March 2007 - All present and correct now

[LunarSea]

Morning all - new thread as the old one's about to hit the 1000 posts limit.

Not so great this morning - feel like an egg-bound chicken IYSWIM. Grrr - especially as I managed to avoid it all the way through pregnancy. And not sure if there's anything I can take for it while I'm feeding?

[foxcub]

Rosy _ I wish I could get thin by just thinking about it. This is a complete fluke and I'm thinner now than I have been for 7 years (since PG with DS1)

Am trying to keep the weight off now by walking everywhere pushing a huge double buggy (or is that a "bendy bus"? Its about the same size..)

[divastrop]

rosy-im one of them as well then,ive never bothered reading childcare books.
by the way,you are gorgeous.
the only way ive ever lost weight is by smoking

ive been pushing a double buggy around but im not losing weight,just getting larger arm muscles.


Elsie didnt go to sleep untill the football finished,so i still havent read,better get off here and go do it.

fox-ive used the canesten on her a couple of times and already the redness and swelling is going down a bit.she pooed at me earlier,just as i was about to leave to pick up ds2.its the third time shes done that,lift up her bottom and project poo all over my jeans.

babies are great

[kittyhas6]

Diva/foxy I seem to remember that a sign of nappy thrush is that the redness speads out further than just round the bum, e.g towards the thighs. Certainly I've found that really nasty 'nappy rash' that won't clear up is nearly always thrush.

Anyways Canesten does the trick

Laidback, Devon sounds exciting, the coast there is really beautiful, fab beaches. Whereabouts are you looking?

[CallieNewMum]

Hiya gang, hope you are all well tonight.

First up, Mossy, hope you are still feeling better today. I found for a while that I would feel great one day and terrible the other day - it's completely normal. on the bfing front, when I was in hospital I saw a different nurse every time I was trying to do it and would get slightly different advice from each one which completely did my head in. I felt after a while that I just wanted one person to say, do this and it will be ok. I still feel a bit like that about motherhood in general but am realising as time goes on that all you can do is do what's right for you at that time. One day I will think, yes, that's ok and then I completely question it the following day. I'm also finding I'm very much snappier with DP when it comes to things to do with Jordi. On sunday, which was also my mum's birthday, I had a terrible day. I got really upset about his feeding again cos I was once again worried about overfeeding him and got into an argument with DP, then couldn't stop crying about not being able to breastfeed him again. Continued crying or wanting to on and off through more than half the day, including at the meal for my mum's birthday, which I had to try very hard to hide. Oh well.

Diva, thanks for the bottles reply. Still haven't got any, but will in the next day or two. How much is Elsie having btw? I think Jordi has been having another growth spurt.

I can't remember the name of the woman who had a premmie nephew also called Jordi, but if you are reading, that's such a coincidence.

I think Jordi is starting to get himself into a bit of a routine, one which doesn't involve sleeping through the night though! I don't expect that to happen for ages, cos he's such a hungry boy...

Jordi tends to sleep through a lot of the afternoon so today I took the opportunity to do the dishes and clean the kitchen and I feel so much better - it depresses me no end going in there when it's a shithole. We're starting to bring some order to the chaos upstairs too now - have got the baby's room-to-be in a bit of order, went to Ikea the other day and got a big chest of drawers and a shelf with stacking bins that fit into it, and a mate came over with a cot bed for LO when he's ready for it.

Jordi's just starting to cry for food - off now. Goodnight!

[LaidbackinEngland]

Rosy - my life goal is to be laidback - but have enough money to buy nice things

Kitty - I am looking around the north coast Devon - but it's all a bit expensive. We were originally looking in Cornwall - but DH now has work in Barnstaple so we need to be in commuting distance of there.

Amos is curled up on DH's lap as we speak. He is a lovely little chap, but has a very spotty face - which I think is something hormonal (Amos rather than DH)

[Rosylily]

Thanks Diva I think now that the excitement of the baby has calmed down, I'm finally contemplating the fact that I have turned 40. So I am deciding my plan of action for getting older now! I want to be fit and healthy and not 'let myself go' as I age. But first I need more sleep!

I seem to get less sleep every night at the moment and it's not Hasan, it's the whole lot of them! And I'm very grumpy and being horrible to dh, who of course deserves it!

Callie would you be an emotional person usually? Are you keeping an eye out for pnd? You are maybe just over tired which is causing you to fret about things.

I go really bonkers without enough sleep. I'm not feeling sane at the moment.

Laidback, what is it with the hormones? Hasan is spotty all over his body!

