March 2016 - I can't think of a pithy title because I'm too sleep deprived :/

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Sorry, really couldn't think of something humorous!

Swear on formula DS takes 180-200ml per feed but I don't know if breastfed babies would need less?

DS is nearly 19 weeks and we haven't hit the four month regression yet ... touch wood.

Hi everyone! Lots to catch up on.

I'm quite excited to start weaning but in no rush. DS is four months this Wednesday. He's not bothered about food yet - his fingers are constantly in his mouth but he doesn't try putting toys or anything in there yet.

Sleep has gone back to normal after those 5 days of horror - now he's down at 6, up at roughly 10, 2 and 4. Up for day at 5.30. I'm trying to push his bedtime a little later to see if we can get a later start out of him but tbh I'm not hugely bothered - I can cope with three night wakings. He's a great napper during the day usually (touch wood). I'd like to believe those five days of bad sleep were the regression but sadly I think that was just the after effects of us going away for the weekend.

swear my DS takes anything between 80 and 150 ml of expressed milk. I think bfed babies at this age take 25oz of milk a day on average so if you divide this by number of feeds per day you should get a good guide.

So on the subject, DS who has happily been taking the odd bottle of expressed milk or occasionally formula since birth has suddenly started refusing the bottle This is very annoying as I'm meant to be going out for the day tomorrow! Anyone got any tips?

Depending on his mood C will take anything from 60 to 200ml of EBM if he's getting a bottle feed. When we were visiting family, there was one time where my mum gave him a 125ml bottle, then as soon as he saw me come back 10 minutes after he'd finished the bottle he took a full two boob feed straight away. He's a hungry little bugger when he wants to be!

Feeling a little better here, no more fever or anything, just tired and my boob still hurts. Doing my nails here while C is napping, I should have waited for DH to get home from work to do my toenails though, ow!

swear impressive centile climbing, E is EBF and I'm relieved she is staying on her line. I manually express whevever she goes a long stratch at night and get 60-90 though tend to freeze in portions of 120-150.

Like others here I plan to wean from 6 months, purees and equivalent finger food. Others in the NCT group started at dead on 4 months but I don't feel the need to start on the baby rice bandwagon. Can see DH giving her tastes earlier though - my stepkids are in their 20s so from a time when 3-4 month weaning was the norm.

doc I'm another one who had fun with 2 dogs and a baby in the rain this morning. I use pram but the wheels got really shitty so transfering baby in, keeping puppy (6mo lab cross) from barging past etc was a bit challenging. Naturally our internet food shop arrived at the same time, 15 mins early. It got a bit chaotic.

Hope the nap refusers give their mums a break this weekend.

We don't feed expressed milk often but E takes between 60 and 175 - even on consecutive nights with similar feeds during the day.

Okay thanks for the advice! Will wait to 6 mo and use a mix like you suggest. I know it's a faff but hate giving formula so keen to start as soon as she's ready. I know food doesn't replace milk for a long while though.

Haha dom they are driving - using battery operated double electric pumps with hands free bras! Yeah most of them had to go back to work between 8 and 12 weeks - totally shocking. They all noticed a drop in supply, so clearly simple biology tells you we are not meant to be away from babies that early! Just can't believe more people aren't angry about the lack of maternity leave

Well done swear!!! It is incredible to think you can keep a human being alive (and thriving) with just your body!!

Glad you're feeling a bit better now Tri.

Great news on the centile climbing Swear.

I'm going to start BLW from 6 months. I got in a right stress with ds1 when we started weaning because he flatly refused to be fed at all, wanted to do everything himself. He only ate tiny amounts and wasn't that bothered about the whole thing until he was about 8 months ish. So with ds2 I'm just going to follow his lead, no rush at all, he'll eat when he's ready. He turns 6 months on my birthday so he can join in my birthday dinner .

Ds2 has repenting started pooing during the night again. Repeatedly. I hope he grows out of it soon! Ds1 had a crap night too because he has chewed through both his dummies so had to go to bed without one last night. I'm not rushing to buy any more just yet because I'd quite like to get rid of them for good now! Dh slept on the sofa last night so he had a lovely uninterrupted sleep .

Well done Swear that's impressive centile climbing.

Ffaux pumping whilst driving! I'm a bit .

Glad the fever has passed Tri. Don't do too much though, you need to recover.

I've actually started working again (I was made redundant 2 weeks into maternity). It's only 4 hours on a sat and sun morning, but it's at least some money coming in until I go back properly.

19 weeks and no sleep regression here yet. Fingers crossed.

