wind coming up. I also try and keep him upright after feeds as long as possible and wind part way through feeds as well. The infacol may take a day or so to build up in their system but it's good to know that you can use it as much as you need. For us, we've been using with every feed and he seems much happier as a result.

I hope you manage to get some more restful, less fraught evenings with your little one.

Thanks everyone for your advice. I have been using infacol before feeds today. Only small burps coming up but more than before . She has been settled today but was already settling before I give the infacol . I'm just apprehensive about the night shift as this is when she's awake as well. How is everyone else's sleep patterns . Rose will feed and sleep after feeds for roughly 1 -3 hours and then feed and repeat ..till about midnight when she's awake till about 5am . Obviously she doesn't know night from day but I'm hoping once I'm out and about with her then her body clock will change and she will be awake more in the day and sleep more at night . I don't mind being awake with her at night as long as she doesn't have that scream again ..So anxious..It scares me . Thanks again for all the support on here x

Good luck @jenlou1992 I'll probs be around until 5ish too as we are similar. From about 4/5am he's fine for about 12 hours and then as evening hits he gets grumpy, then from 11ish till 4/5am it's v hit and miss. On a good night he might sleep for an hour or two but generally he's either feeding constantly (mostly just to suck) or crying, or both and then when it gets to around 5ish it's as if someone had flipped a switch so we need to get his body clock altered by around 5 hours... Move to the East Coast of the USA?!

@cardboard33 how is your night? Rose had a feed at midnight and woke at 3am doing that same scream / cry she did the night before at exactly the same time. I tried to nurse her as she was due and altho she was latching she just kept breaking out into a cry . So I didn't panic or get distressed I just tried my best to comfort her . Skin to skin . Lots of cuddles . Winded her and rocked her . I rocked her in my arms standing and she eventually fell to sleep at around 4am. She is currently still lay on me. This is much more successful than last night as it took hours to settle her . So does this mean the infacol is working ? Or is this not wind? Is she just crying . It's strange how it's at exact same time as the night before x

Jenlou1992 the routine you described of baby being awake all night sounded just like my little one at that age! She’s now 3 weeks and started sleeping better at night from 1 week so hopefully you’ll be having a bit more sleep soon. The wind is such a hassle, just spent the last hour getting her settled. No crying as such but she’s grunting and straining away so loudly, clearly uncomfortable! We find bicycle legs and the sitting up burping position help us but it’s such a guessing game sometimes isn’t it.

@lovelyfishy Fingers crossed she sleeps more at night . She's officially a week old today. Although the nights seem long the week has flew by. Learning so much every day. Motherhood is a tough journey. The wind is a nightmare . It really upsets them. And us as mummies x

Is anyone else using a Pur Flo nest and are you using it for overnight?

Also, if we’re feeding formula is a feed at 9/10 then one at 1/2 and one 5/6 enough in the night. She’s very sleepy (sorry Mom’s struggling with this-it’s since she stopped breastfeeding properly) so we’re waiting longer and longer for her to wake up.

@Gronk27 when the midwife signed me off at day 12 - she said we could go to demand feeding because he'd put weight on and was over his birth weight after the initial drop. Our feeds are similar to yours and I'm getting him weighed today to make sure it is okay and we don't need to go back to times ones because he definitely seems to be eating less now. However he is also getting truly chunky so I think it's fine. I think that's the only way you can go off it

Weird moan here.
My mom came to visit last night (after I broke down and invited her even though we didn't initially want grandparents visiting in the first month). She brought an old-school swaddle she used for me and my siblings and swaddled our LO in it. He slept in his basket. Through the night (with 3-hourly feeding/changing). I'm happy, obviously, but also annoyed as my mom is now so smug. And keeps offering outdated advice. 😐

@Gronk27 is baby gaining weight ok? Our midwife said we don’t need to wake baby for feeds. (She usually wakes on her own anyway). She is still sleeping from last feed 6 hours ago! I’m worried I’ve left her so long, but I also know she will make up for it!

@Sheeni definitely a mum thing. I was in tears the other day when my mum said I didn’t have enough layers on baby. I think they used to keep babies too warm.
Just enjoy the extra sleep 😊 and don’t talk about it too much with her lol xx