[DollyPopsOut]

Hello all, hope you are well

Callie, you are describing exactly how i feel. I agree with Rosy that a lot of it is down to sleep or lack of. DD2 sleeps much better than DD1, but broken nights and screaming children for any amount of time is enough to make you super sensitve to everything. I was a lot snappier and moodier with DD1 as I was so much more tired. It does get better (or you get use to it!) but the first few months are bloody hard. Don't forget as well that you had all the trauma of going into labour early which is also going to make you feel more emotional about things. As for reading a wealth of different ways of doing things etc, I think trial and error is the best thing. Pick the bits you think sound OK from advice, try them out and abandon them if they are not for you. Feeding is esp confusing as you get told so many different things. On that one, I found a book where I seemed to like the author's way of explaining etc and went with that. Otherwise, everything contradicts everything else and you end up very confused! You are doing a great job so hang on in there.

BTW, I get mad if the house is a mess too. DH is a love, but is the least tidy person on the planet and can't sort out mess to save his life! He is away this week so the house is looking ok. I am not very tidy either but my messiness threshold is several notches higher than his.

Credit card fraud on its way to being sorted. They havent said they'll pay it yet, but they wil by the time I have finished with them .

Had the girls over last night for pizza and wine. Very easy to do and so nice to see them without babies and saying "share nicely", " I think X was playing with that" etc every 2 minutes. Went to Fat Fighters in the morning, adn reckon I need to lose about 2 1/2 stone to be what I want to weigh. The packets of biscuits have now gone and I am trying to eat fruit. We'll see how it goes.

Hope you all hada good night. XXXXX

[foxcub]

Dolly - very impressed by all your activity yesterday!

I will try canesten on Monti's wee bum - thanks Diva and Kitty

well hekept me awake most of last night, either grunting or feeding every 2.5 hours (he normally feeds 3 hourly) so I shall be expecting him to grow now!!!

DH home today - hurrah I get to go back to bed now as he is on school run duty

see you all later

[Mossie]

Morning ladies,

Bertie had a far better night last night, slept for four and a half hours straight!!!

Of course now I worry he isn't feeding enough... but I'm trying to put it out of my mind, he is weeing and pooing okay so he should be all right.

Dolly I'm so impressed you're getting out and about! Yesterday I got dh to look after Bertie while I walked the dogs for an hour, first time I've walked for that long since - well, since I was about 34 wks pg! Still need to get the hang of the pram and / or the freedom sling so I can walk the dogs when dh goes back to work next week.

Kitty your bunch is gorgeous no wonder you had six!! Now... just one more and you could have a singing group headed up by a nun...

Ahhh... Bertie has awoken so I will have to come back and finish this later!!!

[DollyPopsOut]

Mossy, sorry I haven't replied to your text. I will do, promise .

I think with feeding if they are doing a good number of wet nappies and seem ok, alert etc they are getting enough.. BF babies can use the milk very efficiently and so not poo much. They usually let you know pretty quickly if they are not getting enough to eat, so no need to worry there. I always look back at photos and can see mine getting bigger which convinces me that they are growing and getting milk.

Have a good day XX

[Mossie]

Callie, I had that really badly over the last week, the crying I mean. Also I had severe paranoia, I was convinced that dh and mil were talking about me and bfing behind my back! Still get waves of it this week but nothing as bad as last week.

Diva when I gave up smoking I put shedloads of weight on initially. Then I discovered coffee and got addicted to that instead, and lost weight again. I cut down on coffee when I was pg, and now have to cut down again! I'm going to be a fatty for a while.

Laidback I've never been to Devon, what is it like, do people speak with a proper West Country accent there or have I my geography mixed up?

Rosy it still hasn't sunk in here that I'm 30 and have a baby yet, the other day I was watching mtv dance and thought "ooh now I'm not pg any more we could go clubbing again!" and then realised that it was going to be quite some time before that happened!! Still I can dance around the living room with Bertie listening to cheesy scouse house drinking a bottle of water talking rubbish to him and feeling loved up... it's better really!

Right once again I don't get to finish writing replies because of the little man, what's he like!

Love to all of you that I've not replied to... might make it back later, if not hope you all have a great day XXX

[Mossie]

X posts Dolly... I am counting how many poos and wees he does, I know it's a bit sad but it keeps my mind at rest!!

[Piffle]

Golly got 5 hrs last night, feel like I won the lottery
was from 10.30-3.30 then to 5.30 but that was cos he was snotty methinks - I just stuck him into bed with me and we woke for the day at 6.30am.
5 hrs straight is better than 7 hrs in little bits IMHO

Had freaky thing at 5.30wake up though was dreaming already had picked Finn up and was feeding him, milk letting down everything, only to then be worried that he was stil crying - very puzzled me in neverland for a few seconds to wake up soaked in milk and with very unhappy son.

Really enjoyed that great game of footy last night too (not a fan of either team but was top notch entertainment)

Well Finn is into 3-6 mth clothes now He is dead long in the torso and leg, hope his arms catch up LOL

[kittyhas6]

Hello I so glad that so many of you seem to be going loopy due to no sleep. Well, I wish you could all sleep, iykwim, but at least my deranged and unreasonable state is normal then.
Sometimes I feel like a cartoon charater that's been smacked with a frying pan and is wobbling around.