Kudos to you too Rhu, I'm dreading going back in September. I'm hoping I win the lottery before then so I won't have to slim chance as I don't even play

I thought I hadnt seen my debit card for a while. Had a little delve through the bin bags outside and found it stuck to a mouldy strawberry. I think I prefer babies to toddlers .

I'm going to wean at 6 months and do blw, no purees. I didn't bother doing purees with dd1 and she took to food really well. It's mostly laziness though as cba with the faff of making purees.

Crap nights sleep last two nights as at my mum's in Bristol and so new place for baby = frequent wakings. my mum's house is much hotter than mine and dd2 still has a cold. And I've had to get up with dd1 at 6am the last two mornings. Sigh.

My cold is getting worse and am starting to lose my voice. Great timing for 9 more days of shouting at looking after a toddler who is testing lots of boundaries at the moment!

Congrats on centile movement swear!

My DS has been referred to a pediatrician and I am a little bit gutted to be honest!

He was 11 days overdue and born on the 75th centile. He dropped to the 9th fairly early on and maintained it for a while, then dropped to the 2nd and maintained that but he has now dropped to the 0.4th and while he is maintaining that, he is rather long and on the 50th for that so they have to refer him.

My HV has said repeatedly that she is happy with his development, how alert and strong he is etc. and that it is just a matter of process but I am still upset and wondering if there is anything wrong

He is 16 weeks and weighs 11lb2 for context.

Marmite get better soon

I'm going to blw as well from six months. Trinpy my ds was just the same with weaning so we fell int blw out of my desperation and once we were into it it was so easy. E does look at me eating and puts toys in her mouth but we won't start until 6 months. She just doesn't need it yet.

Swear great weight gains! Well done you!

Dom well done for work as well, hats off to you. Ffaux are you going back? I can't remember? I'm really lucky this time to be able to take the year, we'll have to eat dust though but hey ho.

Dh went away yesterday with some mates and got back about 5pm. I managed a whole night with two of them alone so feel quite proud. Thankfully as well E remembered how to nap too! Had ds in my bed last night as a treat which he thinks is for him but really is for me love his night time cuddles. E was at the end of the bed and I went to sleep very happy to have my babies.

Sorry to hear that Pixie, is DS bfed or ff or mix? They might suggest you start topping him up with formula if he's EBF.

Teething has hit with a vengeance these last few days. I think that's why we had such an awful night last night. DS has not been too bad during the day but he's gnawing his own fingers off constantly. Been giving him cold teething rings and bonjela! I really hope we have a better night tonight but not holding out much hope! I wish dh would help a bit more at weekends ... Don't expect him to during the week when he has to be up early for work but it would be nice of him to get up once during the night at the weekend! He doesn't even wake up though when DS does, so I'd be waking anyway, then waking him up ... doesn't really seem worth it.

Oh Pixie that does sound stressful. I don't have any wisdom to share but here for handholding when is the appointment?

purple I go back last week of August, so in about 7 weeks a lot of it has been unpaid. Well done for surviving alone, that sounds like s lovely night!

Oh no me that sounds tough, not looking forward to teething. I feel a bit like that about my DH sometimes. He took her last Saturday but now he thinks that 's his good deed done for the month!

Ahh, Pixie, what a worry. I do think that placentas and digestive systems differ quite substantially in how babies are nourished. Both of mine started out high on the centiles (good placentas, if I do say so myself!) but then dropped down (75th to 25th, and 91st to just above 50th at present).

I suppose the worry now is that discrepancy between height and weight. Maybe they'll prescribe a higher calorie formula? Are you FF or BF?

Yay, teeth Me! We also have those water filled teethers and bonjela on standby!

My DH will pitch in with the baby but I do have to kind of hand him over and say "can you hold this, I'm off to..." But he's about to SAHD for two weeks so he'll be well trained in no time! I think it's difficult to ask sometimes. I've certainly found that easier this time around (and also found it easier to hear the baby wailing downstairs and trust that DH will be doing something! First time it made my skin crawl)

Pixie that is worrying for you. My dd was 5lb 12oz at birth and 52cm. She has gone from the 9th to the 25th centile and at the moment is following it but at 16 weeks last week she only weighed 12lb 7. I know the reason for referral for your ds will be the drop but I am hoping to reassure you that I have a smallish one too. She is now probably 54cm long. Also I didn't gain weight as a child and now I'm a very round unhealthy weight

Ffaux it sounds like you have done well to stay off this long with the US pressures. We are very lucky over here. Have you sorted your childcare, I can't remember?

Thankyou for your kind words

I should have said but was feeling a bit garbled. He is exclusively ff on anti-reflux milk. He previously suffered quite badly but doesn't so much now. Hasn't made any difference to his weight though.

ffaux I am waiting on a letter with the date, hopefully it should arrive next week.

