May 2017 #16 Sleep deprivation, mumnesia and first smiles

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New thread to celebrate the small things (like first smiles and eating steak with one hand), commiserate over the less fabulous stuff (poonamies, vomit eruptions and wind spring to mind) and someone to talk to at 4am

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Glad he's feeding better @Rustler74

Interesting, I thought the feeds would be getting shorter by now for us like you it's getting close to an hour by the time we've done nappies and resettled him. And because he's feeding so often there's only an hour of sleep in between feeds.

We got back on track a bit more yesterday with naps and things so hopefully the nights will follow! It's a shame as we were doing much longer stretches.

@Paige84 sounds fab and @mightymouse76 probably a good decision! We'd normally go abroad but hoping for a Swallows and Amazons type of experience for my older children.

Baby savage only woke for first night feed at 4.39 (!). Admittedly bedtime was probably 10pm but still, I'll take that!! Does look like she's decided it is time to get up for the day though....

@savagehk jealous!! Baby mighty also now wakes up at 4.30 every day although I may lay there in denial until 5
I think our room is too light and he's just responding to sun up.

Those whose babies sleep longer in the mornings, have you got black out type window coverings?

Blimey rustler not ideal hope the boobs and scar improve.

Tea, mrsjw and sorry baby brain, who else described a lovely upcoming holiday, they all sound lush hope you have a great time. I find the sunshine in the mornings massively helps mood with the sleep deprivation so I'm sure sea views will boost it still further! Do feel free to tell us all about your hols whilst you're away ladies, I save up reading this thread for one of the hour long night feeds it's a treat

Vanilla congratulations on the weight gain and expressing very impressive effort

Cox great that you got to the baby cbt group really hope it helps

Last night I suggested DP sleep in spare room for only the second time and I'm sorry to say I loved having the whole bed it's only a double so not much room when feeding the boy at night with both of us in there. He's just brought my breakfast and said he's groggy from a good nights sleep so maybe he'll be amenable to the same arrangement tonight...

Mighty yes weird how some situations I don't care about boobing at all and others... we were out with FIL for pub dinner at weekend and I fed between every course but changed seats so I was parallel but just in front of FIL but directly in front of a glass partition thing with two teenage boys sat on other side

In poo news, Harrison was doing too many to mention in his first month, last 3 days we have had some wet only nappies which were previously very rare. Hard to say whether it's the heat or him just settling down to slightly less poos per day. I can't imagine people getting 4 a day or whatever is in the low for normal range!!

Nice night savage!

Mighty no blackout blinds here in fact got the curtains and windows wide open whilst it's cool. Whether he continues to doze for much of the rest of the morning is dependent on other factors no idea what

Boobs less mental this morning which has reduced the feeding pain to discomfort but still enough to go to bf clinic.
Boy behaved so well at night during last week that I might think he's in some kind of routine now. Feeds not getting shorter though! Longer more like, but then he may be having a growth spurt ?

@mightymouse76 I hate to break it to you blackout curtains make no difference Baby Rise has decided on the past 3 days that the day starts at 5.30, today we decided to embrace it and she's washed and dressed, just leaves me (which will probably happen at about 12 if I'm lucky 🤔)

We don't have any feeds longer than 15 minutes, if she doesn't get too frantic we don't have too much wind. The frantic feeding in the evening makes for very windy grumpy baby!

@mightymouse76 I can understand the not wanting to feed in the back garden with neighbours like that on either side. I expect it's probably something to do with still seeing your neighbours every day, strangers in Sainsbury's we're unlikely to see again so we can use that well practiced tiger mum "I'm feeding my baby" look 😁

I definitely can't feel let down, maybe like @Tickyboovicki it'll come!

@CoxsOrangePippin well done for getting out the house yesterday, a little weepy is allowed! Hugs!

@vanilla8 mastering the lying down feeding was a revelation to me, unfortunately we can only do it on the left for some reason I must have wonky boobs 🙄 Well done for baby putting on weight! 😊

@mightymouse76 sounds like a good decision on that holiday. @teainbed @Paige84 @MrsJW15 they sound like good holidays 😁 We don't have anything planned until September when ILs have a cottage booked. Trying not to think about it as I makes me nervous, I know we'll be expected to leave Baby Rise for them to look after for a while. While the rational part of my brain says by September I'll be grateful for the break my control enthusiast side can't see me leaving her with anyone else ever 😣

@Rustler74 glad you have less mental boobs 😁

Going to get out for a walk today, was all ready to go yesterday when we had a sick explosion 💥 after cleaning up I resorted to writing my thank you cards instead so I at least felt like I achieved something!!

6+ weeks here and still don't feel let down. I think some people never feel the sensation. Laying down feeding is great - I feel LO feeds quicker that way. Only thing is its a bit dangerous during the night as it's incredibly tempting to drift off! Also means sometimes having to wake the baby up to finish feeding.

I have never felt let down with either baby. First solo nursery run with both girls today. Much easier than expected, but dd1 was unusually compliant about getting dressed today so not expecting that every day.

Good luck @EsmesBees !

