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July 2016 #2

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Bluebell20 · 19/08/2016 04:28

A new thread as we (hopefully) move towards longer sleeps and lovely little smiles!

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sundaysunday · 03/09/2016 03:23

Glad you got some rest finally Anna, makes all the difference to get an hour or so of sleep. Bad DH for heading off to the pub though! It's you that deserves a drink!

I assume she's peeing OK? I was just gonna suggest perhaps she wasn't quite getting enough milk from you to fill her belly. When i was ebf Elliott I was constantly feeding and was just not producing enough milk for him. I'm learning that if you think something isn't quite right, chances are it isn't. So trust your instincts especially as a 2nd time mum.

E is constipated at the moment so is also doing the whole crying/trying to poo/failing to poo/crying cycle. Giving extra water between feeds and doing lots of bicycle legs to get things going!

sundaysunday · 03/09/2016 03:35

'can I die from lack of sleep' Grin

Bless you, I hope you get some more rest tonight x

birchybaby2 · 03/09/2016 04:15

Oh Anna, hope things improve and you catch up with sleep over the weekend.
Think I'm lucky with my little boy. Cluster feeds in an evening then wakes once usually in the night. Hubbie still thinks his crying unless attached to me in an evening is not normal. I can cope as long as he settles at 11pm for 4-5 hours.
Feeling guilty as fed him now but put him straight down with no nappy change. He feels squishy but if change him he'll be fully awake and want more milk. What do others do? He will probably go till at least 6 if not 8 now so a long time. Shame daughter will be in at 6 ish. His skin is fine so the sensible part of me knows it's fine. Xx

Bluebell20 · 03/09/2016 07:01

julf fab idea to type posts in Notes - that shall be my strategy from here on in! Glad the magic pills are working for you. Sounds like a good idea to phase a return home - for both you and your husband. Hopefully the time away will have helped him to adjust gradually to parenthood - rather than being sledgehammered with it like the rest of us!

I also bought a baby manicure set, and used it for the first time today - while Ruben was awake! I couldn't bear the thought of waking him up by cutting his nails (sleep is precious) so I did it during a calm awake phase. It took me twenty minutes, and getting the clippers hooked round each teeny tiny nail while he was waving his arms around and cooing at me was pretty tricky, but he smiled his way through it!

Floss sorry to hear about DH troubles. As others have said, it sounds more like he's being a bit thoughtless rather than intentionally selfish - sounds like you might need a few frank chats. Hope he pulls himself together soon.

dats ta for the tea and sympathy. I think I am trying to apply myself to breastfeeding as if it's a science with set rules and outcomes, and clearly this is not going to work as all babies and jubblies are different. I'm not sure if it is comforting or terrifying to hear that cracking it with baby number one doesn't necessarily mean easy street with baby number two! Delighted to hear the kitchen is done (as someone who lived with chipboard makeshift work surfaces for nearly a year, I know the pain of kitchens-in-progress).

And hoorah for the name! Joscelin is lovely. We got a slap-your-wrists letter in the post last week for not having registered Ruben, giving us one more chance before prosecution! As a matter of fact we had registered him - albeit last minute dot com - and the birth certificate was already in our possession, so some admin wires got crossed somewhere. Did try to ring them and tell them this but they didn't pick up, so DH chucked the letter. Hope we don't get any big scary official types showing up on our doorstep now...

Beaut I was seriously impressed by your comment to mil. You go girl!

primary I want pics of those spice rack bookshelves when you're done! Also, I finally bought breast shells and GOOD GOD they have revolutionised both feeding and expressing. No longer having to stuff a muslin down my bra (iPhone just autocorrected that to a Muslim down my bra...!) to avoid soaking through a Tshirt every time - plus I am collecting a ton of milk. Yippee! (Although at 3am the other night I managed to put one in upside down and ended up with milk pouring through my bra onto my pyjama shorts!)

Sophie Ruben's burps rival my husband's! They are astounding!

Anna I'm not googling so much... Just mainlining shit TV on Amazon Prime. I nailed two series of The Unreal (freaking hilarious) and am now on Under The Dome which started promisingly but has rapidly descended into nonsensical plot twists. May give that up and investigate this mysterious Yes to the Dress which I've never heard of before!

Ruby thank you ever so for the BF group details. If I can't find anything more locally now term has started I will be heading over! Also, what is with your mother?! That is possibly better than my dad asking me to do his laundry when I was 41 weeks pregnant...!

sock lovely news about your friends' wedding. Sorry about the brats...

julf loving the escapee neologism! Yeah Ruben is more farty (slash pooey) at night but I can't seem to get it all out - so the hours of 4 till 6 are spent with Straining Babe.

