May 2017 #16 Sleep deprivation, mumnesia and first smiles

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New thread to celebrate the small things (like first smiles and eating steak with one hand), commiserate over the less fabulous stuff (poonamies, vomit eruptions and wind spring to mind) and someone to talk to at 4am

@Badgerbird apparently you shouldn't mix the milk at different temps. So yes put NatureBond in the fridge first. If I remember I put it in for an hour, then combine and rinse before next feed. But I don't always remember!

You can angle it so it works with most feeding positions. I can make it work when side lying. You can keep milk at room temperature for 6 hours I think (as long as the room isn't super hot) so you could do it night and leave it if you knew you'd be up again within 6 hours. I don't always bother at night as it's one more thing when I'm tired!

@crazyzooo I assumed I'd keep it for 6 months.

Baby W has her 6 week appointment and 8 week jabs all in one when we are back from holiday. A bit worried about how she'll react so good to read your experiences.

@crazyzooo I totally agree. I feel like it's an easy diagnosis to make to get someone to go away, which is exactly what happened initially. Then I made a big fuss and we have a referral to sort out what it actually is. Me not eating dairy hasn't made a difference but I'm doing it to prove a point so they can't fov me off! 😉

how long have you been df rabbity?
there is a long list of potential sensitivities sadly but dairy most common I think, probably as we tend to eat a lot of it and every day. Oddly gluten possible too.

Thanks mrsjw, very helpful :)

raspberry I hope you get to the bottom of the rash. Carla had one too and mw said not to worry it was normal. Went after about a week.
When your oh gave molly bottles that afternoon did you express to stop boobs getting too big and keep supply up or was it ok?

Curious about these things...... wondering how we get more than 2.5 hours away from our little ones when bf!? Although totally understand that I may not for a while and that's fine too.

I can't believe how quick baby Badger is growing and find myself feeling very sad about it sometimes as I know I'm going to miss these times.. ... even though some days are bloody hard!

A week or so but apparently it can take a while to come out your system. I'm pushing for actual testing rather than guesswork though because it may well be something other than dairy.

@Badgerbird I've been away for a couple of hours and the only way I could do it was to express. The think I struggle with is knowing how much I need!

DD had quite a bad rash as well, had it for 2 weeks until I cut out wheat and it vanished. Still cutting out dairy and soya. I'd expect more of a reaction than just a rash it is an allergy, but it may be because only a tiny amount makes it through the milk.

My DS had blood tests for allergies but if they're intolerant rather than allergic (so non-IGE) then it doesn't show up in the tests. There's no way to prove it apart from cutting it out then trying it again.

I've just ordered a naturebond too, this thread should get commission! What bottles does everyone use? Want one that's most similar to a boob.

As Acorn said my understanding was testing didn't work for babies, not sure why.
Rabbity I thought it was 2-3 weeks, hope it works for you or you get another solution!

Acorn Medela claim the calma is most similar and it's the one we've used so far

Loving the naturebond, thanks everyone for recommendations. Agree about the commission! Sad I haven't had one since he was born! Getting more than I did with medela manual pump.
I decanted into medala bottles during the day and then bag at night to freeze.

@Acorncat We use mam bottles as easy to sterilise but think the medala calma is meant to be most similar to boob?

Can't help with rash @RasperryInAMelon but hope you get to bottom of it. Well done for going in to work too! I need to start looking at nurserys and prices. Although still haven't worked out what days we would need

Forgot to add we got a nasal aspirator and it's a wonderful invention for clearing baby's nose! Thankfully he seems over the worst of it now

I have a sterilising question (well done a few), once you sterilise something how long is it good for and what do you store it in?

Do you wash and sterilise your pump after every use or just once a day?

Do you dry sterilised stuff with paper towels or do you leave it to dry itself?

1004 is it for formula or breastmilk?

Gosh the medela calma is £16 for 1 bottle! I ordered a haberman one off amazon before reading that after a quick google so will try that first.

Sterilising confuses me too, though I'm sure I was told that if it's just breastmilk then cleaning thoroughly with soapy water is enough

@savagehk breastmilk, trying to get a stash/get DH to give her a bottle a day

Acorn I have Minbie bottles, they claim they are very similar to breast. The shape is similar to a nipple and baby has to regulate flow. I bought them as I was worried about causing nipple confusion but I'm not sure how necessary they are at this stage (I started a bottle of expressed milk at 3 weeks).

Feeling like a mean mum as baby Peach had a tongue tie snip on Thursday (I felt like I was condemning her to pain signing the consent form, basically got over emotional) and cry every time we have to do the 'massage' as she screams in agony. On top of that poor thing had her immunisations the morning after and screamed at every single one. I think the instinct of trying to protect her is in overdrive as all these horrible things have had to happen :(

@Badgerbird nope... I was at work and a pub quiz, left at 1pm and got home at 10pm. To put it politely... I was in fucking agony. Ended up having to express into a toilet because it was so bad!

Even if you can't take a pump, I'd perhaps see about taking a bottle I could express into and pop in a fridge if you want to keep the milk. I will text time - seemed like such a waste. Also... take spare breast pads... or you'll leak, bloody everywhere like I did 😩

@Acorncat we use Tommee Tippee closer to nature

@peachicedt we just didn't do the massage but what we did do was keep sticking our tongue out at him (the mirror neurons mean he copies and sticks his tongue out, I was astonished) and running a fingertip all along the ridge of his lower gum line (so he wiggles his tongue to follow your finger)

@CoxsOrangePippin that seems kinder. Was that enough to stop it reattaching? I'm not putting her through the snipping again so am really hoping it won't reattach.

It has healed well and not reattached (in our case at least!). After 24 hours I began to be glad I had it done.

For anyone who missed the post on Fb or isn't in the Fb group, we've made a group for all of us wanting to lose weight/tone up or get fitter and be healthier. Just somewhere we can motivate one another and share ideas etc.

m.facebook.com/groups/105935186735106

Feel free to join!

Re sterilising for breast milk I'm not very particular. I rinse the pump bits in contact with the milk immediately and wash in hot soapy water. I then occasionally microwave sterilise in a bag. Bottles the same, but we use glass ones and the sterilising is to boil in a pan. I'd be much more careful with formula.

We did the same as cox. Was it to help with feeding peach? If so I hope it's helped.

Ouch raspberry !! Yeah not surprised, bet they were bursting Thanks for the words of wisdom.

I've only been away from her twice for 2hrs and fed immediately before going and on return.
Hoping to build up a small stash of milk with naturebond. Still getting used to it, what position to put baby Badger in and find it a bit sore on my nipples but it's great!

Sterilising here:
abm.me.uk/breastfeeding-information/expressing-breast-milk/

Worth noting NHS official line is still sterilise everything every time, although I have seen individual hospital advice where the emphasis is more on making things clean with hot soapy water than sterilising as people were doing the sterilising but not properly cleaning first

@PeachIcedT be mindful that the baby Peach may take time to relearn how to latch. Our little one regressed a bit and forgot to open his mouth wide enough. We've seen osteopath and now the little boy feeds with no problem and my nipples started to heal.

How baby Peach reacted to the immunisations? We've got ours booked for Tue and I am feeling heartbroken already.