That is exactly it DA if there is more than 2 centiles apart in height and weight then they are referred round here.

Teething already me ! Wishing you a good nights sleep.

dom after our earlier discussion on pumps you inspired me to dig out my manual one - I bought for on-the-go but never got around to trying. Anyway I got about the same output but was amazed by how much more comfortable it was, and also more efficient than my double electric (hospital grade!), even counting for this fact that I could only do one boob at a time!!

I feel so much less stressed now as it's so much easier to fit in quick pumping sessions as I can be more mobile and continue entertaining DD, as its much easier to set down for a minute to pick her up etc. Previously I was waiting for her naps to pump, but she only sleeps for 30 mins, and I always have other things to fit in so was getting quite stressed and losing pumping sessions. Anyway sorry for going on but cheers for that

pixie ah I hope you get the appointment soon and it can put your mind at rest. We had a lot of weight issues during the first 2 months and I know how stressful it is

purple yep had to have it booked almost a year ahead but have what they call an 'in home' daycare here, where a childminder looks after a limited number of kids in her own house but is still licensed etc. Her and her husband run it and limit it to about 7 kids, though they are licensed for 14. Cheaper than the big centers and more personal I think. Im a bit nervous about it but I guess I would feel like that wherever she was going. I'm so jealous you have a year off!! I would have had that in my old job back home

Pixie sympathy on the weight issues, both mine ended up back in hospital when they were very little because of weight loss, we were lucky that formula top ups sorted it for us. Hopefully they will see that he is alert and well and you will be sent back home feeling reassured and just slightly annoyed at the faff.

I'll be blw from 6 months, I loved it with ds so can't wait. C watches me eat very intently already so I don't think we will have any probs.

We have started teething as well, lots of jamming her hand onto the bottom gum and was generally irritable yesterday, Calpol sorted that out though.

I can't remember who was struggling with De Quervain's in their wrist but after 12 weeks of pain I finally went to the Dr, he was at a loss as to what the problem is so have been referred to a specialist. Its not constant pain and I've got very used to being careful what I do so its manageable but just very irritating after so long. Fx I wont have to wait too long for the appointment and that they will sort it!

We're teething here too, biting everything in sight. Dh can't seem to understand she's just bitey and keeps passing her back insisting she's hungry

Amazingly DS slept through last night thanks Calpol before bed and after my moan on here I spoke to DH and he agreed he had been somewhat lacking and did the 5.30 feed this morning so I could sleep in.

Pixie have they considered a milk allergy or intolerance? It often goes hand in hand with reflux. My friend's baby was very small, I think 9th percentile and was dropping, but has been doing really well since he was put on prescription formula.

We've had a wedding invitation through for October and DS isn't invited we didn't exclude children from our wedding although I sort of understand why people do it. My parents are happy to have him but it's far enough away that we will have to stay overnight and I'm just not sure I'm ready to leave him overnight yet. Maybe I'll feel differently by then, it's still a few months away after all. Wish we could just take him.

Ffaux settling them into childcare is hard I won't lie to you but ds did so well at his nursery and I really valued every minute with him as well. It worked for us. I think a plus for you is that when you settle dd she won't be in the middle of the separation anxiety period which at 10months my ds was and this made it so much harder.

MrsE it's me as well with De Quervains. Mine is still painful but like you not all the time but sometimes stupid things like ripping open an envelope can make me cry out. I also went back to the GP this week and he said I can have the cortisone injection but he only does the clinic for it every two weeks. Well with the wait list, his holiday, our holiday my appointment is 15th Sept He has given me ibuleve which does help a bit and told me to be careful with lifting the car seat etc though he did say he knew that wasn't going to be easy. It's my right hand too so as much as I try not to use it it's pretty impossible.

Fab comment from dh just now when I asked why he couldn't listen to want ds was trying to tell him. "Well I am looking after E too" Umm yes and you just returned from you one night two full days away when I had both of them. Idiot.

Sorry to hear that pixie, no advice but hand holding

Normal night here - 3 hours, feed, 1.5 hours, feed, 3 hours, feed, 3 hours, feed...up for the day at 5.30 but then back down til 7.30...now asleep again.

Off out today so am pumping some milk for DP. God knows whether DS will take it though. No idea why he's suddenly become a bottle refuser.

me are you sure he's not invited? We had an invitation to a friend's wedding when ds was a baby with no mention of him, told our friend we couldn't go as it was too soon to leave him overnight, and were met with surprise that we hadn't realised he was automatically included on the invite. Worth checking as your friends also might have just assumed you'd bring him?

Sorry to hear about the weight loss pixie, it must be worrying but hopefully seeing the consultant means you'll get it sorted.