So we are doing quite a bit better with feeding, although it has taken time and patience, and earlier this week I really didn't think we would ever sort it. I was very down and beating myself up about it, but then had a bit of an epiphany in realising that I don't think badly of anyone else who is struggling, so why was I being so harsh on myself? Did a bit of a mental dusting down and shoulder shrugging, and sallies forth with a more positive attitude. Which is paying off!

Things that have helped: I am making sure that I 'pull' my nipple out as far as I can (by kind of squidging and pressing it) before trying to latch him on, and I am being very hot on removing him when the latch slips (which it does, often). The last couple of days, Ru has actually started opening his mouth noticeably wider, which is allowing his bottom lip to flange out when he latches. So exciting, as his lower lip has always been tucked in and pinchy before.

He still doesn't open his mouth wide at night when he is sleepy, however, so at the moment I am still on this expressing regime overnight. DH feeds him at about 12 and 6, and I do the 3am feed as well as expressing so that DH is not as zombie like as me the following day. It works ok but I am getting lazy about getting up for the expressing (the alarm doesn't pull at my heartstrings like a baby crying) - I am about half an hour late each time which is not good cumulatively and I am going to have to squeeze in an extra pump this morning to make up for it. Bad mummy. But oh, sleeping for more than 2 hrs in a row is soooooo nice...

The HV has seen us twice and we have finally, finally been referred to a BF specialist nurse, who I hope will get in contact with us on Monday.

So who are we backing in Bake Off? I am loving Selasi, obvs, but I also hope Val stays in for a while because she just warms the cockles of my heart. I am also quite fond of Candice - I like the way she is trying but kind of failing to hide her competitiveness - although her lipstick in week one reminded me of my poor make up choices in teenage years as a pseudo goth type.

In other news, I cleaned our utterly filthy fridge yesterday while my friend cuddled Ruben. It made me so happy that I took a photograph, which I shall now inflict on you all.

July 2016 #2
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Bluebell20 · 03/09/2016 07:04

Sorry, loads of posts appeared in the day it took me to write that! Anna, really hope you don't die of lack of sleep!!!!

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Rubytuesday2980 · 03/09/2016 07:05

Anna you've got a lot more experience at this than me, but could it be that your body just hasn't had a chance to catch up from the last growth spurt? Esp if you're not getting any rest. Also if you think she's got a bit of reflux, she's probably one of the 'drink more to soothe throat' babies, which won't be helping your body. If giving the formula means that you get some sleep, stick with it, remember that she needs a happy mummy more than anything.
That is definitely some sleep deprived googling!

The crazy thing that I have now caught myself doing is trying to teach H to suck his thumb! He keeps waking us and himself up because he's getting so frustrated that he doesn't have the coordination to get his hand in is mouth to comfort suck on it, so either misses completely, ends up trying to get his wrist in his mouth (cue much noisy slurping) or sticking his spiky baby fingers in his eyes. Silly baby.

birch that is a lot of sleeping, lucky you. I'll admit that in those nappy situations, it gets left if not bothering him.

Bad night here last night, have had two lots of 2 hours and had a very awake baby at 5am. Yawn...

Rubytuesday2980 · 03/09/2016 07:26

Hi bluebell, good to hear that you feel more upbeat, aside from anything else, the fridge tidying must have been great therapy.

Two manicure set related things:
Firstly, DH pretty much puts H into a sleepy headlock in order to sort his fingernails. Unfortunately photo is on camera not phone, but it's one for his 18th, that's for sure!
Secondly, things NOT to google - ours is called a 'baby grooming set' Confused

AnnaT45 · 03/09/2016 08:07

sunday she does plenty of wet and dirty nappies so she's def getting enough. I'll be interested to see her weight when HV comes in a week and a half.

ruby i think it's just a constant growth spurt. Im going to wait till 6 weeks and hope it improves but just do formula at night if needed. It has crossed my mind that she may have CMPA as dd1 has it but her symptoms were significantly worse and apparent. I'm hoping she doesn't but keeping an eye on it.

birch that's amazing!!! Go you. I would only wake for a dirty one as they tend to wake anyway and it can give them a rash. But it's fine as a one off of its wet!

Good news I didn't die from no sleep! I had 3.5 hours then 2 hours so feel like a new woman today. Currently watching beauty and the beast with dd1. Luckily she seems to love it as much as me

AnnaT45 · 03/09/2016 08:08

P.s blue sounds like you're doing better. I've been thinking of you.

thom if you're still reading I've been thinking of you too

Flossiesmummy · 03/09/2016 09:09

Bluebell Selasi for the win! He seems such a nice bloke as well as being pretty good so far.

