July 2006 babies - on the move???

[MaeWest]

May I take the liberty of starting a new thread ladies?

Hello. Twinkle here. In light of what you said on the other thread KZ I thought it was time to draw a line and have a name change (at least for a while - I do like Twinkle I must say!). I hope you don't think I follow you around and hijack your threads! It's just that you ask really sensible questions that often reflect what I'm thinking. As I've said in my reply, I promise I'm not torturing myself - I'm just very concerned for any other mothers who are in the same desperate emotional state that I was a few months back. I'm going to try to stay away from those threads from now on. Sorry you had a bad mother's day btw - hope you're feeling better and congratulations on the big decision!

Aidan's not crawling yet, but he seems to be trying and he's managing to shuffle a bit at the moment.

Lovely pics Pavlov!

Hey all, hope all is well. I am v v v p'd off with DP. Got LO to bed last night at 7:45pm after little napping daytime. MIL phones from USA, I was asleep. LO wakes up. DP ignores it, eventually I get up to see to her, lukcily she was not too grumpy just wanted a cuddle. He could have done that gggrrr .

Got her back to sleep, fall back to sleep on sofa. DP talking to BIL in USA online most of the evening. BIL admits that night before last it was him who phoned us at 2:30am, waking all of us up, obviously. Anyway. 10pm, phone rings, very very loudly, scaring the sht out me and promptly resulting in a screaming cry from LOs bedroom, right next to front room where fone when off. DP, takes the phone into the kitchen, ignoring the fact that his brother woke the baby up, again. I raise my hands in the air, like 'thanks', and go see to her. She cries for 10 mins, I just get her off to sleep, closed eyes, light snoring. DP opens the door ''all ok?. I shooe him out, he says *what? what?' LO wakes up, take me half hour to get her back to sleep. When I come out of her room, DP has a right go at me, saying I was bloody rude, he came in to help, and when should his brother call then, its never convenient for me? grrrrr . I just said good night and went to bed! It annoys me as his family phone between 9pm and 11:30pm every other day or so from USA. He was online to his brother so could have said he would phone BIL, or go into ktchen where its quiet to wait for call (agree time or something online). He always says 'so?' and 'and?' to anything I say now, esp about family calling, like if I say but he woke the baby up 'so? should he not call then?' 'and? what you want me to do about it?' grrrrr . Sorry for the rant. I am so p'd off.

Anyway Hmphry - DD does not wear socks, she wears tights, that way they cant fall off. She also wears trews mostly, but I was off out so wanted her to wea dress. Usually she is bare feet in the house, or if cold has sleep suit on. I dont bother with shoes either, mostly as she loses them/fall off in seconds.
Mae - music baby group sounds great, does your LO enjoy it? DP is taking LO to one next week when I am back at work so would be good to give him some feedback as to what to expect/

Lysettes - How cute? You should send piccies of your LO, see how DD reacts! DD has about 2 cubes of food each time, but they are largecubes so prob equ of 3-4. She mostly eats it all, but not always, and I usually add baby milk and baby rice to it for now, although not always. I am trying to find that Quinoa rice (superfood) but cant find it? Anyone know? Also just started giving her mumomega infancy, anyone else giving vitamins? I have heard good and bad so not sure, just paranoid that my milk is sh*t after such a lousy HV and LO being small.

I dont think it matters how much LOs each atm, milk is most important. You know that mantra...?! 'food is fun until they're one'?!!

Anyway, off to get brekky and ready for baby group this morning. Oh another thing. This baby group is mostly babies 1 year and older and some younger if with parents of older children. I am going as invited by a friend and only one I can find that does not coincide with future work plans. Should I try to find one for younger LOs?

Wow that was an epic

OMG Kam - she can talk?!! Proper words?!! That is amazing. I think between us the July babies are going to take over the world they are so bloody clever! My LO does not even say Dada or Mama randomly yet. She mainly says 'pfpfpfpfpfew' spitting everywhere, also makes a sound like a bird, like a parrot, she says 'eya' when she find something she likes on the floor, makes a piggy snorting noise, and does this sort of inward breathing with her tongue in the way (does that make sense?), like inward snoring. she still says 'agooo agoo' and the odd dja dja dja sound but not intentionally.

She did however, stand up, on her own without any support from us or anything else for 3 seconds yesterday

Yes, sharing settling would be great, up until recently we did, and then sort of somehow it is now me doing it . Yesterday he was a bit annoyed, I think that after LO got back from nursery she would only settle for me, if he held her or played with her she would cry, but be fine with me. I tried to explain to him that its because she often is away from him as he works, so is used to time away, but she has hardly no time apart from me, so she is probably feeling a little insecure as I left her for 5 hours and needs reassurance that I am there. His answer 'hmm'. He always takes stuff like this so personally. He really feels it is that she does not miss him, and prefers me to him when she is like this. Does not remember her wonderful grins when he comes in from work, or the occasions when she will only settle for him. So I think that last night his 'so what' attitude was on the basis that she doesnt want him, only me, so why bother?

