March 2017 (3)

[purpleviolet1]

Thread three!

Hi all,

We had a tough night. I think DS was teething yesterday as he didn't have much milk at all, it was a battle to get him to feed. Gave him ibuprofen an hour before bed but he still woke frequently and was often upset - my guess is hunger because he hadn't eaten enough in the day. I broke the golden rule and let him sleep until 8am - usually he wakes naturally around 7am so in theory I should have woken him up then, but I was too tired!

It's a lovely sunny day here as well so I'll take him out for a walk this afternoon

Hugh
Check the ingredients list on the packet, but I'm 99% sure that most cereals including weetabix contain added sugar. I wouldn't give them for that reason. I have a terrible sweet tooth myself and want to avoid giving DS too much sugar, especially to begin with.
Hope your DD feels better soon!

Sorry some have had a bad night :(

Weather is tech sunny here tho feels cold to me as used to 35*

Sure weetabix is ok for babies. Have given to many. Unless they have changed recipe

Dd a bit grumpy today. Cuddled her to sleep after lincjnas wasn't settling - unlike her - still asleep 1.5hrs later - maybe teeth .....

And she is 6mths today - where has time gone

Blondes
Happy half birthday to your DD, lovely photo!
We have the same milestone cards

I just Googled it because I'm a saddo I was curious and Weetabix has both sugar and salt on the ingredients list, but it's 95% wheat so it must be only tiny amounts.

Apparently ready brek has no added salt or sugar. I'm not home at the moment so cant check the box but thats what I have been giving the twins.

Had an ok day with DD.

We had an exorcist style vomiting at lunch time. Not sure whether it was down to having banana for the first time or the fact I gave it her as a stick and she chewed a chunk and tried to swallow it or if it's coz she was teething but she brought up all her lunch and bits of formula she had earlier.

She wasn't very hungry in the Morning, she had a very rosey cheek so think she had sore gums. She had all of her late afternoon bottle plus her veg (same as lunch) and half a baby yoghurt, kept it all down

She had 8oz at bedtime fine and went to bed at 6:45 no problem.

Hugh
Thanks for the info about salt, that's really helpful.

Carol
Oh dear, sorry to hear about the vomiting. Hope it wasn't the banana!

I had a lovely long leisurely walk with DS this afternoon. Because he was an hour late with his routine today (after getting up an hour late) I was worried that his last nap would be too late and mess up bedtime, so I decided to try skipping it - big error! He was exhausted and upset so I put him to bed early but felt really bad He is definitely not ready to drop that nap!

Out of interest, what sort of sleep routine do you all have? Ours is flexible and doesn't always go according to plan but on a good day it looks something like this:
7am wake up
9.15-9.30ish goes down for a nap... sometimes for an hour but lately it's been around 40 minutes
12.30-12.45ish down for a longer nap, about 1h20 (two sleep cycles but I usually have to help him get into the second cycle or he'll wake up after just one)
4.30-4.45pm down for a short nap, usually 30-45mins
7.30pm bed

I wish he'd link the sleep cycles himself so he could have that longer lunchtime nap without me having to do anything halfway through, it would be lovely to be able to have a decent nap myself or maybe even get something done!!

DD wakes anytime between 5:30 - 6:30 if I'm lucky 7. Has 40 min nap at 9ish then has afternoon nap from 1 til 2:30-3, then bed 6:30-7. She doesn't nap after 3. Gets a little whingy about 5:30 but once we start the bedtime routine she knows she'll be going bed soon so she chills out

@name. They are lovely cards. Waiting for the first said mama and dada. That will set me off

@carolann - reading you say exorcist style reminded me of being preg and being sick through hg

Hope dd is ok

@name

730 wake dd up
9/10 nap
1-230 if lucky till 3
430 catnap 30mins
7 bed

Tho if out for activity then may sleep 1230/1 then 3/5 - this is usually mon and fri due to M&T and music