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primarynoodle · 03/09/2016 11:05

So after all that stress Annie was basically totally the same after her jabs. Hoping it's the same for you on Monday indians Having lots of smiles now! She's definitely starting to be interested in the world around her.

becks that's awful :( my BIL and SIL both had meningitis as babies and dp remembers how terrifying it was

julf thanks for the info re:swimming, we might brave it next weekend!

anna you poor thing. Sounds like grace has cluster feeding down to a T! Must be a zillion times harder with another child to run round after too. I have to say we are now at 8 weeks and I'm not sure when it happened but the feeding has calmed down hugely - it was so demanding and draining for a good 6-7 weeks though. I think you should stick with a bottle of formula before bed, I think coping with the cluster feeding after a decent stretch of sleep will seem much more manageable. The biggest challenge for breastfeeding for me has been the mental strain to keep going. Also if your output is good in terms of nappies I don't think it is any indication of your supply, I honestly could produce enough milk to feed all of your babies but Annie was still feeding for hours during the day until recently. And LOL at can I day from lack of sleep GrinGrin

birchy I do a nappy change at 9.30, a nappy change at 3.30 and a nappy change at 7.30 so the feed at around 5ish and if she wakes up for one before half 3 I just leave it. I'm a better mum for more sleep and her skin seems fine so I'm happy with that (awaits a stoning from the sanctimommies)

bluebell I've had many a mishap with those bloody shells but they are revolutionary! Dp calls me 'mummy the mooturtle' - a cross between a milking cow and a turtle with a shell Grin great work on the fridge... I love nosying at what other people are packing in their fridges ;)

ruby I keep stuffing Annie's thumb in her mouth too lol, I hear you on the annoying loud slurpy noises!

So pissed off about bake off, never watched it before but we caught the first episode and now I can't watch it as they've switched off iplayer (we don't have a tv licence). I was getting quite excited about mirror glazes! Was selasi the black guy? I really liked him..

MrsRolly · 03/09/2016 18:02

Hello, just caught up after a week away in the van and some app post deletions (so annoying)

Bluebell you are doing so well, good work on the being kinder to yourself. I am always preaching it to my friends but am rubbish at doing it myself!!

Beaut - Raffy is wearing a mixture of 0-3 and 3-6 I have already given up buying 0-3 as he is straining I'm loads of what he has in that size. Such a chubster, someone asked me if he was 3 months old the other day Shock I was like umm nope 6 weeks just greedy and nosy so always looking around!

julfin we have a video of our daughter walking across her changing mat about this age apparently babies are born knowing how to walk they then forget and have to relearn it! Raff is also pushing himself around with his legs given the chance to have something to push against!

Sorry for all those with DH issues, I do think poor sleep and patience play a role if I get irritated although I am super lucky so cannot moan at all as DH has tried his best. I also think that paternity leave is so rubbish and doesn't give guys enough time to bond and become more useful/confident to help. not excusing any bad DH behaviours though!

Is anyone else baby wearing? I am loving my Tula with the insert although hiking cheddar gorge with it was ambitious and hot!! Glad we didn't spend out on a travel system as we have only used the wheels as they are know in this house a handful of times.

Back to school Tuesday so hoping to keep up better but will miss my little helper when she's back into her rigorous schedule of clubs Wink (self Imposed schedule I must add!!)

Cookiesandcoffee · 03/09/2016 22:45

Right trying to get back into the swing of things and keeping on the thread despite a shit week. (And two children who are now asking to go back to school and nursery!!) I've already said on FB but DH lost his job this week. Suddenly and with immediate effect. He was deeply miserable and has been really hard to live with prior to this... I believe it was for the best in the sense he hated the job but a financial worry. And hoping he can pick himself up from the knock. He's a mans man and so ego has been massively dented . Anyway, must begin to catch up...

bluebell yes be kind to yourself. Im exactly the same with dishing out advice I don't take. One of my biggest learns over the past few years of parenting is there's mostly no 'right' or 'wrong' way, there's no manual and no parents or children are the same, and don't respond in the same way eg you do this and get said result. Bravo on your positive attitude. I'm a great believer :) you're doing a bloody good job missus
Ps can you come and sort my fridge too please
anna sorry to hear about the cluster feeding. It's so draining. Literally. Empty sacks hereBlush I second the Wonder Weeks app. Very glad you didn't die Grin

indians Hallie just gets more and more gorge! Loving her jumper also. And you're looking great!