LOL DD is currently trying to climb the cat scratching post, as if she is meggie poosecat, scratching her fingers down it and stretching up it just like a cat!!! I think I need to socialise her more with other babies

Pavlov-bloody men. Well, if it is any consolation it is always me that settles Sophie. DH doesn't show much of an interest until they are mobile and speaking.

Cartamandua-hope it is alright to call you Cart sometimes How did you think of that? I too have noticed that 'other' threads can become a bickering session at times.

kayzed-Roshi is doing so well bless her.

I used to dress DD1 in troos with feet but as happens in most cases, they don't suit your 2nd born DD. I need to find a dress for Sophie's Christening in May-she might be in size 6-9 months by then!

Must get on-byee for now.

xxx

hey ladies!!!

my new bugy arrived today!! its so light and compact! heres the one i bought buggy
but it looks like my seat to go might not fit! but if i pass my driving test next week there'll be no need for it!

jniors rummaging through my bag at the moment ad has found some stray reciepts which look like theyll be in his mouth soon!!

Music group is ok, DS enjoys it, but not so much of a social opportunity for me . We do a mixture of different songs, there's a percussion bit where the babies get rattles and drums to shake in time. Bought a pair of maracas for DS to have at home as he loves this bit. There's also a section where we do songs like Grand Old Duke of York and we're sposed to fling them around. Knackering on the arms when you're dealing with Captain Chunk. I am fickle tho and now the weather is getting better I want to do more outings and picnics with my mum friends. Also starting swimming lessons on Monday.

prettymum - I suddenly realised yesterday that DS was chomping on the cardboard box that his teething gel came in. I took it away but judging from his nappy today I think he may have ingested some of it . I mean, I'm all for BLW but that's taking it a bit far

pavlov for you at your dh, although take it from me mine is exactly the same....got home from work last night at 1130, said "just popping in to see jake" - next thing i hear on the monitor is him talking jacob's ear, who duly wakes up and dh desperately sssssshhhhhhing him (like it's going to do anything ) and then saying "i didn't wake him up" - I could hear him FGS

totally forgotten what i was going t owrite to everyone else trying to sort out letting stuff (did you know that a fully furnished flat no longer comes with crockery or cutlery btw?) and mortgage stuff for the new house......

packers come a week tomorrow and have said i just need to tell them what to pack and they'll pack it all. DH panicking that we have to do some of it in preparation but apparently our insurance won't cover it if we pack some of it - that's what i'm telling him anyway

talking of the bickering threads - did anyone read the private school one on the home page - started off v practically and then just deteriorated into a state v private argument.

and i happened upon the alpha mummy thing on the times online - caitlin moran has called us a bunch of boozy mouthy fishwives (i think definitely boozy and fishwives) when she refers to the "what if it were mn in the 70's" thread - grrrrr

jacob has taken to trying to crawl with his legs and do nothing with his arms - looks like a little caterpillar with his bottom up in the air! on a good note he's sitting much better, and even staying a little upright while playing with a toy. having to almost force him to open his mouth for food though, except for weetabix in the mornings maybe i should just give him that at every meal!!!

sorry an epic to rival pavlov's - wasn't meant to be, i'll be off now

xxx

boozy, mouthy fishwives eh?????

Have had the worst time with DD1 over her tea tonight-threatened to send her to the naughty childrens home. Gave her tea at 4.45pm and she decided even before I put it infront of her that she didn't like it. 2 hours later she was still sat screaming about it but refusing to eat it. DH came home and he couldn't make her have any either. Couldn't even bring myself to kiss her goodnight I was so cross. Am such a bad mummy really. Just don't know how to get her to eat. She only wants chips which we only have as a treat (oven chips).

Toodle pip.

xxx

kayzed-DD1 is 4 in July and only weighs 2 st 7 lb. Must get her to eat more.

Toddlers-why do they test our patience so?

hugs KZ. After black Monday Harry has been a total dreamboat. I think he exhausted himself. I wouldn't mind if I knew one particular day was going to be his tantrums for the week, and none till 7 days later....don't take this the wrong way, but I feel mildly reassured that Chili can (as HC's MIL would say) have the devil in him too......