Would love to lie down to feed but our latch is rubbish lying down and he's still a bit possetty so we have to be a bit more upright, it's tiring though. The majority of the feed is done in 10-15 minutes but he keeps doing the fluttery sucking which I'm told is good for getting hind milk but I never know how long to leave him as he would keep chewing for ages!

We have blackout linings in our curtains but our bedroom is literally facing the direction the sun rises so it would be light by about 3.45 if we didn't have them. I don't know if it makes a difference for the baby but it does to me. And I do subscribe to the 'make them realise it's night' theory to kick start their cortisol and diurnal rhythms whether it works or not I have no idea. But night = dark/quiet and daytime = light/noise makes sense to me.

Good luck at the clinic @Rustler74

Wow @savagehk I'd have killed for half of that last night!

The weather is cooler up here now. So I'm hoping for an improvement as I can't do more than a few nights with hourly wakeups. So if it's no better I will have to have a think about what to do next. I don't need a lot of sleep but I'm nearly at my limit.

Take care @teainbed. No suggestions to offer as I'm so new to this, but hope the wake ups improve.

Not sure I feel let down either!

@Rockyroad17 agreed, I love feeding lying down but sleep is tempting! And I often have to wake baby W who seems to be eating less overnight in this heat. She's making up for it during the day/evening!

Those who feed lying down - does baby lie on their side or back? I try to keep her on her side but she likes to be on her back!

@mightymouse76 we do have black out curtains but I think babyW is just not a morning person  she'll go back to sleep in the living room too.

@1004Rise I can't imagine leaving her either! But eventually i know I will. Just not with the in laws.

@teainbed I agree blackouts are essential for me, our bedroom in the old house faced the same as yours problem was in the summer it never got dark so we would never have got any sleep without them. We try to do the noisy bright day and the quiet dark night... makes sense to me... not sure if baby Rise has keyed on yet 🤔

@MrsJW15 😁😁😁 re the inlaws! Baby Rise lies half on her side half on her back when lying down, I figured we go with what's comfortable for her (that even sounds like I think I know what I'm talking about 🤔)

@EsmesBees well done on the nursery run!!

I'm struggling to stay awake at night. I feed lying down if I can but I just fall straight back asleep. We bedshare anyway and she sleeps in the crook of my arm to keep her a bit more upright. She's so unsettled though, she's squirming and groaning every 5 minutes. I'm sure I turned over in my sleep the other night which terrifies me, I took her with me but could just have easily have left or squashed her

I turn baby savage onto her side to latch, most times she stays that way but she seems happy enough feeding on her back as well. Her brother was the same.

@mrsjw re the in laws. I feel that way about all of his family tbh...my family are a totally different matter, obv.

I wondered exactly the same thing about the laying down feeding. I was initially told LO should be on side laying along my body at a 45° angle. Often ends up on back though, with neck turned slightly.

6 week check done, all good. Can't remember who mentioned fungal nappy rash - GP agreed with you! Hopefully the cream will sort it.

I thought the point of feeding lying down was so you could sleep?

I'm amazed anyone has a baby who will be put down ever. This is not my experience of babies.

We have blackout blinds but I still wake at dawn 😭. The light sneaks in round the edges.

Been sorting out clothes today, boxing up the ones that don't fit her anymore (already) am I the only one with a drawer full of knitted cardigans that I can't see her wearing (too hot or too big 🤔)

Oh and despite starting the day at 5.30 I only just got dressed 20 minutes ago (12 was optimistic 😖)

@1004Rise you are not the only one. My MIL got her friend to knit us literally about 15 woolly cardigans and loads of blankets for our May baby they're taking up loads of storage space and are probably never going to be worn...

Took the baby to be weighed today and at 3 weeks and 6 days and he is now 9lb11, up from his birthweight of 7lb13 so very happy he is gaining weight as I'm still disappointed breastfeeding didn't work for us so this makes me feel a bit better about it.

Yesterday was awful. He just screamed and screamed all afternoon and evening from about 1pm to 1am. I think it was a combination of colic and the heat. Dh came home to me in tears and a complete mess and took him off my hands for the evening. He did all the night feeds too as he could see I needed a break. I feel bad for him as he's at work today but I was really losing it yesterday so it did help to have a proper nights sleep.

@ClaireSunflower @1004Rise same here! I have a pile of blankets that I'm never going to use!

Nearly all the clothes we have been given are 3 - 6 months, lucky most people have thought about the seasons and brought appropriately!

I have loads of cardis from DS that were never worn and probably never will be. People love cardigains for babies!

Hugs @ClaireSunflower but I think one night of good sleep can make the next few days or week so much better!

@1004Rise we have sooo many cardigans! And at least 20 hats. Not really the weather for knit wear! The relative who knits is now onto stuff for the autumn. Lovely of her but we have so much!

I'm terrified of falling asleep while feeding lying down 😮

@Rockyroad17 my parents are obviously a different story! To be fair, when my parents are here, I hardly get to hold her, mum does all the nappy changes etc. The in laws are very nervous around her still!

@ClaireSunflower @Rabbitykins55 blankets are not so bad, some of the cardigans are gorgeous it's just a pity they'll never be worn 😖

Made it out for a walk, good view even if we came back early because I was too hot 😊