************DECEMBER 2006 - PART 3 ****************

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I was brave and started a new thread!

LML, I use a tummy tub, which theoretically can accomodate a 12 month old baby. DD2 isn't a great fan of the bath, but she does settle in the tummy tub fairly quickly - and it gives her legs loads of exercise.

Indith, I remember nights like that Bet you feel fantastic!

Excellent News Margo
Judemum, sounds awful
BP, Glad your neighbour is getting the help she needs x
Indith at the sleep!!!! But pleased for you all the same

Everyone else: We are the biggest natterers going you know! Can you imagine if we do all meet up, will have to bring the dh's so we have time to natter while they watch the kids

Ds1 is being a pain in the arse every 2-3 hrs in the night! I gave in last night and put him on his tummy and he slept till 2am. Of course I didn't sleep coz I kept watching him

His favourite thing at the moment is laying on the floor naked
Being the 1st boy, the girls are fasinatied that he has a will

Of course I mean willy

Oh yes magnolia naked is good. Ds has also been watching my pathetic attempts at juggling with fascination today.

After his last feed I expressed a few mls of milk into his doidy cup and held it for him tipping it so the milk was touching his lips. Aftr a couple of tmes he grabbed it off me, stuck it in his mouth and tipped! Most of it went down his chin but he's learning!

Hmm - thanks for the advice - think we might need to just go for the big bath option then and not worry too much about the water. We don't bath dd every day and if she's going to grow out of it quickly a baby bath might just be a waste of money. Would you use a bath support e.g. one of those shaped pieces of foam or shaped plastic things or just use a bath mat to stop the baby sliding around?

Indith - I've just bought a doidy cup too - dd just looks a bit bemused when I hold it to her lips but I have only put water in it so far because I was worried about spills. Will have to put a bib on her and try with ebm.

It is good fun! So far not given him much, just hand express a tiny bit right after a feed to play with. Of course at some point I'll have to get my act together and express properly to give as a feed.

Indith - so at the sleep! The best we've managed isgetting up once but it is generally 2 or 3 times.

bp - glad the neighbor is getting help. That was a bad situation for evreyone.

eli - glad the trip went well. Too bad the passport didn't arrive in time

Dh out of town for a few days. I may try to go hardball on the sleep training while he's gone as I'll be up a lot anyway

LittleMiss nice to see you back. You might find a fabric bath support really useful (from mothercare, they're about 8 quid) and save your back, but the best thing is to get in the bath with them, they love that. We're hanging out until ds2's old enough to go in one of those suction seats castles mentioned.

Meant to post the link to the fabric thingy from mothercare, it's here

Thanks for the link - there is a mothercare near my parents so I'll have a look next weekend when I visit.

Sorry to barge in so late 'n' all - my DD was born in December too! I have used this since the day she was born and it's utterly brilliant and also suits them as they get older.....

Oh gosh, that's dreadfully sad. Do you know what happened? Oh dear. I don't know what to say.

How awful Words seem so inadequate in the face of such a loss.

Oh Lucy how awful I do look at mine and thank my lucky stars I have never had to go through anything like that. To be so far away from them must make it really hard xxxx

lucy5 . that is terrible news. My heart goes out to your SIl and the family.

OH Lucy, just popped on and seen your message. I'm so sorry, can't say anything of use really, but sending lots of love and thoughts to you and your family.

I've been looking at my 3 a lot recently too and thinking how lucky I am. I read so many things on here about people losing children, then there's the Maddie McCann thing all over the news and I just can't imagine what they go through. I find myself just hoping that my luck holds out and I have never have to be the one who's turn it is.

Hi all thanks for you kind replies. I have had the post deleted as I posted names and locations etc on it. At this moment I have very few details as to why my neice was stillborn. I just keep looking at my kids and crying. It is such a terrible thing to happen to someone and I think when you have a small baby yourself, it just brings it a bit closer to home. Thanks again, Lucy xxx

Lucy - Didn't see the message but it's so sad about stillbirths.

It happened to my aunts SIL.

Lucy, I didn't see the message either, but I'm so sorry for you and your family.

Oh Lucy, I'm so very sorry. What an enormous shock and loss - its not something I know much about, but looking at my kids, and knowing how I felt when dd2 was so ill, I can maybe begin to imagine. Hugs to you, and my thoughts and condolences to your family

Didn't see the message Lucy but sorry there has been a stillbirth in your family. We've had a few in ours. You go through the whole pg, birth, have all the hormones, milk but no baby in your arms. Noone should have to go through it: I am sorry for you.

Lucy, what horrible, awful news for your family.

I posted really quickly earlier - dh was trying to hurry me along. God I am so tired.

I am never going to move house myself again - always get a man in! - and I didn't do hardly anything in comparison to dh.

We gave the house a good clean and the buyers came tonight and cleaned the carpets and curtains. My mum helped enormously.

So I will not be here as much - my mum won't let me surf the net that much! And I will be house hunting as well.