If wakes 230/3 and doesn't nap / like today then bed 630 and from 530'is grotty

Maybe try putting down at bit later at 1 to see if will sleep for longer without you

Aw hope dd feels better @Carolann8584

@NameChange30 ds is awake at 7am and asleep by 7pm. Most recently moved to two naps - 9:30-10:15ish and 12:30-14:30ish. Before this used to have 3 naps - 9-9:40, 12-2:00 and 4-4.30. Whilst we transitioned he had a few grumpy afternoons, now he is happier although can see him get tired around 5.30. Find that two naps works better as he wasn't settling as easy for morning and lunchtime, but they had to be early to allow for third nap (if third nap was too close to bedtime I found he would just cry after getting up from it).

I found he only started having a long lunchtime nap when he learnt to self settle - so can understand that your ds needs help to push through. Prior to that he used to sleep 45 mins or 1 hour max unless in the car and it was frustrating as he wasn't as content in the afternoons then

Yay I would say last night we had an almost slept through the whole night

Bed at 6:45 df at 11. Woke at 4 for her dummy then woke up at 6:20 progress I think

Great news carol!

Nice one Carol!

Thanks for sharing your schedules, interesting. Hugh I'm surprised your DD can go from 3.30pm to 8pm, but I guess that's down to the 2 hour nap which doesn't happen here! DS used to sometimes have a random long nap but not any more sadly. I think you're right purple and he will only manage longer naps independently once he can reliably self settle. It's a bit annoying because he can do it at bedtime but not other times, I guess bedtime is the easy bit!

Last night was tough again. Managed to feed him less but he still woke up a lot and was difficult to settle without feeding. I don't think he is going to sleep longer stretches at night without breaking the feed to sleep association but it's bloody hard work.

I wanted to go into town today to do a few errands but I can't face it! The weather is crap so we'll probably just stay home

Oh and DS had an emergency bath this morning... poo everywhere! DS is really bloody wriggly now and gets poo all over his hands, feet and legs before I can stop him. Thank goodness DH was around to help as I was on the verge of tears... not usually this pathetic but the exhaustion is getting to me

Namechange I know you want to take things slowly but would you consider speeding up the sleep training a bit which may involve a bit of crying? It's weighing up your own exhaustion vs taking it slow but ultimately you both need more sleep

Is too long of a nap a problem? For the last fortnight, the twins wake between 7.30/8 and nap from 10am to 1pm with a flexible 20 min window either side. They might have a short nap in the afternoo never more than 45 minutes.

I'm wondering if the morning nap is too long? They still don't sleep through the night and will generally wake at midnight, 3am and 5.30am.

They go back to bed immediately after bring fed though.

I have no idea, but I would be making the most of those 3 hours

Thanks purple. It is a fair point about the exhaustion and I have been thinking that if things don't improve soon, we will probably have to do something differently. To be fair I think this is the most difficult stage, reducing night feeds and teaching him to self settle, but I don't think we can do one without the other. He does cry and we have various different ways of soothing him, so we probably need to be a bit more consistent, but it's a transition phase atm.

Thanks name I have a shower, have a meal, short nap and then express for 30 minutes. If I'm not too tired, I try to do some tidying otherwise dh and I do it in the evening.

We've just put an offer on a house so t his time will also be used to sort stuff out.

Ooo good luck with the house abacha! Ds used to have a longer nap in the morning and a shorter nap in the afternoon but I found he was cranky in the afternoon so I started waking him up in the morning after 1 hour and then he started sleeping more in the afternoon. For what it's worth I've read that babies at this stage need no more than 2 hours and 45 mins daytime sleep. Maybe try gently reducing total daytime sleep by 5 mins or so every couple days and see if the nights improve? Do they wake because they are hungry or just to have a little play?

Namechange I get what you are saying. Just as long as you know there are options and you aren't backed in a corner! Obviously the thread is for support so we can talk here freely. Keep doing what you are you are doing and we're always here to listen