Maewest LOL reading abour Captain Chunk. I can never be arsed with the whole swinging them round in the air thing either. He Hee read that bit out to my sister who is hear reading the newspaper and eating Easter Egg with me. Can we quickly invent the name of a diet that involves a tube of pringles, 2 glasses of white wine, half a Lindor Easter Egg (hello! How nice is that chocolate???) and a cuppa tea?

Frig all on telly tonight...

xxx

Hi Girls ? quick one from me, sorry I?ve not been on much lately, bloomin? work interfering with my mn life, grrrr!

Bloss ? I have a serious Lindor addiction brought about when I used to substitute it for wine when pg, (now I do both)

Re telly ? one good thing on tonight was Chaos at the Chateau on Channel4, funniest thing I?ve seen in a very long time

Mouthy drunken fishwives, quite like that description actually, tee hee!

Grossest thing that Emma has ever pooed has been one of my hairs , had to pull about 4 remaining inches of it out of her bum once I?d spotted it? how on earth did she ever swallow that

Re socks, one of the girls at nursery reliably informs me that Gap socks are the only ones that don?t fall off ? Emma doesn?t wear them that often but I did try some and she?s right, they didn?t fall off. She?s still wearing sleepsuits most of the time though, I?m certainly getting my money?s worth out of those 3-6 month ones.

Off to watch Dead Ringers now, sorry for the random thoughts, will do a proper catch up soon xxxx

lol HC - you can still call me Twinkle if you like! Cartamandua was the female tribal leader of the Iron Age Brigantes tribe and her "headquarters" (a huge area enclosed by earth banks) was fairly close to where I live. Can you tell I'm an archaeologist? (bet you're sorry you asked now!) But Cart makes me think of Iron Age cart burials so I guess that's appropriate (come to think of it Cart could rival Cod or Beef as a brilliant straight to the point name, don't you think?).

So jealous of people with babes who are starting to talk - Aidan's still not moved on from his cooing stage really.

But he is getting very clever at throwing things and will spend ages playing ball, etc. or rolling his toy train back and forth - so cute.

Thanks KZ

btw my dd will be 6 in June and is only just over 2 and a half stone!

sorry rant alert ladies

dh came home last night and threw a complete tantrum about ridiculously small and random things i hadn't done. and then came out with the classic line of all time "I know you're raising Jacob but we really must assess what else you're doing. You've really got to bring something else to the party". I just stood there agog

And then got myself all upset and lay awake most of the night and now am just in floods of tears, which jacob is picking up on and has refused any breakfast - weetabix, normally a given that he will eat that!

I'm so fed up with DH at the moment - he does nothing around the house or with jacob except play with him at the weekend - hands him back to me for nappy changes and feeding - and then to come out with last nights little outburst.

sorry, had to get that off my chest

xxx

Lysettes WTF!!?? What are you, one of his f**king employees? You have every right to be pissed of and very upset and if my DH spoke to me like that about that particular issue I don't think I'd speak to him for a week. (he ain't perfect but he wouldn't cast aspersions about the gruelling nature of being at home with kids) Give Jacob to DH for a whole day then go out. See what he is capable of "bringing to the party" after 12 hours...... Hugs hon.

Lysettes . What an ARSE . Sorry, know he's your 'D' H and everything, but that's a crap thing to say to you.

Lysettees Well said Bloss and Mae. Taking Emma to nursery brought it home to me that looking after a child, with all its rewards, is still constant work, which if you?re not doing yourself you have to PAY someone else to do. Unless you are lucky to have perfect child-minding relatives that you get on wonderfully with at all times (which most people don?t) then even having relatives look after your children is hard work to manage on a constant basis.

The room at the nursery has a maximum of six babies under one at any one time, but (often there are only three or four there), with two full time staff and a helper. I sat there and bf Emma at lunchtimes and realised that the staff NEVER stop, even if three or four of the babies are asleep, just managing the one or two that are awake has them constantly on the go ? playing with them, nappy changing, feeding, dishwashing, laundry, taking them for walks, cleaning the room, doing paperwork, stopping them from falling over, comforting them when they do, getting them ready for bed, dealing with them when they won?t sleep? Sometimes I feel that I?m going back to work for a rest (and that is also something that many of my colleagues with children say).

Having said that (and ooh sorry, this has turned in to an essay!) I really do think it?s impossible to appreciate the nature of the work unless you have done it full time on your own, so I can see why people think that it can?t be that hard and that because you are at home all day you must be slacking in some way. (I admit to having those thoughts myself before I had a child!) Is there any way you could go away for a night and leave DH on his own?

oh first sentence of second para doesn't really make sense, there shouldn't be a 'but' in it! I meant there are sometimes 3 or 4 babies.