I keep saying to myself "this is as hard as it gets" over and over. Doesn't stop me wanting to kill people though

[Piffle]

What I love best of all is you just get them settled into a decent night time sleep adn then they teethe for the next 2 years...

[Rosylily]

lol kitty at that vision of you Know how you feel.
Piffle my Dad was just going on about that match while I pretended to care

Hasan was all squirmy so i just located a dummy with a flower on it that dd never wanted, boiled it and Hasan has sucked it happily off to sleep...i've never been able to get the others to take a dummy.

He still has murky blue eyes. Wondering if that's how they'll stay now, dh and I are both brown eyed with blue in both families though.

[kittyhas6]

Rosy, eye colour is a strange one isn't it?
Dp and I both have brown eyes. I'd always assumed we'd only have brown eyed children, but there are 2 light blues , 2 very dark brown (from birth) one hazel (started off blue) and Ronnie who at the moment has light blue eyes and reddy blonde hair , christ knows where that colouring has come from.

I actually don't think any of them are my children. I reckon they were swapped at birth. None of them look remotely like me or dp.... or like each other come to think of it. There's def something funny going on

[divastrop]

hi all.

i fell asleep listening to that hypnosis cd on the sofa last night

Elsie,dd2 and ds2 all decided to wake up at 5.45am.i could have used the time constructivley and got out of the house on time but,no,i fell asleep on the sofa at 7 then had to feed Elsie at 7.30 and was late leaving yet again.

i just cleaned the bathroom and tidied/dusted/hoovered the whole upstairs in the space of an hour,with Elsie sitting in her chair and the rasmus on loud to motivate me.

mossie-after i split up with xp(ds and dd1's father)i lived on coffee and fags(and the occasional illegal substance when the kids were with their father at the weekends)and i lost 5 stone in 9 months.im back on my usual 7 cups of coffee a day now,but i cant stop eating chocolate for some reason.i dont even like the stuff,only when im pregnant normally.

fox-Elsies bum is alot better today.still red but not spotty or bleeding anymore.sudocrem my arse

[foxcub]

hi everyone - I remember DD didn't poo for 3 weeks when she was little. I was frantic but GP explained that babies can sometimes just use all the breast milk so there is no wastage.

Mossy you're doing great - echo Dolly's point about if he's alert, weeing and pooing he's fine.

Piffle - you poor thing - can you get to bed any earlier at night to get a couple of hours extra - maybe go to bed when the kids do and snuggle Finn up to you until his next feed?

Diva and Kitty - you are sio lucky having such lovely big familes - now if only I'd started mine a bit earlier I could've done that too (we,, four maybe). Its my only real regret in life that I put off having kids for 10 years after DH and I married and so limited how many we could have by the fact we are so old now.

never mind, we have three lovelies so am very lucky - specially days like today when DH is home

[divastrop]

kitty-i think your ds1 and dd3 look alike,as do your ds2 and Ronnie.
how many of our kids can we marry off to each other?if we're paying for a wedding anyway we may as well do a job lot

Elsies eyes are still blue.i thought they'd be dark like dp's.she looks alot like him,and i think shes going to have his dark colouring(rather than the pale/freckly irish lookthat ds1,dd1+dd2 have got from my side).ds2 has blonde hair,pale blue eyes and skin that goes golden as soon as the sun comes out.

[foxcub]

Diva x posts - fancy popping round to supervise my cleaning? reckon I could learn a few things

I'll try canesten today - glad Elsie's bum is better

sudocream my arse LOL!

[divastrop]

fox-my sure start support worker was here and i knew i only had a hour to do it in while she played with dd2.i work best under pressure.

callie-Elsie is having 4 or 5 oz about 6 times a day but its all over the place atm due to her growth spurt.ive been writing down all her feeds the past 3 days cos ive been worried about her pooing.yesteday lunchtime she drained a 5 oz bottle then had 3oz out of another one

[foxcub]

piffle saw your name on the mumsnet summer picnic thread - hope i get to meet u

• anyone else fancy coming from this thread?

[kittyhas6]

Diva, I'll give you their ages, you pair them up

ds1, 8, lovely boy but rather scatty and chaotic
ds2, 7 needs to be an only child , personality wise he's possibly related to Spock from star trek
dd1 5 , typical bossy girl
dd2 3, is on speed or something, as I mentioned before, she comes with her own cage and lead
dd3 16 months, gentle giantess, likes to throw things everywhere, fearless

That just leaves Ronnie and Elsie

Sorted!!

[Rosylily]

Well, I spent 20 mins expressing by hand and produced an ounce which Hasan breathed in but result... he took the bottle so now i must keep doing it so eventually I can escape..wayhay!