Hope the jabs went well! Haven't got ours til Thursday but will be 9 1/2 weeks by then!

julfin your little holiday sounded so lovely - very civilised indeed. Really pleased you had a nice get away - much deserved

ruby I have nothing to say but Oh. My. God.

dats I love the trash! Say yes to the dress is one of my faves!! Awesome name for sure!! Deffo worth the wait!

becks you have such a good baby! Can we trade pretty please?! Grin

beaut MB is a little chunk!! The rate he's going always go bigger in sizes ! I do think mothercare come up big though. I'm worried we are going to grow into and out of 0-3 very quickly here.. Have you sorted your pushchair issues?

Ok so G man has fallen asleep (after a day of no sleep and not being put down) ... So I'm off!! .. zzzzz

primarynoodle · 04/09/2016 00:14

Cookies, so with you on sizes - Annie was in prem/newborn til 5/6 weeks and is now growing out of 0-3 2 weeks later!

Have decided next/sainsbos are tiny sizes but George are really generous

julfin · 04/09/2016 19:17

Gosh, quiet day on here!

Cookies and Scase - so many hugs to you both and your partners. Keeping everything crossed that something comes along for them soon xoxo

Has anyone who uses the app managed to set it up so that it notifies you when there's a new post on one of the threads you're on? Like on Facebook?

Cookiesandcoffee · 04/09/2016 19:54

Wow very quiet day indeed! No julf I haven't found such a thing and I only use the app on my phone. I wish there was!

Thank you, he has already heard from a few potential jobs he could do privately so thinking of returning to self employment

primary same here! I've literally just put away the newborn and a few 0-3 bits are too small already! They were huge a week or two ago. Agree Next and Sains are small. John Lewis seem to fit George well.

He's 2 months today!! How is this possible?! sniff :(

primarynoodle · 04/09/2016 19:59

Cookies I'm so sorry in my sleepy haze I only skim read the first bit - I hope your dh is ok :( not a great time regardless but hardly the moment to pile all this extra stress on your family! Sad

I always forget george and Annie share a birthday! Happy 2 months to them! Cake

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julfin · 04/09/2016 20:48

Cookies - glad things are looking up. Hopefully he'll enjoy the new work more and you'll look back on this as a blessing.

Indians - sorry you've had a shit day. Hope you get some well deserved rest soon. It's such a tough time for everyone, it's not surprising that people need to let their hair down, but the menfolk need to appreciate that them going out and getting smashed with their mates just makes it harder for us.

Who was it that had a female partner? How is she doing? Is she being more helpful/supportive than lots of the menfolk are? Not trying to be sexist, just curious!

Well I'm going to bed now Smile

sundaysunday · 05/09/2016 04:56

Sorry about your dh's job cookies. Men tend to define themselves by what occupation they do more than women do so it's a big part of who they are to lose. Hope he gets things sorted soon.

Also sorry you've had a hard weekend Indians. What is with these men?! They are more trouble than the babies!

Been struggling with lack of sleep here the last few days. E has got muddled with night and day and now thinks 3-5am is playtime! And with the reflux (and now constipation from the meds) he's been very hard to settle. DH is a great help at weekends so I can catch up a bit on sleep but I miss out on spending time with them both when I'm sleeping.

6 weeks today Smile. Plans for this week include; a trip into town/aldi, perhaps the doctor's again to see about other reflux meds, food shopping, and getting the house sorted for weekend visitors. Anyone doing anything less mundane this week?

julfin · 05/09/2016 04:58

No late night shenanigans tonight?! We've just done lots of squirming, some bicycling and a nice big poo, and now we're having some milk to help us sleep Smile

Is anyone else's baby's tummy really massive? As in, Ethiopian orphan massive?

7w + 4 d

julfin · 05/09/2016 05:06

Ooh hello Sunday! Sorry you're not sleeping!

We've got the HV, Jasper's 8 week check, dinner out with a friend, the sling library, bumps and babies group, and tea with my Nct group who I haven't seen for ages. Not sure I'll manage the optional activities, but a busy week nevertheless.

I can hear the rain pitter-pattering. Hopefully that'll send Jasper to sleep. But basically he only sleeps when he has a nipple in his mouth Confused

sundaysunday · 05/09/2016 05:30

Busy week indeed julf! I'm waiting for the local baby groups to start up again once the schools are back. Not sure I'll be much good making small talk with new people unless I get more sleep! And looking forward to baby swimming sessions after 12 weeks.

Hope the poo/milk/rain combo gets jasper off nodding. No such luck here Sad

julfin · 05/09/2016 06:01

Why after 12 weeks? Why not after the 8 week check?